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Title: Time to free Puerto Rico as it asks for relief of $72 Billion in debt from US Taxpayers
Source: latimes.com
URL Source: http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-pu ... ernor-says-20150629-story.html
Published: Jun 29, 2015
Author: TRACY WILKINSON
Post Date: 2015-06-29 20:08:18 by Pericles
Keywords: None
Views: 3296
Comments: 34

If it was not for fear of Puerto Rico becoming another Soviet ally like Cuba, the USA would have freed that island long ago. Now we are stuck with a welfare island whose welfare taking citizens can just come to the USA with an American passport. But because of Hispanic politics and maybe lingering love of empire from the Military Industrial Complex, no American politician dares promise to free Puerto Rico. What would Puerto Rico do? Refuse to leave being a colony? That would be a first. At least under the old system Cold War, Puerto Rico made money for American businesses as a plantation island and as a steam ship era naval base.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-puerto-rico-can-t-pay-its-public-debt- island-s-governor-says-20150629-story.html

Puerto Rico staggers under $72 billion in debt; governor asks for help

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#1. To: Pericles (#0)

no American politician dares promise to free Puerto Rico

Dimwitted LaRoucher,

Puerto Rico regularly votes on it's status. The last vote was in 2012 when just 5.49% of Puerto Ricans voted for independence.

You need to stop your crazy, ant-America LaRoucher bullshit.

cranko  posted on  2015-06-29   20:33:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: cranko (#1)

uerto Rico regularly votes on it's status.

Who cares what they do. Kick them out.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-29   21:20:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pericles (#3)

Kick them out.

Because a lazy Greek LaRoucher says we should?

cranko  posted on  2015-06-29   21:37:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: cranko (#4)

What is a LaRoucher and why do you want PRs in America as a colony? So your taxes can pay for their welfare?

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-30   1:13:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pericles (#5)

What is a LaRoucher...

I'm not sure of the relevance of the accusation. I don't recall any posts you made that sounded like a LaRouche cult member. Back at LP, we did have a few threads/posts by an apparent LaRouche type.

The last I recall of a LaRouche candidate was Kesha Rogers in Texas. Another LaRouchie Dem was on the ballot for Thad McCotter's seat.

Wiki: Lyndon LaRouche

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-30   7:52:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#6)

I'm not sure of the relevance of the accusation. I don't recall any posts you made that sounded like a LaRouche cult member.

He quotes a guy (David Goldman) who was a Laroucher for 19 years.

Pericles has claimed he "conservative" and Goldman claims that he was a member of the Reagan administration (even though he didn't leave the LaRouche organization until 1988). Goldman also has a history of trashing Reagan and other conservatives, for example here .

Both Pericles and Goldmand are lunatics.

cranko  posted on  2015-06-30   9:22:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: cranko, Pericles (#10) (Edited)

He quotes a guy (David Goldman) who was a Laroucher for 19 years.

Where did Pericles or his article excerpt quote this Goldman character? I didn't see it and don't find the name in the LAT article either.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-30   9:34:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: TooConservative (#11)

Pericles quotes David Goldman -- a high ranking member of the LaRouche organization for 19 years

Look at post #21. As explained in post #35, Goldman was an LaRouche ally for 19 years and didn't leave the organization until 1988.

cranko  posted on  2015-06-30   9:59:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#14. To: cranko, TooConservative (#12)

So using cranko's faulty logic, Reagan continued being a New Deal Democrat long after he claimed he left the Democrat party.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-30 10:21:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: cranko, Pericles (#12)

Look at post #21. As explained in post #35, Goldman was an LaRouche ally for 19 years and didn't leave the organization until 1988.

I see a link to Goldman's columns in #21.

Anyway, Wiki offers this:

From 1976 to 1982, Goldman was responsible for economic publications in the radical left Lyndon LaRouche movement. Goldman has described himself during that period as a radical and an atheist. After having been a leftist and working with LaRouche,[3] he became a conservative and worked for the Reagan administration and later on Wall Street.[4]

Since the early 1980s, Goldman's perceptions began to change as he approaches progressively towards the conservative pole. Since 1984, Goldman has been employed as an economist and CEO of investment funds and investment policies in senior positions in bodies such as Credit Suisse,[5] Cantor Fitzgerald, Asteri Capital,[5] SG Capital, and others. After leaving Wall Street, he became an editor for First Things magazine.[5] Since September 2013, Goldman has been a Managing Director and head of the Americas division of the Reorient Group investment bank based in Hong Kong.

As an economist, Goldman published hundreds of articles and studies on various economic subjects, in professional journals as well as journals and dailies such as Wall Street Journal, Commentary, and Bloomberg Businessweek. He was a columnist for Forbes from 1994 to 2001.[5]

Alongside his work as an economist and analyst, he has published articles in musicology journals, and wrote his first book, published in 1989. Between 2002 and 2011, Goldman served as a member of the board of directors of Mannes School of Music, where he had been previously a teacher.

This is far less disreputable IMO than some of the neocons who cheered as the tanks rolled into Prague and other shameful episodes before they became flag-waving patriot pro-American hawks, e.g. Irving Kristol, the Horowitz clan, etc.

He's now running Asia Times, a rather conservative outlet in that region. And LaRouche cultists don't get hired at WSJ, Commentary, Bloomberg and Forbes.

Looks to me like you're stretching to find some fault with Pericles and "LaRouchie cultist" based on his quoting someone who was a LaRouche type over 30 years ago is the closest thing you could find. I hope it made you happy.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-30 17:28:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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