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Title: nolu chan contends an amendment to repeal the 2nd Amdt could be passed
Source: LF
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Published: Jul 9, 2015
Author: tpaine
Post Date: 2015-07-09 10:39:45 by tpaine
Keywords: None
Views: 83233
Comments: 255

The Congress proposes, and three-fourths of the states ratify the following amendment

AMENDMENT 28.

Section 1. The second article of amendment is hereby repealed.

Section 2. The individual right to keep and bear, buy, make, and use arms is limited to .22 caliber handguns only.

Section 3. All non-conforming guns must be surrendered to government authorities or destroyed within 30 days of ratification of this amendment.

Section 4. The Congress shall have the power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.


Poster Comment: During a discussion with Nolu Chan, he asserted that an amendment repealing the 2nd could be ratified, and become a valid part of our Constitution. I contend such an amendment would be unconstitutional. Comments?

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#3. To: tpaine (#0)

During a discussion with Nolu Chan, he asserted that an amendment repealing the 2nd could be ratified, and become a valid part of our Constitution. I contend such an amendment would be unconstitutional. Comments?

Nolu Chan is legally correct. Through the amendment process the Constitution can be amended to say anything, except removing equal representation in the Senate. THAT requires unanimity of the states.

The Constitution could be amended to require the sacrifice of first-born children. And if the sufficient majorities were found to vote for that, it would be "constitutional".

Of course, then treason, and seeking the overthrow and destruction of the Constitution, and supporting foreign invasion and annihilation of the American government, would be the only morally correct thing to do.

The Constitution does not guarantee MORAL content. The people have to do that. If the people become depraved and enact depraved laws, then "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed". America was always depraved. First there was slavery, then there was Indian genocide and segregation. Those things ended, but now we have abortion and the glorification of buggery.

Most people think that those evils - slavery, segregation, abortion, gay marriage - are "sufferable evils" and don't rebel. And that would be the case with the Second Amendment abolition also, were it to pass. (Truth is, it could not pass in the current environment).

Mandatory sacrifice of firstborn children would be bad enough to justify treason, and would swiftly result in its outbreak.

Traitors who win are called "Founding Fathers" of the new order they usher in.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-07-09   10:49:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13, tomder 55, gatlin (#3)

The Constitution could be amended to require the sacrifice of first-born children. And if the sufficient majorities were found to vote for that, it would be "constitutional".

Of course, then treason, and seeking the overthrow and destruction of the Constitution, and supporting foreign invasion and annihilation of the American government, would be the only morally correct thing to do.

You all contend that our only recourse from a majority passing amendments that take away our basic human rights is violence? - 'Treasonous' violence? - Civil war?

tpaine  posted on  2015-07-09   11:10:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: tpaine, Vicomte13, tomder 55, Y'ALL (#5)

You all contend that our only recourse from a majority passing amendments that take away our basic human rights is violence? - 'Treasonous' violence? - Civil war?

Let's flip this; What is YOUR solution to reclaiming the constitution and re-establishing the Founders' REAL intent??

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-09   13:01:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Liberator (#12)

Let's flip this; What is YOUR solution to reclaiming the constitution and re-establishing the Founders' REAL intent??

Did you want MINE? Or just tpaine's?

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-07-09   13:58:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: Vicomte13, tpaine (#22)

I originally asked for paine's solution, but yes, I'd also be interested in yours as well.

Thanks.

Liberator  posted on  2015-07-09 14:04:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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