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Title: Ron Paul Takes on Neocon: 'We've Got a Schizophrenic Foreign Policy'
Source: Lew Rockwell
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/07 ... ams/ron-paul-beats-cia-neocon/
Published: Jul 17, 2015
Author: Daniel McAdams
Post Date: 2015-07-17 08:19:38 by Deckard
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Views: 1037
Comments: 8

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We’re with the Iranians because we are both fighting ISIS but we’re against the Iranians because they are on the side of Assad. That is why RPI Chairman Ron Paul described our foreign policy as “schizophrenic” in a Newsmax debate on the Iran deal.

On the Iran talks, Dr. Paul reminded the viewers that Reagan believed it was important to talk to the Soviets, a regime that had killed far more people than has the Iranians, and to look for ways to reduce weapons proliferation. So why not talk to Iran?

Former CIA operative Fred Fleitz, now head of policy at the neoconservative Center for Security Policy, unsurprisingly disagreed, stating that he has no idea what Ron Paul is talking about. The Iran deal is a “catastrophe” that “could lead to a huge regional war in the Middle East.” He’s all for talking to Iran, he claimed, but only to get a good deal.

When Dr. Paul pointed out that Iran has never been found in violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty, Fleitz (mistakenly) blurted out “that’s not true!”

Good fireworks and a great lesson from Dr. Paul on how the military-industrial complex gins up global conflict because it’s good for business. He might have added that the military-industrial complex is also very generous with “analysts” like Fred Fleitz who are paid well to spread lies and foment conflict while posing as experts.

Watch as a few sparks fly in this very interesting interview available here.

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#1. To: Deckard (#0)

So why not talk to Iran?

Because they are Muslim. Muslims by definition are liars and murderers.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-17   8:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Deckard (#0)

What Paul forgets is that the Soviets ALREADY had nukes . Dr Paul has this fanciful notion like his old man that the US can retreat from the world and pull up the drawbridge in front of fortress America. What he forgets is that the world tends to drag us into their affairs whether we like it or not .

It is better to stop the Iranian effort to obtain nukes before it happens . That is the primary consideration . Whether it happens through negotiations ,or a bunker buster is secondary to the fact that they cannot be allowed to get the bomb.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-07-17   8:57:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#0)

our foreign policy as “schizophrenic”

That I agree with 100%.

No clear cut path. We support crazy moslems against Christians just because they are backed by Russia or the former USSR. These same moslems use our training and our weapons against us. We support Israel over moslems which is fine but then we can not understand why moslems use our training and weapons against us and Israel.

You can not deny Ron Paul is 100% correct.

Justified  posted on  2015-07-17   9:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Deckard (#0)

NewsMax uses the horrible Ooyala video player that won't embed here at LF.

Fortunately, they uploaded it to their YouTube channel too, though it took some searching to locate it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-17   9:37:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard (#0)

Dr. Paul pointed out that Iran has never been found in violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty

UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon said the "onus" was on Iran. Since there is a history of non-cooperation on IAEA inspections the IAEA is unable to confirm that all nuclear material is in peaceful activities. They did not even declare they had a program until 2003 when a dissedent group outed them and revealed that Iran had 2 facilites ; a uranium enrichment plant and research lab at Natanz and a heavy water production plant in Arak. It was later revealed that they were doing nuclear activity at their Parchin military base near Tehran. 2005, IAEA found Iran in noncompliance with the NPT Safeguards Agreement and decided to refer Tehran to the U.N. Security Council for further action. The decision followed Iran’s repeated failure to fully report its nuclear activities. 2006 they broke IAEA seals at their Natanz enrichment facility and resumed activites there . Again The IAEA voted to report Iran to the U.N. Security Council for its non-compliance with its NPT Safeguards Agreement obligations. 2009 The emperor, French President Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Brown told a press conference that Iran had a covert fuel enrichment plant near Qom. Iran decided to reveal it to the IAEA after they learned they were outed . A year later they reached the 20% enrichment threshold . 2011 An IAEA report claimed that Iran had continued nuclear weaponization work since 2003 and that Iran had a secret project to enrich uranium . 2012 The IAEA confirmed that Iran had ANOTHER secret operation at Fordow 2013 The IAEA had talks with Tehran because they suspected that Iran was working on nuclear triggers .

It goes on and on. So on what technical pretext does he say that they have never violated NPT ?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-07-17   10:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: tomder55 (#5)

It goes on and on. So on what technical pretext does he say that they have never violated NPT ?

Would you please inform the forum when you get an answer?

Kluane  posted on  2015-07-17   12:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: tomder55 (#5)

So on what technical pretext does he say that they have never violated NPT ?

They were never declared formally to be in violation. Accused but not convicted, so to speak. But all the jurors just happen to want to cut big business deals with the accused so...

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-17   12:53:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: tomder55 (#2)

Dr Paul has this fanciful notion like his old man that the US can retreat from the world and pull up the drawbridge in front of fortress America.

A fortress needs a moat, the liberaltarians want open borders. They are in lock step with the ruling class on that.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-07-17   17:53:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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