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Title: Trump creates outrage in Iowa claiming that John McCain wasn't a war hero because he was a captured POW – and dodges questions about his own Vietnam War draft deferments
Source: Daily Mail Online
URL Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art ... all-half-field-stays-home.html
Published: Jul 18, 2015
Author: David Martosko, US Political Editor
Post Date: 2015-07-18 13:59:06 by cranky
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Views: 54286
Comments: 201

  • Trump couldn't remember which foot had the bone spur that brought his medical deferment from the Vietnam draft
  • He blasted John McCain on stage in Iowa for calling his Phoenix audience 'crazies,' and denied he was a war hero because the North Cietnamese captured him
  • Trump had initially wowed the cattle-call crowd by talking about his religion for the first time in-depth
  • Rick Perry quickly called for Trump to quit his campaign and said he's unfit to be commander-in-chief
  • Trump clarified: 'I have great respect for all those who serve in our military including those that weren’t captured and are also heroes'
  • Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Carly Fiorina, George Pataki, Lindsey Graham and Rand Paul skipped the Christian conservative gathering in Iowa

Donald Trump escalated his feud with Sen. John McCain on Saturady in Iowa by suggesting only his capture and five years as a prisoner of war turned him into a 'war hero.'

'He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren't captured,' Trump said on stage at the Family Leader Summit in Ames.

McCain spent years in a Viet Cong prison after the plane he was flying was shot down over Hanoi in October 1967.He was tortured enough to produce permanent physical disabilities.

Trump got student and medical deferments and never served in uniform.

He told reporters after his speech that a bone spur in his foot led to the medical exemption from the draft. Asked which foot had disqualified him, he couldn't remember.

'You'll have to look it up,' Trump said dismissively. 'It's in the records.'

Rick Perry, the former Texas governor who is running 10th in an average of national polls, immediately called for Trump to quit his presidential campaign.

ANGRY: Trump attacked Sen. John McCain and said the only reason he is considered a war hero is his capture and imprisonment as a POW during the Vietnam War.

ANGRY: Trump attacked Sen. John McCain and said the only reason he is considered a war hero is his capture and imprisonment as a POW during the Vietnam War.

NOT A HERO? Sen. John McCain spent more than five years in a Hann

NOT A HERO? Sen. John McCain spent more than five years in a North Vietnamese prison after his plane was shot down durign the Vietnam War

WALKING WOUNDED: McCain's torture left him disfigured and permanently damaged

WALKING WOUNDED: McCain's torture left him disfigured and permanently damaged

'I respect Sen. McCain because he volunteered to serve his country,' Perry said in a statement. 'I cannot say the same of Mr. Trump.'

'His comments have reached a new low in American politics. His attack on veterans make him unfit to be Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. Armed Forces, and he should immediately withdraw from the race for President.'

Trump focued considerable rhetorical artillery on McCain Saturday, mocking his bona fides on military and veterans issues:

'He graduated last in his class at Annapolis,' he claimed. 'Well, second-to-last.'

In a press conference following his speech, Trump backtracked a few inches about prisoners of war.

'If somebody's a prisoner, I would consider him a war hero,' he said. 'But her have lots of heroes who wersn't prisoners.

The billionaire's tussle with McCain began after he drew a reported 15,000 people to a campaign event in Phoenix to talk about illegal immigration.

McCain, a proponent of comprehensive immigration reform, called his audience 'crazies.' Trump responded that the GOP's 2008 presidential nominee was a 'dummy.'

In an emailed statement to DailyMail.com, Trump said after his press conference: 'I am not a fan John McCain because he has done so little for our Veterans and he should know better than anybody what the Veterans need, especially in regards to the VA.'

'He was extremely disrespectful to the thousands upon thousands of people, many of whom happen to be his constituents, that came to listen to me speak about illegal immigration in Phoenix last week by calling them "crazies",' Trump carped.

'These were not "crazies" – these were great American citizens.'

'I have great respect for all those who serve in our military including those that weren’t captured and are also heroes,' he insisted.

Republicans auditioned all day for Christian conservatives, parading their bona fides in the nations' first presidential primary state. But not everyone searching for votes showed up.

The cattle-call brought nine of the Republican Party's 15 declared presidential candidates to a single stage, less than a day after Democrats did the same thing – with all five of their White House hopefuls – a two-hour drive to the east.

The Christian-right sponsoring group, The Family Leader, attracted mostly the candidates from the conservative end of the GOP spectrum.

Led by political kingmaker Bob Vander Plaats, the group wields outsize influence in the Hawkeye State whenever Republicans barnstorm through during the run-up to the quadrennial Iowa caucuses.

The $10 billion man was otherwise a crowd favorite in Ames, Iowa, speaking about his religion before a group of Christian conservatives

The $10 billion man was otherwise a crowd favorite in Ames, Iowa, speaking about his religion before a group of Christian conservatives

Donald Trump's childhood church was First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, Queens, New York City. He said he was in church just last week

Donald Trump's childhood church was First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, Queens, New York City. He said he was in church just last week

Anti-abortion politics were visible in Ames, Iowa on July 18, 2015 at the Family Leader summit, a gathering of Republican presidential candidates hosted

Anti-abortion politics were visible in Ames, Iowa on July 18, 2015 at the Family Leader summit, a gathering of Republican presidential candidates hosted

Missing in Ames was the Republican front-runner Jeb Bush, the sometimes-moderate New Jersey governor Chris Christie and the usually moderate former New York governor George Pataki.

Nowhere to be found were senators Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Rand Paul of Kentucky. Paul's libertarian brand of Republicanism, makes some religious conservatives wary.

Carly Fiorina, the GOP's only female While House contestant, also didn't make the trip.

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, the day's first candidate-speaker, wrapped up his time on stage in a Q&A with pollster Frank Luntz by asking if he could read aloud from a book.

'It's a Bible,' he said, drawing wild cheers from the audience.

He read from the Gospel of Luke, chapter 12, verse 48: 'From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded' – explaining it as a parable about America's global primacy and its obligations to keep its people, and the world, safe.

Rubio blasted the Obama administration's recent nuclear bargain with Iran, calling it 'a complete sham.'

He also castigated the president for sidestepping the role of Islam in global terror.

'It's not radical Presbyterian terrorism,' he said. 'It's radical Islamic terrorism. ... We have to target them militarily in their safe havens.'

Abortion politics were visible both outside and inside the event venue in Ames, Iowa.

Sign-wavers pointed to right-wing outrage over a surreptitious video that showed a Planned Parenthood medical doctor describing how she tailored her abortion procedures in order to preserve fetal body parts for human biologics companies.

Outrage over an undercover video sting of Planned Parenthood brought anti-abortion

Outrage over an undercover video sting of Planned Parenthood brought anti-abortion

Iowa Rep. Steve King kicked off the day with anger over 'that in-quotes "doctor"' whom he said was killing 'babies that could be viable outside the womb. It is sickening to watch.'

Seizing on the political moment as a springboard for new laws tightening abortion restrictions, Knig said: 'This is our chance.'

Also in evidence was a lingering resentment over this month's stunning Supreme Court decision legalizing same-sex weddings nationwide.

'Marriage = 1 [man] and 1 [woman],' a projected image declared above the stage as the crowd filed in, using icons to represent male and female. (9 images)

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#10. To: cranky, A.K. Stone, SOSO, Deckard, Gatlin (#0)

McCain is a war criminal who bombed civilians, not a war hero for being captured and I spit on his worthless Vietnam medals.

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#15. To: Pericles, cranky, A.K. Stone, Deckard, Gatlin (#10)

McCain is...............not a war hero for being captured and I spit on his worthless Vietnam medals.

Then you and Trump spit on every American that was captured in WWI, WWII, the Korean War and Vietnam. I am sure you think that you all are real true blue patriots. I think that you are all a POS for spitting on these men and women that nobly served our country.

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#61. To: SOSO (#15)

Then you and Trump spit on every American that was captured in WWI, WWII, the Korean War and Vietnam.

Not really, but McCain is a civilian bombing war criminal and his medals are spit worthy to me.

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#63. To: Pericles (#61)

Wow, now I recognize where I met you before. You were the guy that was spitting on the Vietnam veterans as they returned home and calling them baby killers. You haven't changed a bit.

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#71. To: SOSO, McCain is no hero (#63)

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#89. To: Percy Misanthrope, Liberator, CZ82 (#71) (Edited)

Mr. Dornan with his F-100 in 1957, with his name on the side.

http://www.bobdornan.com/photo01.html

B-1 Bob Dornan knows, McCain is a POS!

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Republicans Allege McCain Covered Up His Collaboration with the North Vietnamese While a POW

Allegations resurface that McCain made propaganda statements and tried to keep Viet Cong records about him classified.

AlterNet

September 20, 2008

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A 1992 video featuring a Republican senator, Republican congressman and top Capitol Hill staffers who worked on Vietnam prisoner of war and missing in action issues say John McCain collaborated with North Vietnamese while a POW, and then covered up that involvement to the detriment of POW/MIA families seeking access to classified Pentagon records about their own family members.

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The video raises probing questions about the 2008 Republican presidential nominee's war record, especially after McCain made his captivity a major part of his qualifications for the presidency at the Republican National Convention. In 2004, the GOP focused on Democratic nominee John Kerry's war record to criticize his candidacy.

To date, the video has been posted on a handful of blogs but has been ignored by the mainstream media. While it features Republican stalwarts on POW/MIA issues, it also suggests that McCain's war records at the Pentagon and in North Vietnam would reveal potentially very controversial details about the GOP's presidential candidate.

The nearly eight-minute video is posted on YouTube under "Vietnam Veterans Against McCain." It begins with the title, "1992 Senate Select Committee on POW/MIAs," and features ex-Sen. Bob Smith (R-NH), Rep. Robert Dornan (R-CA), senate staffers Tracy Usry, James Lucier, and military family members Lynn O'Shea, of the National Alliance of Families and retired Army Cpl. Bob Dumas, whose brother was a POW lost in the Korean War, and Joseph Douglass, Jr., author of Betrayed, about America's missing POWs. The video has no author credits.

The footage begins with Douglass, Usry, O'Shea and Smith all saying that McCain worked to kill legislation that would have opened the Pentagon's classified archive of POW/MIA files. "Many, many documents were held back for no reason," former Sen. Smith said. Dorman said legislation that passed the House with no opposing votes was single-handedly blocked in the Senate by McCain. "On the Senate side, we had one person standing in the way," Dornan said, referring to McCain.

Dumas then gave the reason why - the Pentagon's records would reveal McCain had collaborated with the Vietnamese. "He didn't want nobody to check his background because a lot of POWs who were with him in the camp said he was a collaborator with the enemy," Dumas said. "He gave the enemy information they wanted."

Lucier, identified as a former U.S. Senate Chief of Staff, said "we do know that when he was over there, he cooperated with Communist news services in giving interviews that were not flattering to the United States." Usry, identified as U.S. Senate Minority Staff former chief investigator, said "information shows that he made over 32 tapes of propaganda for the Vietnamese government."

Dornan said there were transcripts of other POWs reacting to McCain's false statements, saying, "Oh my God, is that Admiral McCain's son Is that the admiral's son? Is that Johnny, telling us that our principle targets are schools, orphanages, hospitals, temples, churches? That was Jane Fonda's line." Dornan said those transcripts are in war museums in North Vietnam, where McCain, as a senator, pressured the country not to release them or face opposition concerning normalization of relations with the United States.

"McCain could not have wanted those to turn up in the middle of a presidential race," the ex-congressman said. "He knows that. I know that. And a few other people know that. That's why he was against Bob Dole's legislation."

Dornan then offered another interesting explanation why McCain refused an offer by the North Vietnamese to be released. Dornan said those released first were collaborators, which would have ended McCain's military career and hurt the Navy, where his father commanded the Pacific fleet.

"Nobody takes that one step beyond that," Dornan said, speaking of McCain's refusal to be released. "If Admiral John McCain's son had accepted this princely status and come home in 1967, while others sat there for five years, what would the Navy have done with the son of an admiral who opted to get special treatment and come home? No Navy career. No House seat. No Senate seat. It would have been the end of his career."

Steven Rosenfeld is a Senior Fellow at AlterNet.org, where he reports on elections from a voting rights perspective. His books include Count My Vote: A Citizen's Guide to Voting (AlterNet Books, 2008), What Happened in Ohio: A Documentary Record of Theft and Fraud in the 2004 Election (The New Press, 2006), and Making History in Vermont: The Election of a Socialist to Congress (Hollowbrook Publishing, 1992). An award-winning journalist, he has been a staff reporter at National Public Radio, Monitor Radio, TomPaine.com, and at daily and weekly newspapers in Vermont.

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