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Title: IMF stuns Europe with call for massive Greek debt relief
Source: UK Telegraph
URL Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ ... massive-Greek-debt-relief.html
Published: Jul 14, 2015
Author: Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Post Date: 2015-07-14 19:18:54 by cranky
Keywords: None
Views: 2434
Comments: 32

The International Monetary Fund has set off a political earthquake in Europe, warning that Greece may need a full moratorium on debt payments for 30 years and perhaps even long-term subsidies to claw its way out of depression.

"The dramatic deterioration in debt sustainability points to the need for debt relief on a scale that would need to go well beyond what has been under consideration to date,” said the IMF in a confidential report.

Greek public debt will spiral to 200pc of GDP over the next two years, compared to 177pc in an earlier report on debt sustainability issued just two weeks ago.

The findings are explosive. The document amounts to a warning that the IMF will not take part in any EMU-led rescue package for Greece unless Germany and the EMU creditor powers finally agree to sweeping debt relief.

This vastly complicates the rescue deal agreed by eurozone leaders in marathon talks over the weekend since Germany insists that the bail-out cannot go ahead unless the IMF is involved.

The creditors were aware of the IMF’s report as early as Sunday, yet choose to sweep it under rug. Extracts were leaked to Reuters on Tuesday, forcing the matter into the open.

IMF managing director Christine Lagarde

The EMU summit statement vaguely mentions “possible longer grace and payment periods”, but only at later date, and only if Greece is deemed to have complied with all the demands. Germany has ruled out a debt “haircut” altogether, claiming that it would violate Article 125 of the Lisbon Treaty.

The IMF said there is no conceivable chance that Greece will be able to tap private capital markets in the foreseeable future, leaving the country entirely dependent on rescue funding.

It claimed that capital controls and the shutdown of the Greek banking system had entirely changed the picture for debt dynamics, an implicit criticism of both the Greek government and the eurozone authorities for letting the political dispute get out of hand.

The decision by the European Central Bank to force the closure of the Greek banks two weeks ago by freezing emergency liquidity assistance (ELA), appears to have cost European taxpayers very large sums of money..

The IMF said the Europeans will either have to offer a “deep upfront haircut” or slash the debt burden by stretching maturities and presumably by lowering interest costs.

“There would have to be a very dramatic extension with grace periods of, say, 30 years on the entire stock of European debt,” it said.

Debt forgiveness alone would not be enough. There would also have to be “new assistance”, and perhaps “explicit annual transfers to the Greek budget”.

This is the worst nightmare of the northern creditor states. The term "Transfer Union" has been dirty in the German political debate ever since the debt crisis erupted in 2010.

The underlying message of the report is that Greece is in such deep trouble that it cannot withstand further austerity cuts. This is hard to square with the latest demands by EMU creditors for pension cuts, tax rises, and fiscal tighting equal to 2pc of GDP by next year.

Nobel economist Paul Krugman said the cuts are macro-economic "madness" in these circumstances.

Yanis Varoufakis, the former Greek finance minister, told the New Statesman that whenever he tried to discuss the economic rationale for the policies enforced upon Greece, he was met with blank stares. "It is as if you haven’t spoken. You might as well have sung the Swedish national anthem – you’d have got the same reply.”

Unless there is a change of course, Greece's debt ratio will still be 170pc of GDP by the time the current framework expires in 2022. Even this assumes that there is no global downturn, and that everything goes to plan. The figure is up from 142pc two weeks ago.

The IMF’s report raises as many questions as it answers. Almost no economist would accept that two weeks of capital controls could alone raise the debt ratio by 28 percentage points of GDP a full seven years later.

The backdrop to this sudden shift in position is almost certainly political. It follows an intense push for debt relief over recent days by the US Treasury, the dominant voice on the IMF Board in Washington.

The IMF’s report issued in early July was savaged by one bail-out veteran. Ashoka Mody, the former chief of Ireland’s IMF rescue, said the original findings were “fictitious” and failed to recognize the full gravity of the debt-deflation crisis in Greece.

It appears that powerful voices in global capitals and on the IMF board have since demanded that the Fund go back to the drawing board.

Its conclusions validate what Greece’s Syriza government has been saying all along. The debt cannot be repaid. Any formula that fails to recognize this merely stores up an even bigger crisis down the road. `

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#3. To: Pericles (#0)

Its conclusions validate what Greece’s Syriza government has been saying all along. The debt cannot be repaid. Any formula that fails to recognize this merely stores up an even bigger crisis down the road. `

Well there you go, asswipe, you now have a solid reason for your philosophy that justifies Greece having a good reason not to repay its debt and to even be given more of OPM that it will not be able to repay. This must warm the cockles of your huge, compassionate progressive heart. After all it's only just.

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#5. To: SOSO (#3)

Its conclusions validate what Greece’s Syriza government has been saying all along. The debt cannot be repaid. Any formula that fails to recognize this merely stores up an even bigger crisis down the road. `

Well there you go, asswipe, you now have a solid reason for your philosophy that justifies Greece having a good reason not to repay its debt and to even be given more of OPM that it will not be able to repay.

This must warm the cockles of your huge, compassionate progressive heart. After all it's only just.

Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour, already told us the usury of debt is a grave sin.

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-15   1:11:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pericles (#5)

Jesus Christ, our Lord and Saviour, already told us the usury of debt is a grave sin.

Again you are amazingly wrong.

First, the Bible says nothing about usury which is defined as:

u·su·ry - noun

the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.

Second, the Bible only states that you may not collect interest on loans that you make to the POOR. It says nothing about lending to a country and it says nothing about not collecting the principal of the loan made to the poor or any other entity.

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-15   2:05:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SOSO (#7) (Edited)

First, the Bible says nothing about usury which is defined as:

u·su·ry - noun

the illegal action or practice of lending money at unreasonably high rates of interest.

Second, the Bible only states that you may not collect interest on loans that you make to the POOR. It says nothing about lending to a country and it says nothing about not collecting the principal of the loan made to the poor or any other entity.

Usury's modern altered meaning is "high interest".

But usury's original and only meaning was DEBT INTEREST.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/usury

Full Definition of USURY

1 archaic : interest

Every religion I can think of declares interest on loans a sin (Hindus, Pagans, Buddhists, Abrahamic religions).

Psalm 15:5—He that putteth not out his money on interest, nor taketh a bribe against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be moved.

Exodus 22:24 (25)—If thou lend money to any of My people, even to the poor with thee, thou shalt not be to him as a creditor; neither shall ye lay upon him interest.

"…Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow. Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?"

—Luke 19:22-23

"Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you."

—Matthew 5:42

Pericles  posted on  2015-07-15   2:29:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Pericles (#8)

Every religion I can think of declares interest on loans a sin

Yo, sh*t for brains, I didn't despute that.

Yet you still obfuscate about the repayment of principal. That doesn't count in your world?

SOSO  posted on  2015-07-15   11:24:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: SOSO, Vicomte13 (#10)

Yet you still obfuscate about the repayment of principal. That doesn't count in your world?

No, I did not. You are having arguments with spiders in your head. I stated Greece, per God's law is only responsible for the principal - I wrote a whole thing on it here. Vicomte chimed in and said principal going back only 6 years. The 7th sabbath year allows for the forgiveness of debt and I did not go that far.

People like you, SOSO are why I distance myself from the online American so called conservative movement.

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