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Title: Trump creates outrage in Iowa claiming that John McCain wasn't a war hero because he was a captured POW – and dodges questions about his own Vietnam War draft deferments
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Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... all-half-field-stays-home.html
Published: Jul 18, 2015
Author: David Martosko, US Political Editor
Post Date: 2015-07-18 13:59:06 by cranky
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Views: 64140
Comments: 201
Donald Trump escalated his feud with Sen. John McCain on Saturady in Iowa by suggesting only his capture and five years as a prisoner of war turned him into a 'war hero.' 'He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured,' Trump said on stage at the Family Leader Summit in Ames. McCain spent years in a Viet Cong prison after the plane he was flying was shot down over Hanoi in October 1967.He was tortured enough to produce permanent physical disabilities. Trump got student and medical deferments and never served in uniform. He told reporters after his speech that a bone spur in his foot led to the medical exemption from the draft. Asked which foot had disqualified him, he couldn't remember. 'You'll have to look it up,' Trump said dismissively. 'It's in the records.' Rick Perry, the former Texas governor who is running 10th in an average of national polls, immediately called for Trump to quit his presidential campaign. ANGRY: Trump attacked Sen. John McCain and said the only reason he is considered a war hero is his capture and imprisonment as a POW during the Vietnam War. NOT A HERO? Sen. John McCain spent more than five years in a North Vietnamese prison after his plane was shot down durign the Vietnam War WALKING WOUNDED: McCain's torture left him disfigured and permanently damaged 'I respect Sen. McCain because he volunteered to serve his country,' Perry said in a statement. 'I cannot say the same of Mr. Trump.' 'His comments have reached a new low in American politics. His attack on veterans make him unfit to be Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces, and he should immediately withdraw from the race for President.' Trump focued considerable rhetorical artillery on McCain Saturday, mocking his bona fides on military and veterans issues: 'He graduated last in his class at Annapolis,' he claimed. 'Well, second-to-last.' In a press conference following his speech, Trump backtracked a few inches about prisoners of war. 'If somebody's a prisoner, I would consider him a war hero,' he said. 'But her have lots of heroes who wersn't prisoners. The billionaire's tussle with McCain began after he drew a reported 15,000 people to a campaign event in Phoenix to talk about illegal immigration. McCain, a proponent of comprehensive immigration reform, called his audience 'crazies.' Trump responded that the GOP's 2008 presidential nominee was a 'dummy.' In an emailed statement to DailyMail.com, Trump said after his press conference: 'I am not a fan John McCain because he has done so little for our Veterans and he should know better than anybody what the Veterans need, especially in regards to the VA.' 'He was extremely disrespectful to the thousands upon thousands of people, many of whom happen to be his constituents, that came to listen to me speak about illegal immigration in Phoenix last week by calling them "crazies",' Trump carped. 'These were not "crazies" – these were great American citizens.' 'I have great respect for all those who serve in our military including those that weren’t captured and are also heroes,' he insisted. Republicans auditioned all day for Christian conservatives, parading their bona fides in the nations' first presidential primary state. But not everyone searching for votes showed up. The cattle-call brought nine of the Republican Party's 15 declared presidential candidates to a single stage, less than a day after Democrats did the same thing – with all five of their White House hopefuls – a two-hour drive to the east. The Christian-right sponsoring group, The Family Leader, attracted mostly the candidates from the conservative end of the GOP spectrum. Led by political kingmaker Bob Vander Plaats, the group wields outsize influence in the Hawkeye State whenever Republicans barnstorm through during the run-up to the quadrennial Iowa caucuses. The $10 billion man was otherwise a crowd favorite in Ames, Iowa, speaking about his religion before a group of Christian conservatives Donald Trump's childhood church was First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, Queens, New York City. He said he was in church just last week Anti-abortion politics were visible in Ames, Iowa on July 18, 2015 at the Family Leader summit, a gathering of Republican presidential candidates hosted Missing in Ames was the Republican front-runner Jeb Bush, the sometimes-moderate New Jersey governor Chris Christie and the usually moderate former New York governor George Pataki. Nowhere to be found were senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Rand Paul of Kentucky. Paul's libertarian brand of Republicanism, makes some religious conservatives wary. Carly Fiorina, the GOP's only female While House contestant, also didn't make the trip. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, the day's first candidate-speaker, wrapped up his time on stage in a Q&A with pollster Frank Luntz by asking if he could read aloud from a book. 'It's a Bible,' he said, drawing wild cheers from the audience. He read from the Gospel of Luke, chapter 12, verse 48: 'From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded' – explaining it as a parable about America's global primacy and its obligations to keep its people, and the world, safe. Rubio blasted the Obama administration's recent nuclear bargain with Iran, calling it 'a complete sham.' He also castigated the president for sidestepping the role of Islam in global terror. 'It's not radical Presbyterian terrorism,' he said. 'It's radical Islamic terrorism. ... We have to target them militarily in their safe havens.' Abortion politics were visible both outside and inside the event venue in Ames, Iowa. Sign-wavers pointed to right-wing outrage over a surreptitious video that showed a Planned Parenthood medical doctor describing how she tailored her abortion procedures in order to preserve fetal body parts for human biologics companies. Outrage over an undercover video sting of Planned Parenthood brought anti-abortion Iowa Rep. Steve King kicked off the day with anger over 'that in-quotes "doctor"' whom he said was killing 'babies that could be viable outside the womb. It is sickening to watch.' Seizing on the political moment as a springboard for new laws tightening abortion restrictions, Knig said: 'This is our chance.' Also in evidence was a lingering resentment over this month's stunning Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex weddings nationwide. 'Marriage = 1 [man] and 1 [woman],' a projected image declared above the stage as the crowd filed in, using icons to represent male and female. 
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#10. To: cranky, A.K. Stone, SOSO, Deckard, Gatlin (#0)
McCain is a war criminal who bombed civilians, not a war hero for being captured and I spit on his worthless Vietnam medals.
Then you and Trump spit on every American that was captured in WWI, WWII, the Korean War and Vietnam. I am sure you think that you all are real true blue patriots. I think that you are all a POS for spitting on these men and women that nobly served our country.
Not really, but McCain is a civilian bombing war criminal and his medals are spit worthy to me.
Wow, now I recognize where I met you before. You were the guy that was spitting on the Vietnam veterans as they returned home and calling them baby killers. You haven't changed a bit.
Mr. Dornan with his F-100 in 1957, with his name on the side. http://www.bobdornan.com/photo01.html B-1 Bob Dornan knows, McCain is a POS!
I wish they'd bring him back as a military correspondent on Fox News. He made every story more exciting, usually by saying something really wild.
I wish they'd bring him back as a military correspondent on Fox News. He's the kind of works based Catholic we need on the Supreme Court?
"Works"...are not deeds. They're mitzvot under Torah. Specifically, works are: first fruits tithes, regular tithes, shekel head tax, making a grain or meat peace offering, making a grain our meat goodwill offering, having a libation poured out to the Lord; salting grain and incense; washing cups and plates and utensils; taking and keeping a Nazirite vow. Those are the "works" to which Paul referred, that are unavailing. They are thoroughly distinguishable from "acts" or "deeds", required by Jesus, the performance or non- performance of which are requisites for acceptability by God. You cannot gain salvation by paying a shekel to the Temple and sactificing a flock of lambs and ten thousand rivers of oil. Those are works under the law, mitzvot, and they do not avail you. On the other hand, if you have, and you ignore the naked, the beggar, the hungry and homeless, if you turn up your nose and refuse to help, and condemn, then you have failed to do the deeds that Jesus required, and you have done deeds that will get you damned. Jesus said that as you treated the least of these, you shall be treated. Martin Luther and his followers completely failed to understand the meaning of mitzvot/works, and taught the ridiculous idea that what you DO is a "work", and that what you DO doesn't matter because Paul (not Jesus, JUST Paul, in only one or two places) said that works are nothing. Well, sacrifices and oil and libation and Temple Tax really IS all nothing - the Temple is gone. But what you DO, your DEEDS, ALWAYS mattered, and always will. Jesus said so. John said so. James said so. Peter said so. And Paul said so too, throughout what he wrote. The sentence or two referring to mitzvot under the law applied to just precisely that, which Luther and his ilk didn't even understand. Jesus judges men on their DEEDS. He repeated that dozens of time. Even if Paul DID mean "deeds" when he wrote "works" (he did not - "works" are mitzvot under the law, and nothing else. Deeds are not works, unless they are codified by the Torah - only negative one are: don't kill, for example), then Paul must be disregarded, for he was a man, and a mere man cannot in two sentences override pages and pages of direct statements by God Incarnate. Deeds-based Christians are the only real Christians. Christians who say that what you do does not matter are illiterate, blind and stubborn fools. Jesus spoke about that sort.
With all due respect, Jesus judges mens' heart.
You say Jesus judge's men's hearts. And he does. But JESUS SAID he judges men by their deeds. He included deeds of the heart along with deeds done with the hands, but he did not EXCLUDE deeds done with the hands when he ADDED deeds done in the heart. This is the great error: to think that deeds done with the hands are "works" and they don't count. Every line of Jesus, and all but two lines of Paul, ought to tell everybody that's not true. If it were, the path to Salvation would be broad and easy, and gate wide. But it's not. Jesus said so.
#133. To: Vicomte13 (#131)
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That's a tricky riddle. Jesus also said, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die." Deeds and works had better be backed up by unselfish motives and love of Christ. Or else they are empty gestures. The "deeds" and works of Believers are compelled and inspired by the Holy Spirit within the hearts of Believers.
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#15. To: Pericles, cranky, A.K. Stone, Deckard, Gatlin (#10)
McCain is...............not a war hero for being captured and I spit on his worthless Vietnam medals.
#61. To: SOSO (#15)
Then you and Trump spit on every American that was captured in WWI, WWII, the Korean War and Vietnam.
#63. To: Pericles (#61)
#71. To: SOSO, McCain is no hero (#63)
#89. To: Percy Misanthrope, Liberator, CZ82 (#71)
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#93. To: hondo68 (#89)
B-1 Bob Dornan knows...
#108. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#93)
B-1 Bob Dornan
#125. To: hondo68 (#108)
#127. To: Vicomte13 (#125)
Jesus judges men on their DEEDS.
#131. To: Liberator (#127)
Replies to Comment # 131. You say Jesus judge's men's hearts. And he does. But JESUS SAID he judges men by their deeds.
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