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Title: Pilot Recounts Tales of SR-71 Blackbird
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URL Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpVT5Lr0BbI
Published: Jul 18, 2013
Author: Lockheed Martin
Post Date: 2015-07-04 18:13:04 by Justified
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#1. To: Justified (#0)

Pilot Recounts Tales of SR-71 Blackbird

I was a an air traffic control specialist at Chicago center, that required a secret clearance.

Nobody knew the top speed or top altitude capabilities of the SR-71. The pilots received astronaut credentials because of the altitude it flew at. It was the last project of lead engineer Kelly Johnson. Pilots wore special G compensating flight suits and were relegated to special diets to deal with cockpit temperature which ran 140 degrees. Whenever it was desired to set a new speed record they had but to advance the throttle another quarter of an inch. It requored hours after the plane landed before the TiMetal frame cooled down to permit servicing. During its last flight from March air force base in California to Washinton to be retired at the Smithonian institution, the SR-71 crossed the country in 58 minutes.

I has the pleasure of watching one on Radar take off from Rapids City South Dakota and execute a 180 climbing right turn that was completed over Pawnee Kansas pulling four Gs all the way.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-04   20:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rlk (#1)

BFD. Any pussy could do that in an SR-71. Hani Hanjour did a 270 at 500 knots in a 757 before hitting the pentagon. Top that.

Logsplitter  posted on  2015-07-04   20:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rlk (#1)

I watched one take off from Kadena AFB on Okinawa in the 60's,and that sure was a loud MoFo.

Didn't make quite as much noise as a whole flight of B-52's loaded up with full loads of bombs and having to take off under full military power,but it was amazingly loud for a single aircraft.

The B-52 flight was noise you could feel in your bones. I swear I could even feel the ground vigrate.

I know some people claim none were ever based in VN,but I could swear I saw one parked in the "black bird" compound at Ton Sha Knut AFB in Saigon once in 68 or 69. My memory ain't what it used to be since I had the stroke,though.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-04   20:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Logsplitter (#2)

I see by your mindless comments that flying or geography are not your forte.

rlk  posted on  2015-07-04   21:08:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: sneakypete (#3)

Didn't make quite as much noise as a whole flight of B-52's loaded up with full loads of bombs and having to take off under full military power,but it was amazingly loud for a single aircraft.

MITO was a beautiful sight.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-07-04   21:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: nativist nationalist (#5)

I was at the other end of the runway where they locked their brakes and built up power before rolling.

They were so heavy due to the bombs they were carrying that I swear I could see the wings flapping up and down as they hit imperfections in the runway.

If there is anything louder than a flight of those things taking off,I never want to hear it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-04   21:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: nativist nationalist (#5)

MITO was a beautiful sight.

They used to practice that "Alert scramble" scenario all the time when I was stationed at K.I. Sawyer. Used to wake me up all the time in the middle of the night doing that.

Noticed all the BUFFS in the film clip were "Tall Tails", either A or B models.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-04   21:36:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: sneakypete (#3)

The B-52 flight was noise you could feel in your bones. I swear I could even feel the ground vibrate.

You should listen to a pair of F111s taking off at the same time, just as loud if not louder.

Since the back end of the flight line faced the BX/Commissary area at RAF Lakenheath they had all fragile stuff fastened down on the shelves so they wouldn't vibrate off and break on the floor. :)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-04   21:44:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: CZ82 (#8)

The insides of those aircraft had to have been really well insulated to keep the pilots and crew from going deaf.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-04   22:26:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: CZ82 (#7)

Noticed all the BUFFS in the film clip were "Tall Tails", either A or B models.

I cannot tell the older models apart, and the only difference I can spot between the G and H model is the engines. I did some research, the movie was shot at Beale AFB, and at that time they had the E model assigned.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-07-05   0:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nativist nationalist (#10)

I did some research, the movie was shot at Beale AFB, and at that time they had the E model assigned.

Then I would have to say the clip was of "E" models instead of the earlier models, I stand corrected. I also forgot that "A"s were only test aircraft never flew actively. Brain farts. :o

I figured the AF had staged this for the movie makers and consequently had used some of the older models because they were coming to the end of their structural service life. (They started retiring the "B"s in 1964 and all were gone by 1966). That way if something went wrong it wasn't the loss of a frontline aircraft.

They were manufactured with the Tall Tails until the "G" models came out, they were shortened by 8' to reduce weight in the aircraft. But with all the other mods they did (like wet wings) they still ended up being heavier than the earlier models, somewhere close to 500,000 lbs!!

I agree it would be hard to tell the difference of all the earlier models just looking at them from the outside. I know they did a "Big Belly" mod to the "D"s so they could carry more bombs but don't know if you can really see any difference to its fuselage. I think most of those mods were to the doors and the internal racks.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-05   9:34:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: sneakypete (#9)

It helps but headphones do a lot too.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-05   9:42:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: CZ82 (#11)

But with all the other mods they did (like wet wings) they still ended up being heavier than the earlier models, somewhere close to 500,000 lbs!!

That's probably why you could actually see the wings "flapping" on fully loaded ones doing their run-outs.

That and the fact that they HAD to be somewhat flexible to keep them from cracking and falling off. One universal law of nature is "That which doesn't bend,breaks".

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-07-05   11:30:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: CZ82 (#11)

They were manufactured with the Tall Tails until the "G" models came out, they were shortened by 8' to reduce weight in the aircraft. But with all the other mods they did (like wet wings) they still ended up being heavier than the earlier models, somewhere close to 500,000 lbs!!

I always thought it was a shame they scrapped all the G models. I was in favor of a program where the G and H models would have been retrofitted to the B-52J standard with 4 of the PW2000 series high bypass turbofans used on the 757 and C-17. It would of course have been useless for thevtype of military operations our ruling class favors, such as feeding Somalia, but after 9-11 could have done some really nice punitive expedition work like leveling Kandahar.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-07-05   15:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: nativist nationalist (#14)

Don't know if you've seen this yet but the AF is looking for a new bomber to be operational in about 10 years or so.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/

http://breakingdefense.com/2015/04/tough-choices-for-dod-on-long-range-strike- bomber/

http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2015-03-10/us-air-force-sheds- some-light-coming-lrs-b-contract

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-05   17:38:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: nativist nationalist (#14)

I was in favor of a program where the G and H models would have been retrofitted to the B-52J standard with 4 of the PW2000 series high bypass turbofans used on the 757 and C-17.

I vaguely remember hearing something about that, didn't that die back in the mid to late 90s?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-05   17:41:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: CZ82 (#16)

I vaguely remember hearing something about that, didn't that die back in the mid to late 90s?

I remember suggestions as far as the early 80's, IIRC the increased performance would have tripled the number of airfields the B-52 could use. With the improved fuel economy the strike radius would have been greatly increased. I've wondered if with 3D printing advancing; at some point in the future I could make a model of a B-52J with printed engines.

There was a guy in Freeperstan, orionblamblam; he used to do stuff like that. He made his own kits which he sold, some rather obscure offerings. Of course they banned him.

nativist nationalist  posted on  2015-07-05   23:30:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nativist nationalist (#17)

I remember suggestions as far as the early 80's, IIRC the increased performance would have tripled the number of airfields the B-52 could use. With the improved fuel economy the strike radius would have been greatly increased. I've wondered if with 3D printing advancing; at some point in the future I could make a model of a B-52J with printed engines.

Now we know where Dale Brown got all his ideas for his books.. :)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-07-06   20:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Justified (#0)

Thanks for posting. The main, and subsequent video's were very interesting.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-07-06   20:49:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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