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Title: Lindsey Graham: Confederate Flag Is a 'Road Block'
Source: NBCNEWS.com
URL Source: http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pre ... derate-flag-road-block-n383371
Published: Jun 28, 2015
Author: Ed Demaria
Post Date: 2015-06-28 14:36:23 by buckeroo
Keywords: None
Views: 3285
Comments: 41

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on "Meet the Press" he viewed the Confederate flag as a "road block" for his state, joining others who called for removing it from the grounds of the South Carolina capitol in the wake of this month's shootings in Charleston.

"Put it in a museum," Graham said. "You can look at it any way you would like. But after this shooting, and after the call for it to be taken down by the families of the victims, I see it as a road block to the future of my state."

Days after the shooting, Graham told CNN the flag is "part of who we are" in South Carolina. But last week he stood with Gov. Nikki Haley, R-S.C., and a group of lawmakers as she said it was time to move the flag from Capitol grounds. Graham was part of a compromise in 2000 that placed the flag in its current position. On Meet the Press, he said the recent shooting changed his thinking.

"My state will never be able to move forward after this shooting if we don't take the flag down," Graham said. "The people at the A.M.E. church, the families of the victims changed everything by their grace, by their love, by their forgiveness, making it impossible for a guy like me to say, 'Keep the flag up.'"

When asked by Chuck Todd later in the interview, Graham refused to endorsed removing the names of Confederate figures like Robert E. Lee from schools and roads, citing Lee's accomplishments after the Civil War. "[W]hen you look at what he did as a whole, I think he's earned the right to be called one of the great figures in American history," Graham said. " If it wasn't for his leadership after the war ... only God knows what would've happened after 1865."

On Friday, Graham attended the funeral of Rev. Clementa Pickney, one of the nine people killed in the Charleston shootings.

Graham said of President Obama's speech at the service, "I don't think he's a very good Commander-In-Chief, but he did a very good job."


As always, this guy has his head up his ass.

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#1. To: buckeroo (#0)

Looks like Lady Lindsey has Jungle Fever.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-28   14:53:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: sneakypete (#1)

A Republican party member should not be supporting the use of a Confederate flag as a state symbol.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-30   9:09:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pericles, sneakypete (#4)

A Republican party member should not be supporting the use of a Confederate flag as a state symbol.

What would be the proper way to honor those who died in armed service other than to fly the military battle flag?

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-30   9:55:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nolu chan, sneakypete (#6)

What would be the proper way to honor those who died in armed service other than to fly the military battle flag?

Fly it at the war cemetery? In any case, the Republican party is the party responsible for killing those Confederates for the most part. The GOP made its bones over being the anti-confederates so to have a Republican senator advocate for the confederacy is kind of going against what the very party was birthed to do.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-30   10:16:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Pericles, nolu chan, sneakypete, Deckard (#11)

In any case, the Republican party is the party responsible for killing those Confederates for the most part.

The GOP made its bones over being the anti-confederates so to have a Republican senator advocate for the confederacy is kind of going against what the very party was birthed to do.

I realize you're a foreigner just writing what you "learn" on Wikipedia, but the "Republican" Party platform of 1861 bore little resemblance to the GOP of even 50 years later -- never mind 100-150 years later.

In truth, the original GOP was organized to oust Democrat Andrew Jackson, who denied foreign elites their demand to establish a National Bank. An expensive and effective propaganda campaign and narrative was created (by the rich international Bankster elites) to kill off the Whig Party and create a party they could control at the top. "END Slavery!!" was its noble meme (even as Slavery was being phased out.) That kind of bought propaganda remind us of today's propaganda mills and fake memes.

Thus the original Republican Party was created in a virtual, suspicious flash of an eye in the wake of a Whig party that was suddenly inexplicably crashed and burned. Its position of slavery was blamed, but that's too simplistic. The Whigs had supported a Jeffersonian philosophy of democracy and with it, avoidance of fedgub overreach. (Kinda GOPish, eh?) It also supported common sense government, unity and patriotism, a national transportation network to the West, developing American goods and manufacturing (More GOPish policies...hmmm.) The Whigs also favored territorial expansion -- which enabled the US to annex the Louisiana Purchase and Texas.

The Republican Party -- originally ostensibly created from the ashes of the Whig Party (again -- by backroom international banksters) as a humane party concerned with justice and freedom for slaves -- DID NOT FREE THE SLAVES. That came conditionally, and only as a political chess move.

As it turned out the new elite-established Republican" Party did prove their new party platform was a lie, killing 600,000 Confederates AND Northerners (many new immigrants); maiming hundreds of thousands more (on both sides); Destroyed States rights and sovereignty, while giving the central fedgov incredible power; The international elites of course were overjoyed at this division, chaos, and mayhem. This allowed the elites carpetbaggers from the North to gobble up Confederate wealth and turn both whites AND blacks into their slaves. The "end of slavery," eh?

Then, as today, the rich elites, media, and subversives promoted created a lie in order to profiteer AND eventually create a class of slave. The National Banks were advanced, the Banksters created their Federal Reserve scam through the Wilson-the-Dem Party, confiscated gold, created all the wars -- and nowadays the elites call the shots in the GOP "leadership." There you have a brief synopsis on the manipulation of politics and policy...by the puppetmeister elites of BOTH parties and their respective "leaders."

Meanwhile...have you withdrawn your beans from the Greek National Bank? :-(

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-30   15:27:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Liberator, nolu chan, sneakypete, Deckard (#20)

So now the GOP is pro confederacy? If that is the case American politics are shit.

The GOP has lots of Dixie-crats in the fold and we all have to pretend the GOP is not the seggregationist party but the Party of Lincoln (TM).

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-30   17:02:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Pericles, Liberator, sneakypete, Deckard (#21)

So now the GOP is pro confederacy?

Many people who affiliate with the GOP or Dem party respect and honor those who have served in uniform. It is more stressed in the South as part of their culture. If Germans honor their fallen soldiers from WW2, that would not be an expression of Nazism or anti-Semitism.

Honoring those who served has nothing to do with politically correct nonsense or the Rev. Al Sharpton's cause of the month.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-30   18:03:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#41. To: nolu chan, Liberator, sneakypete (#29)

If Germans honor their fallen soldiers from WW2, that would not be an expression of Nazism or anti-Semitism.

Greece honors the 300 Lacedaemonian slave-owners who died at Thermopylae. The Lacedaemonians had a socialist system in which the slave labor of Messenians was exploited so that each Lacedaemonians benefited. In the South a small minority of whites owned the slaves, Lacedaemonian all owned slaves. It served as the basis of their entire economy.

Athenians were also brutal slave owners, and the majority of the population owned at least one slave. They also forced female slaves to work in brothels, I've never heard of such a thing in the American South. They also owned a number of black slaves from Africa, there was an African slave trade to Greece thousands of years before slaves ever came to America. Vitruvious wrote of a Greek temple in which the columns were statues of female slaves, to signify the burden they had to bear.

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