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Title: DONALD TRUMP: ABOLISH GUN FREE ZONES ON MILITARY BASES
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern ... -free-zones-on-military-bases/
Published: Jul 10, 2015
Author: AWR HAWKINS
Post Date: 2015-07-10 02:01:49 by out damned spot
Keywords: Trump, guns, military
Views: 4373
Comments: 34

Donald Trump says that if elected president, he will abolish the gun free zones currently imposed on U.S. troops by “[mandating] that soldiers remain armed and on alert at our military bases.”

In an interview with Ammoland he said: “President Clinton never should have passed a ban on soldiers being able to protect themselves on bases. America’s Armed Forces will be armed.”

Trump went on to decry gun free zones on military bases as a product of “political correctness” and said removing those zones “will… [enable soldiers] to defend themselves against terrorists.” He added, “Our brave soldiers should not be at risk because of policy created by civilian leadership.”

Trump’s opposition to military gun free zones is in line with his opposition to other gun control measures currently being pushed by gun control proponents like President Obama, Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), Gabby Giffords, and Sandy Hook Promise. Chief among these is his opposition to expanding background checks.

Trump explicitly stated that he does “not support expanding background checks” because our current background check system proves such checks do not work.

He added:

They make it more difficult for law abiding citizens to acquire firearms while consistently failing to stop criminals from getting guns. We should re-examine our policy to make sure that these prohibitions do not impede law abiding citizens from exercising their Second Amendment rights

Breitbart News has previously reported that the most prominent of public attackers over the last 15 years all passed background checks to acquire the guns they used to commit their crimes. These attackers include Dylann Roof (Charleston), Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi (Garland), Jared and Amanda Miller (Las Vegas), Elliot Rodger (Santa Barabara), Ivan Lopez (Fort Hood 2014), Darion Marcus Aguilar (Maryland mall), Karl Halverson Pierson (Arapahoe High School), Paul Ciancia (LAX), Andrew John Engeldinger (Minneapolis), Aaron Alexis (DC Navy Yard), Tennis Melvin Maynard (West Virginia), Wade Michael Page (Sinkh Temple), James Holmes (Aurora theater), Jared Loughner (Tucson), Nidal Hasan (Fort Hood 2009), Jiverly Wong (Binghamton), Seung-Hui Cho (Virginia Tech), Naveed Haq (Seattle), and Mark Barton (Atlanta).

Background checks proved impotent to prevent any of these attackers from carrying out their heinous deeds but served well to make it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to get the guns they need for self-defense.

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#1. To: out damned spot (#0)

He's right.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-07-10   10:09:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#1)

He's right.

He's pandering to the GOP base voters, nothing more.

Trump was always quite pro-abortion and largely anti-gun, as are most New Yorkers. Only when trying to campaign for the GOP nomination has he suddenly realized how pro-life and pro-gun he is.

I'm not sure the military wants or needs to have all the personnel on bases fully armed at all times. This sounds like Trump shooting from the hip.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-10   11:54:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

Trump was always quite pro-abortion and largely anti-gun, as are most New Yorkers. Only when trying to campaign for the GOP nomination has he suddenly realized how pro-life and pro-gun he is.

Trump changed his mind on abortion in the early 2000s, and has been consistent on the matter since then. Same as me.

I care as much about guns as I do gays: not at all. Guns and gays are fetish issues of crazies.

I don't care what people do, as long as they don't do it in the street and disturb the horses.

I don't care how people have sex, or with whom. Never did. Still don't. And I don't care how many guns people stock, or carry around with them.

I care if people have chemical or biological weapons, or put out landmines, or have Stinger missiles or grenades or nukes. Regular guns? Don't care.

I care if people pull guns or kill people. Then I care. What I care about is the crime, not the gun.

I do not believe that the Second Amendment is the vouchsafe of the rest of the Constitution, because I look at the long train of usurpations and abuses by local, state and federal government in the United States, and I see that the only time that Americans actually pulled out their guns and started seriously shooting at government officials was to defend slavery. And I note that they failed and the region of the country that did it was wrecked so badly that, when faced with desegregation, no matter how furiously angry they were, they never did it again.

I do not believe that the will to fight exists in Americans sufficient to ever actually take up arms against the government. So it's all just theoretical nonsense, to me, this "rise up against tyranny" business. Americans are not going to do that.

Guns are to protect yourself against crime, to kill yourself with when you get depressed, to go commit crimes, to hunt animals and to shoot at targets and think about one or more of the above. Oh, and to spend a lot of money on buying and keeping.

I don't want to bother people with that fetish. Let them be. It doesn't threaten ME unless they start brandishing the weapons. Then, of course, I have the right to shoot them dead on the spot, in self defense. So do the police.

So, what's my policy on gun control? I don't believe in it, really. I don't care enough about the issue to spend a penny of political capital on it, but it's a horse I'll gladly trade to get what I want on something if I care about.

If I could outlaw abortion and impose a fair taxation structure by striking down all gun laws, I'd do it. If I could outlaw abortion and impose fair taxation by confiscating all guns, I'd do that too. I don't care, and therefore, I am willing to make political deals on that subject, in order to get what's important.

If you need me to believe in your cause, whether you're a gun-grabber or a gun-worshipper, then I'm not your man, because your fear of or fetish for guns is silly. But, if you want a steady vote for either position, then give me what I want on abortion.

It's called quid-pro-quo. You don't have to believe that abortion is murder. You can actually think it ought to be a right. As long as you'll unwaveringly vote to outlaw it, I'll join you in voting for, or against, guns, depending on what you need.

Left alone to my opinions, abortion is murder and guns are mere tools. All anybody can do with a gun is kill me and send me to God, and then he's bought himself two world's of hurt but I'll be fine.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-07-10 14:25:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#2)

He's pandering to the GOP base voters, nothing more.

OR, maybe he means what he sez. IMO, the worst REAL pandering I've seen is out of the mouths of Jeb Bush, Perry, Christie, and Rubio.

That Trump is force-feeding several unmentioned, verboten crucial subjects that GOP bobbleheads believe don't need to be addressed is the best, most constructive political carpet-bombing I've seen...maybe in my lifetime.

How much longer are the establishment Republican going to keep on pretending all a post-0blabla "Fundamentally Changed" Amerika needs is a simple tweak here and there?

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-10 15:27:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative, sneakypete, GarySpFc, CZ82 (#2)

I'm not sure the military wants or needs to have all the personnel on bases fully armed at all times.

It would never happen unless the military installation was under direct attack. However I advocated we go back to battalions or companies have round the clock armed staff duty officers and NCOs.

Such is still controlled by military discipline. The duty personnel sign out the weapon, and ammo. As the threat increases the duty NCO becomes the Sergeant of the guard and they establish the armed guard force within general orders.

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