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Title: Lindsey Graham: Confederate Flag Is a 'Road Block'
Source: NBCNEWS.com
URL Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre ... derate-flag-road-block-n383371
Published: Jun 28, 2015
Author: Ed Demaria
Post Date: 2015-06-28 14:36:23 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 3383
Comments: 41

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on "Meet the Press" he viewed the Confederate flag as a "road block" for his state, joining others who called for removing it from the grounds of the South Carolina capitol in the wake of this month's shootings in Charleston.

"Put it in a museum," Graham said. "You can look at it any way you would like. But after this shooting, and after the call for it to be taken down by the families of the victims, I see it as a road block to the future of my state."

Days after the shooting, Graham told CNN the flag is "part of who we are" in South Carolina. But last week he stood with Gov. Nikki Haley, R-S.C., and a group of lawmakers as she said it was time to move the flag from Capitol grounds. Graham was part of a compromise in 2000 that placed the flag in its current position. On Meet the Press, he said the recent shooting changed his thinking.

"My state will never be able to move forward after this shooting if we don't take the flag down," Graham said. "The people at the A.M.E. church, the families of the victims changed everything by their grace, by their love, by their forgiveness, making it impossible for a guy like me to say, 'Keep the flag up.'"

When asked by Chuck Todd later in the interview, Graham refused to endorsed removing the names of Confederate figures like Robert E. Lee from schools and roads, citing Lee's accomplishments after the Civil War. "[W]hen you look at what he did as a whole, I think he's earned the right to be called one of the great figures in American history," Graham said. " If it wasn't for his leadership after the war ... only God knows what would've happened after 1865."

On Friday, Graham attended the funeral of Rev. Clementa Pickney, one of the nine people killed in the Charleston shootings.

Graham said of President Obama's speech at the service, "I don't think he's a very good Commander-In-Chief, but he did a very good job."


As always, this guy has his head up his ass.

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

Looks like Lady Lindsey has Jungle Fever.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-28   14:53:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#1)

A Republican party member should not be supporting the use of a Confederate flag as a state symbol.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-30   9:09:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pericles, sneakypete (#4)

A Republican party member should not be supporting the use of a Confederate flag as a state symbol.

What would be the proper way to honor those who died in armed service other than to fly the military battle flag?

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-30   9:55:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#6)

What would be the proper way to honor those who died in armed service other than to fly the military battle flag?

Fly it at the war cemetery? In any case, the Republican party is the party responsible for killing those Confederates for the most part. The GOP made its bones over being the anti-confederates so to have a Republican senator advocate for the confederacy is kind of going against what the very party was birthed to do.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-30   10:16:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Pericles, nolu chan, sneakypete, Deckard (#11)

In any case, the Republican party is the party responsible for killing those Confederates for the most part.

The GOP made its bones over being the anti-confederates so to have a Republican senator advocate for the confederacy is kind of going against what the very party was birthed to do.

I realize you're a foreigner just writing what you "learn" on Wikipedia, but the "Republican" Party platform of 1861 bore little resemblance to the GOP of even 50 years later -- never mind 100-150 years later.

In truth, the original GOP was organized to oust Democrat Andrew Jackson, who denied foreign elites their demand to establish a National Bank. An expensive and effective propaganda campaign and narrative was created (by the rich international Bankster elites) to kill off the Whig Party and create a party they could control at the top. "END Slavery!!" was its noble meme (even as Slavery was being phased out.) That kind of bought propaganda remind us of today's propaganda mills and fake memes.

Thus the original Republican Party was created in a virtual, suspicious flash of an eye in the wake of a Whig party that was suddenly inexplicably crashed and burned. Its position of slavery was blamed, but that's too simplistic. The Whigs had supported a Jeffersonian philosophy of democracy and with it, avoidance of fedgub overreach. (Kinda GOPish, eh?) It also supported common sense government, unity and patriotism, a national transportation network to the West, developing American goods and manufacturing (More GOPish policies...hmmm.) The Whigs also favored territorial expansion -- which enabled the US to annex the Louisiana Purchase and Texas.

The Republican Party -- originally ostensibly created from the ashes of the Whig Party (again -- by backroom international banksters) as a humane party concerned with justice and freedom for slaves -- DID NOT FREE THE SLAVES. That came conditionally, and only as a political chess move.

As it turned out the new elite-established Republican" Party did prove their new party platform was a lie, killing 600,000 Confederates AND Northerners (many new immigrants); maiming hundreds of thousands more (on both sides); Destroyed States rights and sovereignty, while giving the central fedgov incredible power; The international elites of course were overjoyed at this division, chaos, and mayhem. This allowed the elites carpetbaggers from the North to gobble up Confederate wealth and turn both whites AND blacks into their slaves. The "end of slavery," eh?

Then, as today, the rich elites, media, and subversives promoted created a lie in order to profiteer AND eventually create a class of slave. The National Banks were advanced, the Banksters created their Federal Reserve scam through the Wilson-the-Dem Party, confiscated gold, created all the wars -- and nowadays the elites call the shots in the GOP "leadership." There you have a brief synopsis on the manipulation of politics and policy...by the puppetmeister elites of BOTH parties and their respective "leaders."

Meanwhile...have you withdrawn your beans from the Greek National Bank? :-(

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-30   15:27:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Liberator, Pericles, sneakypete, Deckard (#20)

In truth, the original GOP was organized to oust Democrat Andrew Jackson

Jackson died in 1845 and the GOP was organized in 1854. It was sort of a rebranded Whig party with slavery as a divide and conquer political wedge issue.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-30   17:49:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: nolu chan (#27)

(In truth, the original GOP was organized to oust Democrat Andrew Jackson)

Jackson died in 1845 and the GOP was organized in 1854. It was sort of a rebranded Whig party with slavery as a divide and conquer political wedge issue.

I guess it depends on which source we look to as an authority. History says the GOP was organized in 1854. I discounted that history, but I should have given a disclaimer of my "truth" that is really speculation.

It was noted that the Whig Party collapsed in 1852. I'd connected the dots; When Jackson denied the international elites their wish to establish a National Bank, they tried to assassinate him. Logic tells me they did the next best thing to help facilitate their wishes -- Take over the opposing political party: That was the Whigs. To me, this intention meant the seed for the GOP must have been planted much earlier than 1854 or even 1852 -- while Jackson was still alive. There was no logical or political reason for the Whig Party to collapse -- other than political sabotage. The history book will blame "Slavery." I don't buy it.

There is a parallel today: The Democrat Party has been totally hijacked and taken over by Leftists and Globalists. Only they retained the brand name instead of a re-branding by their truthful party name: COMMUNISTS.

Meanwhile, THIS Republican Party's transformation and identity has been dramatically altered since Reagan left. It bares little resemblance to the GOP of pre-1988.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-30   18:34:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Liberator (#33)

There is a parallel today: The Democrat Party has been totally hijacked and taken over by Leftists and Globalists. Only they retained the brand name instead of a re-branding by their truthful party name: COMMUNISTS.

Meanwhile, THIS Republican Party's transformation and identity has been dramatically altered since Reagan left. It bares little resemblance to the GOP of pre-1988.

The Whigs were in the process of morphing into the GOP. The Federalists followed by the Whigs sort of went through Chapter 11 political bankruptcy and emerged politically reorganized. New name, same people.

The GOP party of the pre-Bush era has been carved up from the inside by liberal neo-cons.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-30   19:03:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nolu chan (#34)

The Whigs were in the process of morphing into the GOP.

I can buy that. But also outside "interference" moving along the process of de-Whig-ing the Party, and morphing into a GOP -- a party the elites could control.

The Federalists followed by the Whigs sort of went through Chapter 11 political bankruptcy and emerged politically reorganized. New name, same people.

"Same people" perhaps on the outside. On the inside? You know there had to be changes, aka "Puppetmeisters." That's my speculation anyway.

The GOP party of the pre-Bush era has been carved up from the inside by liberal neo-cons.

Yup. Globalist-Firsters using US assets to do their NWO bidding.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-30   19:16:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Liberator, nolu chan (#35)

The Whigs were in the process of morphing into the GOP.

I can buy that.

There you go. The Confederacy is alien to the GOP.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-30   19:17:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#37. To: Pericles, Liberator (#36)

The Confederacy is alien to the GOP.

Yes, considering the Confederacy existed 1860-1865 and the GOP was barely a presence. Indeed, the Confederates considered the GOP-led Union to be an alien country.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-30 19:46:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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