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Title: Donald Trump: Peter Pan in Midlife [horoscope]
Source: ErinSullivan.com
URL Source: http://www.erinsullivan.com/article ... gy/104-donald-trump-astrology#
Published: Jul 7, 2001
Author: Erin Sullivan
Post Date: 2015-07-16 11:57:11 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 2391
Comments: 13

Donald Trump AstrologyEvery fourteen years, Donald Trump considers settling down. In 1987 he made a pass at the Oval Office and by Election Day 2001, he will have flirted with it again. Mind you, this attempt at settling down has little to do with actually being the president, but more to do with raising funds as a presidential candidate can. Indeed, he will be able to reap many rewards from dallying at the threshold of the White House, primarily acquiring yet more virtual money.

There is potential for everyone to find their own shadow in Donald Trump. It isn't him, the Donald-at-home, that invites projection. It is his image that is loved or hated. He has created an IMAX screen on which the general public might project their own movie. He's a legend in his own mind.

A Fire-Air Chart

What makes this man so periodically enormous, yet constantly in view? The fuel that propels Trump is a combination of fire and air - literally, heat and talk. All but three of his planets are in fire or air signs. What gives Trump his ability to harness these elementsl and create an image of wealth and largesse, allowing him to play in the sandbox with the bigger boys? Fate, largely, but time, circumstances and personality have aided this man in his life-play.

Trump has created a cult of personality that is crafted in perfect response and accord with the grosser material values of modern America. He is the exemplar of the Great White American Male Capitalist Iconoclast. He is a rebel and a trickster, where his eccentricities are portrayed as desirable assets the amusing boy, the clever player.

Building an Empire with Venus and Saturn

Astrologically, Venus, the dual goddess of love and wealth, is arm in arm with Saturn, the dual god both of success and penury, in Trump’s chart. This combination is the leading factor underlying his monument building his creation of huge, lavish eponymous structures. His propensity for grandiose baroque environments is a reflection of his own interior life - inflated, ostentatious and hugely expensive. His need to monumentalize and immortalize his image underlies his apparently carefree lifestyle.

There is nothing carefree about Donald Trump. Venus and Saturn conjunct in the sign Cancer hide a secret side to him, one that is vulnerable to emotional attack (Venus in Cancer) and fearful of criticism (Saturn), all the while inviting it as a stimulant. His need for control (Saturn) limits his ability to experience and express feelings (Venus), thus, he is a man of ideas and action, with instincts that are raw and primitive, more like a predatory animal than new age man.

It is that same aspect of Saturn and Venus that describes his real feelings about people: when he is finished with a person, project or idea, he discards it as quickly as he courted it. When the usefulness of something (Saturn) is over, so is that something.

Donald Trump's pursuit both of love and money is legendary—but the prime motivation behind that search is one of fear—fear of not getting or deserving either (Saturn). That he surrounds himself with artifacts and artifice reflects his eternal boy, longing for approval and a loving hug from mommy. That his surrogate mothers are all animate dolls—beauty queens and models—is a testimony to more monument building.

Emperor Trump

Trump has the horoscope of a Roman emperor. Having Leo Rising with Mars in the First House he is aware of the roles that are played out on the modern stage. Sensitive to appearances, his is largely a public face, but one in which he genuinely believes. There is little in the way of phoneyness in his horoscope, which means he really believes in who he appears to be! His story is the story of Narcissus, the beautiful boy who fell in love with his image in the pond. To Donald, all the world is a pool in which he might see himself reflected.

A Fluid Public Image

Trump sees life as an adventure in transformation, adaption and ability to be fluid. Without his Moon in Sagittarius opposite to Uranus, he would not be as immensely fortunate, or so emotionally able to disengage (Uranus) from circumstances.

Even in the throes of bankruptcy, his self-assigned role was to come out on top and embark on yet another adventure, regardless of the individuals in the wings. His resurrection was of biblical proportion. It is unusual to enhance one's image by being a major loser. His spectacular downfall added to his glamorous image by dint of his reclaiming his borrowing power. By being so deeply unable to pay his debts, he had more power over his creditors than they over him!

Trump is a player, a boy who feels threatened if he is not free to take extreme risks and bolt when he feels the pressure of responsibility to actual people. There is a part of Trump that has no concern for others—no real concern for the human dilemma, because he earnestly and sincerely believes in the game of life, not the purpose of life.

President Trump?

It is very unlikely that Trump will see the White House as home—in fact, it is highly unlikely that he wants it. He would loathe being the president of the United States. It would require innate characteristics that he simply doesn't have. Mind you, if he could be president, but have an attendant or a V.P. who would do all the gruntwork and be present for the sheer, boring, bureaucratic labor of the job, lose sleep for him and care on his behalf, then maybe. But, no, he would not be free to move quickly, play hard, and enjoy his remarkably secretive life.

His real claim to power is that he exemplifies the epitome of modern American values. He is a living, breathing icon to the credo that the power of money can create anything, and destroy anything. You can be a presidential candidate if you have enough money. Money can buy perfection, impeccable appearances, lavish surroundings, power, amusement, toys, love, or at least seduction, and it certainly buys Donald a lot of attention—just what he needs so very much!

In times of social chaos, archetypal figures like Donald Trump emerge to show the collective just what their culture has bred. The fact is that the detached, unemotional game of shifting finances fits his nature better than the presidency does.


Poster Comment:

It seems the astrologist was correct. Every 14 years, Trump runs for prez. So we have to give credit here for a rare accurate astrology prediction.(1 image)

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

My prediction? Trump wins first off some states. This scares the shit out of everyone including Trump. Trump looks for an exit the way Perot looked for an exit in a way Trump can say he was doing the GOP a favor because they were begging him or some such.

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-16   12:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pericles (#1) (Edited)

My prediction? Trump wins first off some states.

Trump is flavor-of-the-month, a big name in a large field. But it is the slow news summer season so he only needs to make a few headlines to do well in polling so early.

I think Trumpmania will be over by the second or third debate. Perhaps before AKA can snatch up the www.donaldsflame.com and www.Trumporama.com domain names.

I still gotta give the astrologer credit but even a broken clock...

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-16   12:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative, Pericles (#2) (Edited)

Why, in every picture of Trump I can ever remember seeing,
does he look like - under the desk - someone has his
toes in a vise?

Maybe I'm absent- minded, but I can't remember a photograph
of the man actually smiling .

Please post smiling pictures.

Because I'd rather have a businessman as president than
a politician.

EDIT:

Toes in a vise:

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-07-16   13:27:20 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Chuck_Wagon (#3)

Drop him an email, he'll probably mail you some smiling glossies.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-16   13:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Chuck_Wagon (#3)

Why, in every picture of Trump I can ever remember seeing, does he look like - under the desk - someone has his toes in a vise?

Maybe he's constipated.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-07-16   13:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Chuck_Wagon (#3)

Please post smiling pictures.

https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVjvz8adVdqIAtw8nnIlQ?p=donald+trump&fr=yhs-mozilla-004&fr2=piv-web&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-004

Kluane  posted on  2015-07-16   14:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#0)

It seems the astrologist was correct. Every 14 years, Trump runs for prez.

Presidential elections come every 4 years. !4 is not a number that is divisible by 4, 16 and 12 are. I figured astrologers should have some concept of how time works, this one can't even get that right. And there was no presidential election in 2001.

RINO's are using astrologers now. That must be where you guys have figured out that the secret to electoral success for the GOP is to import democrat voters.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-07-16   14:47:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: nativist nationalist (#7)

Presidential elections come every 4 years. !4 is not a number that is divisible by 4, 16 and 12 are.

I hate to point it out but presidential campaigns are hatched following the off-year election cycle.

Of course, the numbers are ruined somewhat by Trump's abortive little run in 2012 which consisted of a lot of bloviating, then a quick flight on a Trump corporate copter to New Hampshire, meeting about 50 reporters with questions, then a flight back to NYC with Trump not being heard from again. There was a giant sucking sound not heard since Fred Thompson napped his way through the Iowa state fair on his golf cart.

I'm not sure why other people don't seem to be able to recall these details about Trump. It's all public info.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-16   15:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#8)

"I'm not sure why other people don't seem to be able to recall these details about Trump."

What you mean is, "I'm really disappointed that other people don't seem to be able to recall these details about Trump."

Yeah, well, you know what they say:

The truth is, people want to move on. Trump is running today. If Trump had an "abortive little run in 2012", people couldn't care less.

Why you think this insignificant information is significant is beyond me.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-16   19:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: misterwhite (#9)

The truth is, people want to move on. Trump is running today. If Trump had an "abortive little run in 2012", people couldn't care less.

Some people do. Those who want to ram Trump down everybody's throat before a a single primary has been held.

Trump has been a perennial candidate for decades. I think it is worth noting.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-16   19:21:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative (#10)

"Those who want to ram Trump down everybody's throat before a a single primary has been held."

No one's doing that. We're having fun. We're enjoying the left (and the establishment Republicans) having a conniption fit.

And here you are, raining on our parade by bringing up these pissant little facts.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-07-16   19:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: misterwhite (#11)

Get used to it. Trump is just the wingnuts throwing themselves a parade. Trump will never be the GOP nominee.

I think he knows this and is likely keeping his options open for an indy run like Perot for that reason. And like Perot, he'll be helping to elect a Xlinton to the WH.

Trump looks less and less like Peter Pan but more and more like the Pied Piper.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-16   19:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: misterwhite (#11)

No one's doing that. We're having fun. We're enjoying the left (and the establishment Republicans) having a conniption fit.

He's also got the dope smoking liberaltarians in a knot. Trump does not seem to conform to norms of their free thinking anarchist orthodoxy.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-07-17   17:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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