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Title: Sling TV
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Published: Jul 4, 2015
Author: sneakypete
Post Date: 2015-07-04 20:44:05 by sneakypete
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Views: 19499
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www.sling.com

Above is the link to the homepage of sling tv,and below is a review by CNET magazine.

www.cnet.com/news/sling-t...rything-you-need-to-know/

Anybody else at LF trying this streaming tv service? 1st week is free,and after that it is 20 bucks a month and you get AMC and TNT,among other stations.

HBO is another $15 per month.

There are also free movies for your basic monthy subscription,as well as pay movies.

My Direct TV account was 70 bucks per month,but is creeping back up to a little over 100 bucks a month again,so I am looking for options.

I subscribed and hook up to it using my ROKU player,but you can also do both on your PC,or even on your smart phone.

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Just subscribed a couple hours ago,and have mixed feelings about it. A lot of the programs I would watch on it can also be watched on my Netflix and my Amazon Prime account for free,but not all. RIght now I have am/have been watching the History Channel on it,and the History Channel is also available on Netflix. Haven't checked to see if the programming is identical yet,though.

Frankly,AMC and TNT are big draws for me and why I am looking into it.

So far MY opinion is that it works as advertised,but there are a couple of negatives. The 2 big negatives is I don't see any way to record programs there yet,and the programming is hard to figure out. Frankly,I am spoiled by my Dish Network and Direct TV DVR's and their ability to check upcoming shows and record them instantly as well as VOD shows. Trying to find and view a program in episode order is at best "clunky" for me.

I may just decide at the end of the 7 days that it's worth another 80 bucks a month to have the convenience of recording and an excellent search engine from Dish or Direct. My time may not be worth much dollar wise,but it is worth something to me and I would rather spend it watching shows than trying to find them and remember when they come on.

What say yee?

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#1. To: sneakypete (#0)

Seems to me like you're wandering back into sat subscription. You may as well just do it. I don't see that the TNT/AMC combo with CNN and a few others is an especially good value. AFAIK, you can get the ultra-cheapo package on Directv or Dish for only a little more with higher reliability.

I saw something today at Ars Technica, an article on the best of the WiFi range extenders. Ars is a huge techie site if you aren't aware of it.

ArsTechnica: From the Wirecutter: The best consumer-grade Wi-Fi extender

The winner is this Netgear, currently showing at $120 but you can look around and find it for $100.

Amazon: NETGEAR AC1200 High Power 700mW Dual Band Wi-Fi Range Extender - Desktop with 5 Ports (EX6200)

It's dual-band, supports wireless printers, has a built-in DLNA media server if you plug in a USB hard drive with a bunch of movies (compatible with all your TV boxes like Roku and with computers and smartphones and tablets).

My thinking is you could try one of these Netgear range extenders. Put in in front of a window that faces your outlying metal shed. This Netgear has different modes for 2.4GHz and/or 5GHz so you can set it only to rebroadcast 2.4 or 5 or a combo. So you might choose 2.4GHz for the house but use the 5GHz band to transmit to your shop. (Naturally, you have to have 5GHz-capable networking for this, check your Roku 'cause it might be 2.4Ghz-only).

Anyway, if you could use one of these to boost your shop WiFi to work, it would still probably be cheaper than hiring someone to dig a trench for you to bury some cable. And if it didn't work, pack it up and send it back to Amazon for a refund. And it should work at that price and over that range because that is a very pricey WiFi booster. A pricey Wifi booster had better deliver what it promises or it should be returned to the retailer.

Amazon's top reviews provide some experience with using it to cover a entire backyard well enough for 1080p streaming without buffering.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-05   10:52:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: sneakypete (#0)

Frankly,AMC and TNT are big draws for me and why I am looking into it

I was watching Popcorn flix last night.

They had a commercial for an AMC show called Humans.

Looked very interesting.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   10:58:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: sneakypete (#0)

I see various Rokus do support 5GHz via an Amazon comment: "According to a chat rep at Roku, any of the models listed at http://www.roku.com/products/compare as "Dual Band" will support 5GHz. Of the models current today, that includes the Roku 2(2720R), Roku Streaming Stick (3500R/HDMI) and Roku 3(4200R) models."

Of course, your main router would have to be dual-band too (i.e. have 5GHz radios as well as 2.4GHz) for this to work. To really use this WiFi extender fully, you would have to have a primary 802.11ac or a 802.11n router (not one of those older 802.11g routers like a Linksys WRT54G or any router with the letters 54G in its name).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-05   11:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#1)

Seems to me like you're wandering back into sat subscription.

Not really. While it shows a lot of promise and may be the future,it ain't there yet. From what I have seen so far,it's not worth 2 dollars a month and I will cancel before my free 7 day trial is out.

Primarily because I can get the same content from Netflix cheaper,and the service is MUCH better.

No,I can't record the streaming video from Netflix either,but I don't have to because it is there for me to view anytime I want. On Sling I have to pick a viewing time and remember to go there while it's playing. Plus there is no memory. If I stop a play to answer the telephone,I have to go back to the start of the program again.

Plus I have already had instances twice of the streaming video dying,and had to start viewing at the start of the show once I got it to start loading again.

Maybe I am wrong on some of this and just don't understand the Sling format yet,but I have another 5 days to try.

I definitely need to check out other avenues for betting AMC,TLC,Sundance,etc before I make the final decision,but it's not looking good for Sling so far. I am sure it will be a much better service a year from now than it is now because streaming video IS the future of tv and movie viewing,and the Big Sat company that owns Sling no doubt sees the end of their almost monopoly coming up soon. They have the bucks to invest to make it better,and and they have a reason to do just that. Big Sat is dead,and just waiting around to be buried.

ArsTechnica: From the Wirecutter: The best consumer-grade Wi-Fi extender

The winner is this Netgear, currently showing at $120 but you can look around and find it for $100.

Thanks,but I already have 200 feet of ethernet cable,all the ends and crimper bought and paid for as well as the plastic tubing and connection boxes,and I can get the trench dug for less than 100 bucks to bury it and not have to worry about ever buying anything else.

Plus,I like the idea of a dedicated connection that I KNOW will work and can bury and forget that can't be pulled off the air by anyone passing by.

My thinking is you could try one of these Netgear range extenders. Put in in front of a window that faces your outlying metal shed.

I have no windows facing my "metal shed",which is actually a 35x50 metal building with a 18 foot ceiling and 14x14 insulated commercial garage doors at each end.

I do appreciate being show an option,though. I would almost certainly have given that a shot if I hadn't already bought everything necessary for a buried dedicated connection. Thank you!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#2)

I was watching Popcorn flix last night.

Is that a streaming video service? Do you have a URL and opinions on it that you would like to tell us about?

They had a commercial for an AMC show called Humans.

Looked very interesting.

I have seen a commercial about it elsewhere also,and agree it will be worth checking out.

Remember when The Learning Channel was actually about learning,and the History Channel was actually about History?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:16:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#4)

No,I can't record the streaming video from Netflix either,but I don't have to because it is there for me to view anytime I want.

Netflix changes their movies all the time.

Also you can record Netflix. I read about it somewhere a while back

Here is the best choice. Everything. No cost.

www.thepiratebay.se

www.thepiratebay.cr

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:17:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#3)

I see various Rokus do support 5GHz via an Amazon comment: "According to a chat rep at Roku, any of the models listed at http://www.roku.com/products/compare as "Dual Band" will support 5GHz. Of the models current today, that includes the Roku 2(2720R), Roku Streaming Stick (3500R/HDMI) and Roku 3(4200R) models."

Thanks. I have a ROKU 2 I am planning on using in the shop,and a ROKU 3 for the house.

Of course, your main router would have to be dual-band too (i.e. have 5GHz radios as well as 2.4GHz) for this to work. To really use this WiFi extender fully, you would have to have a primary 802.11ac or a 802.11n router (not one of those older 802.11g routers like a Linksys WRT54G or any router with the letters 54G in its name).

I have a couple of routers,and am unsure about their capability,but since I am going with the landline I don't have to worry about that.

I'm sure there are other people reading this who do need that information,though.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#5)

Is that a streaming video service?

Yes and free on your roku or chromecast.

There are a lot of free streaming sites on roku.

What I really like though is an app for chromecast. It is called video stream.

Whatever video you have on your computer from say the pirate bay. You can stream to your TV.

They have a similar thing for the roku I think it is called media player or something like that. Actually they have a few.

Also Plex is good to have as it translates pretty much everything on the fly.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:21:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: A K A Stone (#6) (Edited)

Also you can record Netflix. I read about it somewhere a while back

I never doubted there was some way to do that. I was only certain that I didn't know how to do it.

IMHO,for a commercial service to be successful,stuff like being able to record their shows should be so simple to do that anyone who casually streams video should just be able to click on a button and do it. If they make it hard to do or so complicated that only a techie can figure it out,they are going to fail.

Here is the best choice. Everything. No cost.

www.thepiratebay.se

www.thepiratebay.cr

Thanks. You have used both of those services and have never had a Trojan worm it's way into your system? The app you have to download doesn't have any hidden secrets?

BTW,what is the difference between those two sites? They look identical to me.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:23:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#9)

They pre check the stuff on the site before you see it.

I also have some links on my other computer I will share with you.

here is one that comes to mind.

Lime torrents. They also pre screen for viruses.

I really like the pirate bays top 100 list.

If you like them quick to downoad you should get downloads from yiffy. HD short files.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:27:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: A K A Stone (#8)

s that a streaming video service?

Yes and free on your roku or chromecast.

Ahhhhh! Now I remember where I saw it!

Thanks!

The biggest problem I have with my ROKU is it offers so much it's hard to keep track of what they do offer.

We literally went from "there is nothing interesting on tv tonight to watch" to "there is too damn much to watch every night even if you watch it 24/7" in just one generation.

Also,I am very happy to say that some of the dramas and historical shows offered by American companies now matches the quality of the best BBC stuff.

That's something I thought I would never live long enough to say.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:29:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#7)

Then there is the free app called popcorn time.

It streams torrents to your device. Kind of like netflix with a nice menu and everything.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#9)

Thanks. You have used both of those services and have never had a Trojan worm it's way into your system?

Video and audio streams don't lend themselves to malware and viruses.

The one main exception would be those special Sony CDs that caused such a public outcry. They would download an extra codec from Sony for Windows Media Player and it would take a lot of bandwidth and CPU power to monitor whether you were playing a genuine Sony CD or a pirated version. It also spied on what you were listening to, sending the results constantly to Sony. Sony pulled it from the market quickly and now pretends it never happened.

By their nature, video/audio streams are just data. They aren't loaded into memory in buffers you can easily overrun to activate a malware payload.

To infect a machine via streams, you'd need instead to attack the video player software. For an outfit like NSA, they could identify and intercept traffic to/from the video player and attack it, most likely as part of a player software update.

There's very little upside to trying to infect machines via streaming. If they're already inside your network, they can attack software on the major OSes much better than to try to attack via streaming.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-05   12:30:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: TooConservative (#13)

I have noticed on some other sites. That they will name files as movies. But they are .exe files. So you automatically know they are fake.

Haven't seen any of those files on the sites I mentioned.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: A K A Stone (#10)

Lime torrents. They also pre screen for viruses.

Those I have heard of,but I still don't know what it means or where it is.

If you like them quick to downoad you should get downloads from yiffy. HD short files.

What's a yiffy?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: A K A Stone (#12)

Then there is the free app called popcorn time.

It streams torrents to your device. Kind of like netflix with a nice menu and everything.

Thanks,and where do I find and download that app?

Is it the same popcorn I get on Netflix?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: sneakypete (#11)

I have Netflix also.

I used to go through the list and I added more then a hundred movies that looked interesting to my play list.

I haven't watched 99 percent of them.

In fact I hardly ever watch netflix. The wife does though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:33:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: sneakypete (#16)

http://popcorn-time.se/

I tried it a couple of times.

It seems to work better for new releases as more people are sharing those files then say something from 1965.

But that isn't always the case I assume.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:35:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: sneakypete (#15)

Lime torrents. They also pre screen for viruses.

Those I have heard of,but I still don't know what it means or where it is.

www.limetorrents.in/

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#15)

What's a yiffy?

Yiffy is an uploader.

Whoever it is they/he/she uploads HD movies that are very small and download in about 10 min or so.

"Yiffy files" can be seen dominating the Pirate bay top 100 HD movies. They can also be found at lime torrents or pretty much any site that has those types of files.

Yiffy also hast their own site. But its name changes periodically. Let me see if I can find it.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: sneakypete (#16)

Here is the Yiffy site.

If you have Bit Comet installed.

You can download any of those movies in a very short time. Very quick.

https://yts.to/

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: TooConservative (#13)

Video and audio streams don't lend themselves to malware and viruses.

Thanks. That has always been a concern of mine when offered the chance to view movies or tv shows from sources not known to be reliable and safe.

To infect a machine via streams, you'd need instead to attack the video player software.

What about the apps you have to download for sites like Pirate? Any danger of that having malware in it?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:41:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete (#22)

What about the apps you have to download for sites like Pirate? Any danger of that having malware in it?

Here is the one I use.

www.bitcomet.com/

A lot of people also use something called Utorrent.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:43:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: A K A Stone (#17)

I haven't watched 99 percent of them.

In fact I hardly ever watch netflix.

I tend to use Netflix to binge watch a whole season on a weekend.

I probably have 50 or more channels saved,and only watch 3 or 4 on a semi-regular basis.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: sneakypete (#24)

I would suggest Game of Thrones to binge watch.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:47:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: A K A Stone (#19)

www.limetorrents.in/

It's really safe to download files from that site?'

Even .exe files?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: A K A Stone (#25)

I would suggest:

Breaking Bad

Deadwood

Tudors

Sons of Anarchy

In that order. Breaking bad was the best series I've ever watched.

I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-07-05   12:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone (#21) (Edited)

If you have Bit Comet installed.

I have no idea what Bit Comet is.

BTW,I have no interest in downloading and saving movies as a general rule. Can I just stream them at these sites instead of downloading them?

I know I can download and then delete them,but why bother to download it when you don't want to save it?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:53:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Breaking bad was the best series I've ever watched.

You and I are in agreement on that! Greatest series ever.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-07-05   12:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#26)

Even .exe files?

Never download an .exe file that claims it is a movie. It isn't.

There shouldn't be any on the sites I've mentioned though.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: A K A Stone (#25)

I would suggest Game of Thrones to binge watch.

LOL! I watch all the episodes when they are new,and then watch them again at least twice while waiting for the new season to begin.

The same with Vikings,Breaking Bad,and a few others.

In fact,I watch so many really good shows now that I can't remember the names of all of them. I actually keep a file on my desktop to remind me.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:57:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#28)

I have no idea what Bit Comet is.

BTW,I have no interest in downloading and saving movies as a general rule. Can I just stream them at these sites instead of downloading them?

I know I can download and then delete them,but why bother to download it when you don't want to save it?

Popcorn time is the only way I know of to stream these files without downloading the.

I don't use it though. Because I like saving them. Because some of the older movies I like probably would download slow as not many people are sharing them.

You can get an external HD for a hundred bucks that is 2TB. That would hold a ton of stuff.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   12:58:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Breaking Bad

Deadwood

Tudors

Sons of Anarchy

Loved them all,and watched them all.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   12:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#31)

I haven't seen vikings yet. But breaking bad and Thrones are among my favorites.

Another really good TV series I watched was "12 monkeys" It was on the sci fi channel There are only 10 episodes out to date. Great show imo.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   13:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Sons of Anarchy

I binged on that the year before final season. Good show.

Try Game of Thrones it is in my opinion better then breaking bad.

And breaking bad is awesome.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   13:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: GrandIsland (#27)

Breaking bad was the best series I've ever watched.

BTW,there was a series titled "The Wire" that has now ended about cops and ghetto rats in Baltimore that you would probably like. Great stories,and some of the best acting in the biz.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   13:01:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: sneakypete (#36)

I've seen a few episodes of the wire. Or maybe just one. I liked it though.

It is the prison movie right?

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   13:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: A K A Stone (#30)

Even .exe files?

Never download an .exe file that claims it is a movie. It isn't.

What about the files these services want you to download so you can access their services?

Don't they have to be .exe files?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   13:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#15)

You should look at PirateBay and KickassTorrents as primary torrent sites.

Outfits like Limewire are kinda dicey, just like Kazaa and Shareaza used to be. And like Kazaa/Shareaza, lots of bogus malware-filled downloads in their software offerings.

While I don't recommend Vuze/Azureus because it is written in Java (a security threat), I do like uTorrent. For $5 a year, it lets you stream torrents as you download them. The free version forces you to wait for the download to complete before you play it. A client that takes a miniscule 1MB of RAM and is mostly written in assembler, it will run on even very old and outdated computers easily.

With the streaming option, uTorrent makes every torrent site into a big Netflix for you. It supports RSS feeds so it will automatically download lists of new torrents for you, very handy for big sites like the ones I mentioned. KickassTorrents does offer easy-to-use RSS feeds for its major torrent categories like movies and TV shows and you can choose specialized RSS feeds, like for HD-movies-only.

Outfits like Kazaa/Shareaza/Limewire have a lot of security holes and problems over the years, lots of downsides. Much of the time, their video feeds are second-rate quality. You're much better off to stay with the best-known torrent clients like uTorrent (or even Vuze) and the main torrent sites like PirateBay and KickAssTorrents.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-07-05   13:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: sneakypete (#38)

What about the files these services want you to download so you can access their services?

Don't they have to be .exe files?

I wouldn't do it.

You don't need their fake crappy video players that are probably loaded with viruses.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-07-05   13:03:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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