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Title: Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage
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Published: Jun 27, 2015
Author: Joe Newby
Post Date: 2015-06-27 15:05:46 by lana
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Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage After the Supreme Court issued its ruling on gay marriage Friday, President Obama gave a speech in which he said Americans need to change their religious views to be accepting of gay marriage, the Daily Caller reported. To that end, he encouraged gay marriage supporters to "help” people overcome their deeply-held religious views. “I know that Americans of goodwill continue to hold a wide range of views on this issue,” he said. Initially, he exhibited a bit of respect for those who oppose same-sex marriage. "Opposition in some cases has been based on sincere and deeply held beliefs,” he said. “All of us who welcome today’s news should be mindful of that fact. Recognize different viewpoints. Revere our deep commitment to religious freedom.” "But today should also give us hope that on the many issues with which we grapple often painfully real change is possible,” he added. The implication was clear: Those who disagree with the idea of gay marriage based, for example, on their religious views, must change to be more like progressives who accept gay marriage. “Shifts in hearts and minds is possible,” he added. “And those who have come so far on their journey to equality have a responsibility to reach back and help others join them. Because for all our differences, we are one people — stronger together than we could ever be alone.” "That’s always been our story," he continued. "We are big and vast, and diverse. A nation of people with different backgrounds and beliefs, with different experiences and stories, but bound by our shared ideal that no matter who you are, or what you look like, how you started off, or how and who you love — America’s a place where you can write your own destiny.” A post at the conservative blog Chicks on the Right posted it's translation of Obama's comments. "All you crazy religious people who believe in traditional marriage need to change your beliefs!" the blog said. "They're holding you back from joining up with the rest of us super-smart people who aren't burdened by those pesky moral standards given to you by a Higher Power. We know soooooo much better than you and we certainly know soooooo much better than God! Drop the religion crap already and come join us in supporting something you find morally repugnant! Give it time - you'll get over it soon enough!" The blog also saw something of a threat in Obama's comments. "This is our chance to choose to jump up and party with all the same-sex marriage celebrators before you come down and force us to do it?" the blog asked. "What are you going to do if we're still not on board with it? If we still cling to God and religion? 'Cause I'm pretty secure in the knowledge that God will have something to say about that in a future day." Obama, as we reported in 2012, has spent some time shifting and evolving on the issue of gay marriage. In February 1996, he wrote on a candidate questionnaire: “I favor legalizing same-sex marriages, and would fight efforts to prohibit such marriages.” In 2011, however, then-White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer claimed the statement was written by someone else. "What I believe is that marriage is between a man and a woman … What I believe, in my faith, is that a man and a woman, when they get married, are performing something before God, and it’s not simply the two persons who are meeting,” he said during his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign. In 2008, he supported civil unions, but not gay marriage. In 2012, he came on board with gay marriage, apparently reverting back to his 1996 position. But as we reported at the time, there was one caveat. He still supported the states' right to decide the matter for themselves. Celebrating the Supreme Court decision, the White House was lit up in the colors of the gay rainbow flag Friday. The Interior Department marked it with a picture of two men kissing on the edge of Colorado's Black Canyon, drawing praise from many and criticism from others.
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"What I believe is that marriage is between a man and a woman … What I believe, in my faith, is that a man and a woman, when they get married, are performing something before God, and it’s not simply the two persons who are meeting,” he said during his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign. In 2008, he supported civil unions, but not gay marriage. This man is a pathological liar. We all know that. 0blabla not told a single truth his entire life -- much less during his fake, contrived Presidency. Meanwhile, the anecdotal sickening level of over-representation and influence within this gubmint was on display: Celebrating the Supreme Court decision, the White House was lit up in the colors of the gay rainbow flag Friday. The Interior Department marked it with a picture of two men kissing on the edge of Colorado's Black Canyon, drawing praise from many and criticism from others. America: An absolute disgrace from seas to shining sea; an effete nation of cowards (Holder was right.) America IS at the Salton Sea stage of its existence.
GREAT translation! (We have a few posters here who might have been 0blabla's ghost writer.)
It appears society has determined the only sin is racism. Furthermore, they have determined the God of the Bible is dead. They are going to have a difficult job eliminating the eternal fires of hell.
And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6
I suppose if Obama was President during the Roe v Wade court decision, he would have said something similar? Would he have encouraged abortion supporters to "help” people overcome their deeply-held religious views?
RLK: Americans need to reject subversive and self serving propaganda and return to accepting the concept of serious psychopathology.
Does this goober even know what country he is supposed to be leading? Somebody should slap that ignorant SOB up side his nappy head and splain to him he ain't the freaking King and he doesn't get to tell his "subjects" what they can and can not believe. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
ONLY white racism. Other forms of racism are not only peachy-keen,but justified and necessary. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You forgot the OTHER "Mortal Sin," Gary. "Homophobia." (I wonder how Tranny Gaia will punish the guilty?) This entire hostile social-ist movement is aimed at demonizing....God (!) and of course His disciples of the Gospel (Christians.) God now portrayed as either "evil," indifferent, or He doesn't exist. Satan's power grows still... Exactly how a bunch of nihilists, atheists, narcissists, and New Agers took over and subverted the mantle of morality and ethics within 20 years (especially since the advent of the internet) in this country has been mind-boggling.
If we had any true patriots in the SS, that would have already been done! Si vis pacem, para bellum
Americans should get on their knees, repent, and ask God for forgiveness, for putting his ugly jug eared azz in the White House !! Si vis pacem, para bellum
Perhaps you're over-reacting a bit..... really, we still live in the greatest nation on earth! Ok sure, I understand that there are some folks who are ready to have their heads explode, but in reality the USA is still the best place to call home! Maybe we should all be thankful that we have the rights to disagree and debate..... Of course, on the other hand....what are you to do now? Will you renounce your citizenship and settle elsewhere? Or what? "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
My question is WHY!!! “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I think Obama shifts his opinion enough for everyone!
I think Obama shifts his opinion enough for everyone! LOL!
but in reality the USA is still the best place to call home! "ThE sofT biGotry oF Loww expectationS"
Which equals more campaign contributions for him. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
He is the typical liar I mean activist politician. Says whatever you want to hear and then does what he wanted todo to begin with.
Obama, STFU !!!!! Then ESAD !!!!! Si vis pacem, para bellum
How many countries have you been in and how much time have you spent in each?
It should read STILL have the rights to disagree and debate. Totalitarianism, you see, when it comes to full fruition DOES NOT TOLERATE dissent. Look no further than the totalitarian democrat party . . . . no debate or dissent there. Yes, in 35 or so short years we've gone from Reagan's "Shining City on a Hill" to Jameson's "Hey, it's still better than Kenya or Somalia." Progress, huh?
That was the homo coming out.
The definition of the greatest nation on earth can't be a nation that thinks queers are anything other then abnormal losers that are also stupid.
Discriminate against fags.
IMHO that is more of a statement on the sorry situation in other countries all around the world than it is a tribute to America. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The English mathematician that broke the Nazi Enigma codes during WW-2 was a homosexual. Do you think you are smarter than he was? BTW,it became known that he was a homosexual after the war,and he lost his job and pretty much everything he had worked for because of it,and IIRC,he ended up killing himself. I guess you think that was a just reward for his work during WW-2? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Good.
Good. You are a sick puppy,Stone. It can't be fun to live with all that hatred boiling over in you every day. BTW,you called him stupid,and didn't answer my question about do you think you are smarter than he was. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
It can't be fun to live with all that hatred boiling over in you every day. I don't give a shit about some dead faggot.
You care enough to be glad his government took everything from him after the war,and that he committed suicide because of it. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
after the war,and he lost his job and pretty much everything he had worked for because of it Good. His deciphering of the Enigma codes played a huge part in us winning the war, and you say"good"? Unreal. Say - you aren't part of the "God Hates Fags" clan, are you? 22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
God certainly hates homosexuality. Do you disagree?
Another fag defender. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
I grew up being told that God loves everybody. Can you please point me to the part of the Bible where it says God hates homosexuals? Thank you in advance. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Go back and learn to read you f'n moron.
I'm sure Stone can find you your answer... but if he can't, surely you realize that Mother Nature hates fags... "Since the epidemic began, almost 92,613 persons with AIDS that were infected through heterosexual sex, have died, including an estimated 4,550 in 20123." I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
He hates the act, not the person. You can read better then sneaky the peter.
Another fag defender. I don't advocate killing them. Stone does. Stone does. Quit making stuff up. I've never said any such thing.
Stone does. Quit your YELLA bullshit. I never said anything about "killing"... I accused you of DEFENDING. Grandisland ~ " Another fag defender." You have no honor... you're the most deceptive poster on this site. I'm the infidel... Allah warned you about. كافر المسلح
Stone does. Quit making stuff up. I've never said any such thing. A cursory search turned up at least one instance of you advocating killing gays. Title: ISIS Celebrates Gay Love by Tossing 4 Gays from Roof of Building Why only 4?
Title: ISIS Celebrates Gay Love by Tossing 4 Gays from Roof of Building #8. To: Fred Mertz (#1) Why only 4? Don't be stupid. Why only 4. That is just a question.
Ok,I'm the moron here,so humor me and tell me all about God and his hatred. I'd really like to hear about how he created everything,including homosexuals,and how he hates them. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think Mother Nature hates everybody. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He hates the act, not the person. Please splain how you can have the act without the person. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Nope - not defending them at all. I just don't think the solution is to kill them. Many homosexuals have been productive members of society and have contributed to making the world a better place in spite of their faggotry. Stone (and you I suppose) would ignore that fact. He hates the act, not the person. Please splain how you can have the act without the person. Hate the sin, love the sinner. We all sin, and you were right when you said "I grew up being told that God loves everybody." You could also say the same thing about drunkenness. God hates the act, but loves the person. Is it possible for a parent to love a child and dislike some things the child might do.
It's possible for a parent to love a child and hate everything they do. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Then you answered your own question Pete.
I thought it was Polish cryptologists who in 1932 first discovered ways of deciphering Enigma. The Poles did so with the aid of French-supplied intelligence material obtained from a German spy. The Poles actually built replicas of the machines. The Poles turned over the methodology and the machines to the British and French at the beginning of the war. However, credit for breaking the code was given to Alan Turing and Joan Clark at Bletchley Park in the UK.
I THINK they had help from a Polish partisan group that ambushed a Nazi convoy and managed to capture a early Enigma machine with the code books. IIRC,this was the source of the early British ability to read the Nazi messages. Then the Royal Navy managed to capture a Nazi U-boat and board it before it sank to save the code books and the code machine. Then later in the war the Nazi's developed a new Enigma machine with an additional set of rotors,and it was a whole new game. IIRC,this new code was the one the guy broke. I THINK he is also credited with inventing the first working computer,which is what was needed to reduce the number of possibilities,but could be wrong about this. I got all this from watching a PBS series about "The Code Breakers of Benchley Park"(or some similar title) a few years ago. Despite his young age he was a bleeping genius that headed up the operation,but he by no means did it all by himself. I also read a novel about the Enigma Machine sometime back in the early 60's. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Then you answered your own question Pete. AFAIK,God isn't supposed to hate. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
U505 IIRC... “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
God hated Esau.
My first guess would have to be "ZERO", if it isn't then he sure doesn't remember what he saw... “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Observe the order of precedence in the context of Romans 1:25+ The proliferation of homosexual behavior is a punitive response to something else. Are nations created things?
Pete, God can and does hate. If you want to delve further into this question, get a Strong's Concordance and look up references for the word "hate" or use the online search engine for an online Concordance.
Well those ladies are right in their translation. I think the TV series The Bible called it: Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
While I don't believe there is any such creature,I have no doubt about the truth of that if he does exist. Who could possibly read the Old Testament and have any doubt? Yet God is always portrayed as a kind,gentle,and loving soul. Which I never could equate with sending people to burn in hells fire for eternity. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think the TV series The Bible called it: Yup. The conservo-chicks were right in their translation/interpretation; And so was the casting director of 'The Bible.' THAT "Satan" so uncannily resembled 0blabla that subsequent scenes were deleted thereafter -- as demanded of the der Fuehrer from his bunker. It seems the power-of-suggestion hit a little to close to home.
Hardly. If I were a younger man with no school aged children I would be seriously thinking about moving out of the U.S. My vote isn't worth sh*t here anymore so moving to a place were I might not be able to vote would be no biggie. Australia might be a better place to live and raise a family these days. Heck even Canada may be save for the weather. I would seriously look at places in Asia and S. America as well. Western Europe, Africa, the ME would not be on the radar screen. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
If you hate the leftism here,you ain't going to like Australia. I would seriously look at places in Asia and S. America as well. Never been to either,have you? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Never been to either,have you? Yes, bor. SA quite some time ago, Asia several times in the past decade. Neither are bastions of freedom nor without social and economic problems (especially racial prejudices) but an anglo foreigner that can speak the language probably could live a relatively pleasant life without every day having to watch and bemoan the destruction of the society in which he grew up. "Australia might be a better place to live and raise a family these days. If you hate the leftism here,you ain't going to like Australia." I wouldn't GAS, at least I know what to expect. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Seems to me that very few Asians exhibit prejudices towards Caucasians. You can live amongst them with no racial problems whatsoever as long as conduct yourself in a respectful manner. Truth to tell,white people are more welcome these days in Asia than they are America. Not so for blacks living in any area where American blacks were stationed in the US Military. Australia and the US had a mini-diplomatic flare up over blacks going to Australia on R&R in 1969,and Australia wanted to ban them due to their conduct. They relented because both the US and Australia were allies in the VN war,and both wanted to show a united front. I did hear plenty of complaints about US blacks while I was there,though. Same thing with Japan. The Japanese have arrested and given stiff prison sentences to a proportionately high number of American blacks for beating,raping,and even murdering Japanese women. I know of two cases where the US government tried to intervene and arrange for the convicts to serve their time in US prisons,and the Japanese basically told them to piss off. I have no doubt that the time they served in a Japanese prison for raping and/or murdering Japanese women was really and truly "hard time". You give a Japanese prison guard any lip,you will get beaten senseless. Different laws and a different approach to the treatment of prisoners. BTW,I was considering a future move to Russia after the collapse of the USSR. Then the Russians were robbed blind by the Clinton Administration as well as by (mostly) German industrialists,and Putin replaced Yeltsin and the friendly atmosphere towards Americans took a major chill. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Depends on where you go. There are pockets were Americans are not well embraced. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I have gone hot and cold, several times, on Russians. I do not think that I would enjoy living there even when I was positive towards them. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
"Why can't we just all get along (and be gay with me)? You won't know if you like until you have tried it... ;) " - Bathhouse (Barry) Obama
I see you disagree... which nation is greater in your opinion? "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
I've never traveled.....nor do I wish to. This is my opinion, (which is shared my most Americans) Ok, so now you can share some person anecdotes about all your travels!..... "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
Those are your words, and your opinion - not mine. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
I see, anti-American..... Which nation, in your opinion fits into your narrow-minded definition? "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
Discriminate against fags. Not really very productive, or very Christ-Like...... Sadly for you, nothing new, am I right? How has your personal discrimination crusade been working? Are you one of those westboro people? "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
It's a shame that you are so pessimistic.... But things are looking up - 4th of July weekend coming up!!! Beer and BBQ!!! "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
Which nation, in your opinion fits into your narrow-minded definition? Call me anti American again and your're banned.
Stop making excuses. If you really believed that there were a better place to live than the USA, you would do everything in your power to go there. I would encourage you to take action now! "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
My, aren't we sensitive this morning! LOL! Answer the question!!! Which nation, in your opinion fits into your narrow-minded definition? "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; and ... that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! ... Isaiah 5:20 .
Strike 2.
Beer and BBQ!!! Not expectedly, the significance of this day is a just a "party" for you. Figures. Same as....Memorial Day, eh? What are you -- 25 years old? Your ilk have so sense of propriety...No respect for the traditions and heritage of America. This is America's Independence Day. A time for contemplation. Just as we should do Memorial Day. I'm sure the BBQ'd rat you snort in FEMA Camp will remind you of this post. Btw -- ready to crack open the bubbly for the new national holiday -- 'LBGT Day'?
All you can do is laugh at his guano...
Tell us...about your "Christ." I'm all ears. How has your personal discrimination crusade been working? Projecting again? Give us a lecture on the "discrimination crusade" (as you've been indoctrinated.) Do you support the 1st Amendment? Do you believe "dignity" (Kennedy's word) is the basis for sodomy-Marriage? Are you one of those westboro people? Are you one of those confused gender people who believe Westboro represents "Christ-ian"? Tick...tick...tick...
- Bathhouse (Barry) 0buma HA! That's exactly what he said. Great translation.
Oddly, the 14th Amendment and "Equal Protection" clause seems to be enforced....IN JAPAN.
Those are your words, and your opinion - not mine. No. My words (which you chose not to comment on) were an observation that sometime in the 80s Reagan referred to the USA as a ". . . . shining city on a hill" That America is gone, and the hill has been replaced by a dung heap.
yeah..... So, you don't celebrate our nation's independence? Sad for you.... "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
"America is gone, and the hill has been replaced by a dung heap. " These are your words. "...Reagan referred to the USA as a ". . . . shining city on a hill" Those words were John Winthrop's "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
Jameson "celebrating" BBQ Day: "gurgle...gurgle....oh, baby....Am I a man now? Or woman? Nevermind. It feels goooood to celebrate whatever Day this is." (chick-wicka-bow-wow)
For Jameson, the more flies and maggots buzzing, the "shinier" the dung-hill.
Thanks for the history lesson. Now back to the point - is America still a shining city on a hill? Was it ever (in your opinion)?
Still waiting... 1) Go ahead and lecture us on the "discrimination crusade" (as you've been indoctrinated.) 2) Do you support the 1st Amendment? 3) Do you believe "dignity" (Kennedy's word) is the basis for sodomy-Marriage? 4) Are you one of those confused gender people who believe Westboro represents "Christ-ian"? 5) Since you seem to know, tell us...about your "Christ." We're all ears. Thanks.
Not a lot to celebrate in recent years with freedom and liberty rapidly on the decline. What I'm trying to get his or her viewpoint on is simple - Whatever one's concept of "America" is - overvall, have we advanced, or declined? Simple question, really. And in a world full of hellholes and backwaters, saying "well, America is still better than [fill in the blank]" hardly seems comforting when looking at the bigger picture.
I agree. Sadly. It's almost a day of national mourning, truth be told. But then that's been the MO of the Statist-Globalists as well as the socialists. They are trying to eradicate America's traditions, heritage, and everything good and noble about it. Too many good men and patriots are allowing it to happen -- THAT is most disappointing.
Declined. What the leftist progressives call 'advancement' has caused the decline of our nation. It is advancement to them...advancement to secular Marxism. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
Whatever one's concept of "America" is - overvall, have we advanced, or declined? Simple question, really. I'd assume a good little God-less, socialist transgender-whatever troll like Jameson would consider ANY wreckage of America to be "advancement." In a world full of hellholes and backwaters, saying "well, America is still better than [fill in the blank]" hardly seems comforting when looking at the bigger picture. Exactly. These same socialists and America-haters have been trying to sabotage America and "level the playing field" since the 1970s. ALL the while flopping around in their hot tub, cruising vacations, and cashing in their gubmint Golden Parachutes. D*mn hypocrites.
LOL
It was a Puritan phrase, revived first by JFK then by Reagan. Wiki: ... In the twentieth century, the image was used a number of times in American politics. On 9 January 1961, President-Elect John F. Kennedy returned the phrase to prominence during an address delivered to the General Court of Massachusetts: ... President Ronald Reagan used the image as well, in his 1984 acceptance of the Republican Party nomination[3] and in his January 11, 1989, farewell speech to the nation:
Interesting factoid. Odds of 0blabla referring to America as a "Shining City upon a Hill": 0%
Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
Is this perfect or what? Heh! (I think I'll send it to my liberal-left homo-loving, Christian-hating college professor friend whose "job" is brainwashing pods. In typical narcissistic Marxist fashion, his "fantasy -- believe it or not -- is 'performing" his class in a stadium.)
Send him this too! Nothing like a Tim Tebow pic to get the juices of hatred flowing with libs:) Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
Those words were John Winthrop's They were Reagans in the example given because they were a key part of the speech he made. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
LOL! Good one! I expect to see birds flying backwards before that happens. Or to see a feral law passed making white people slaves. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
They were all cribbing from Augustine's The City of God, considered his greatest work.
1) "discrimination crusade" - It was your hero and site owner who has stated that he does, and will continue to discriminate.....check with him 2) Do you support the 1st Amendment? Of course, do you? 3) Do you believe "dignity" (Kennedy's word) is the basis for sodomy-Marriage? No. 4) Are you one of those confused gender people who believe Westboro represents "Christ-ian"? Sorry, no... you'll have to keep looking... 5) Since you seem to know, tell us...about your "Christ." We're all ears. Read the book "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
Absolutely. It has been for a couple hundred years, and will continue to be. That's my opinion, since you asked so nicely. I've know a great many young (and not-so-young) people from other parts of the world, who have come here to study, to learn, and to work. They mortgage all they have, in many cases all their entire family has ever had - just for the opportunity. Then they return home and try to spread their experience and their training to their country. We continue to innovate, research, develop, and build. We continue to evolve as a culture and grow as a society. The future is bright. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I see things quite differently. The America you described gradually ceased to exist, starting probably 50 years ago (or more.) When the Founders created for posterity a "CONTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC" they assumed there would always be a pool of statesmen to draw from. Statesmen who would lead (not stick their moist finger to the wind). Statesmen who would take the long view - sometimes doing the unpopular thing. Instead we are infested at all levels of government (and now the courts) with politicians. Politicians could be compared to prostitutes, and their supporters to "johns" - but that would be an insult to whores and their clients. Today's pols have entered a Faustian bargain - their "johns" get more and more freebies and benefits, as long as they keep voting them in. And due to the "bipartisan" efforts of both Ds and Rs, numbers of freebie seekers will continue to grow exponentially. So the politicians have given us a welfare state - and now the courts have given us Ancient Rome. "The future is bright" you say. So is the headlight of an oncoming train.
And I learned a very, very, very long time ago that giving them what they want only makes them worse not happy. Cause it's "IMPOSSIBLE" for a Leftard to be happy, they're too stupid!!!!!!!
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Yes, ignorant people often make absurd assertions because they don't have the facts. The U.S. is 12th in Economic Freedom The U.S. is a lowly 49th in Press Freedom But my favorite category is one I called petty tyranny. There aren't any police in Thailand shutting down kid's mango stands. There aren't any regulations in the Philippines that prevents people from competing in the taxi business. There aren't any laws in China prohibiting smoking in restaurants, bars, and office buildings. On and on and on... The U.S. has become one of the biggest petty tyrannies on the planet, especially compared to what we were 40 or 50 years ago.
I would encourage you to take action now! ARe you a turd in real life or do you jusy play one on LF? And do you know how to read? What part of "If I were a younger man with no school aged children...." don't you comptrehend? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Ok,thanks for the history lesson. I did not know that. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think it started in the 1920's when the Soviet Union created their program to take over our schools,but your 50 year estimate is pretty much on the mark for when the takeover was complete and they were going full-speed ahead. No American born since 1964 has ever lived in a free country and has no idea what they are missing. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
God is merciful, forgiving, and loving. He is also holy and fearful. Many believe that when they meet God, they will "tell off the old geezer" and be happy to go to Hell where they will have the time of their life or simply cease to exist. I can only say that when they meet God, they won't tell Him off. They won't nonchalantly march off to Hell. Hell is a place of darkness and torment and great fear. That is why Christians do things to warn people of the blessings of Heaven and the punishments of Hell, a place of torment and regret that they didn't take advantage of God's offer of salvation when they had the chance. There will be no one in Hell who will be able to say they didn't know or didn't have the opportunity to gain a ticket to be with God in His Kingdom.
Ok.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Sure, I can read, can you? "...If I were a younger man with no school aged children..." is an excuse. If you really believed that there were a better place to live than the USA, you would do everything in your power to go there. So you're either unwilling to do what "YOU" believe is best for your family - or - you're just full of shit and a whiner on an insignificant web forum populated by a bunch of old malcontents.... I'll bet on the later. "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
There aren't any laws in China prohibiting smoking in restaurants, bars, and office buildings. On and on and on... yeah, we would all be better off if we were more like china...right? Sad "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
What is that going to consist of other than pinching a loaf out in the back yard while the neighbors are walking by??? “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Are you a dung beetle?? “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
It's boring to read adolescent attempts at insults coming from some bitter old hump like you. But, I find your weakness amusing. So anyway - "wreckage of America" Just what do you mean, wreckage? "we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie. "Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you."
Grade of insult: D- Just what do you mean, wreckage? Insert binky. Go back to nappy-time.
I know -- it's just another day. The least they can do is blast 'YMCA' while playing "Pinch-the-Loaf," or, "Hide-the-Salami." :-)
That's kinda high up on the "evolutionary" scale. Maybe he's a larva, but aspiring dung beetle. Dunno how much *that* hill is going to shine.
The new "Land of the Free and Home of the Brave??" WHO KNEW! Just don't have that *second* baby, Mao :-(
Noooooooo....!!! (True dat.)
All I hear from him are platitudes nothing of substance... He's also beginning to sound like meguro! “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Or to see a feral law passed making white people slaves. Actually the white Millennials WILL be slaves. Well...the ones who buy the "we're here from the gubmint and here to help" knock at the door in 10 years.
He is also forgetting about the female baby laws in China.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Hmmm... The real ID test would be the kooky last-word and non-stop "homophobe!" volleys. Heh...
Is he? FREEDOM!! (TO KILL BABY GIRLS!!) Aaaah, China. ALMOST like America -- as though that's become a good thing. To boot -- their toxic food is inspected to the highest standards of non-safety!
Isn't THIS true?? Who hasn't noticed this? Mean, nasty, spiteful -- full of vinegar and bile. ALL the time. These pods are perpetually b*tchin and moaning about some imagined grievance, victimhood, or injustice -- as though executing every Republican, conservative or Christian would solve the problem. They are pathologically and psychologically insane. In epidemic proportions.
WELL stated. With the pool of REAL statesmen who loved America at the time, they NEVER imagined this greasy, stinky, corrupt pool of raw sewage would be THE pickings in the future. Yup -- day & night difference between "Statesmen and "politicians." Today's pols have entered a Faustian bargain - their "johns" get more and more freebies and benefits, as long as they keep voting them in. And due to the "bipartisan" efforts of both Ds and Rs, numbers of freebie seekers will continue to grow exponentially. So the politicians have given us a welfare state - and now the courts have given us Ancient Rome. "The future is bright" you say. So is the headlight of an oncoming train. OUT-standing!
I do believe that there is now and will be more so for my grandkids before they achieve adulthood. They are not part of a minority group, other than they are being taught conservative principles and values as well as religious values and self-reliance, any of which makes them a target in the U.S. even today. There will be no better time for my daughter to relocate her family to a place that is less hostile toward those values - before the grandkids get brainwashed in the U.S. school system and are the outright target for being white. My wife and I are in the twilight of our years so it doesn't matter nearly as much to us. We would not move away from them and will always choose to enjoy our final years with them even in the moral, political and economic sh*thole that the U.S. society is becoming. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Did I say that? No. You are just making stuff up.
This one could care less about getting in the last word as he only shows up every couple of days to dump a few tidbits of dung. He's probably a regular at TOS.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
And you were expecting....... ??? “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I know a guy who "claims" to go there in the winter for a month or so when business slows down, says he enjoys himself and it's dirt cheap. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
RLK: Americans need to shift their realistic views on runamok pathology to accept gay marriage.
Ouch, this is going to leave a mark. Put some ice on it and call me in the morning. "A new poll from TransferWise shows that 35 percent of those born in the United States would consider ditching their home country to live elsewhere; that number skyrockets among those aged 18-34, the so-called millennials, 55 percent of whom said they would think of taking off if given the chance." потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
0blabla:
#2. To: lana, SOSO, Pericles, sneakypete, Jameson (#0)
A post at the conservative blog Chicks on the Right posted it's translation of 0buma's comments.
"All you crazy religious people who believe in traditional marriage need to change your beliefs! They're holding you back from joining up with the rest of us super-smart people who aren't burdened by those pesky moral standards given to you by a Higher Power. We know soooooo much better than you and we certainly know soooooo much better than God! Drop the religion crap already...
#3. To: Liberator, ALL (#2)
#4. To: lana (#0)
#5. To: lana (#0)
Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage
#6. To: lana (#0)
Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage
#7. To: GarySpFC (#3)
It appears society has determined the only sin is racism.
#8. To: GarySpFC (#3)
It appears society has determined the only sin is racism. Furthermore, they have determined the God of the Bible is dead. They are going to have a difficult job eliminating the eternal fires of hell.
#9. To: sneakypete (#6)
" Somebody should slap that ignorant SOB up side his nappy head and splain to him he ain't the freaking King and he doesn't get to tell his "subjects" what they can and can not believe. "
#10. To: lana (#0)
" Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage "
#11. To: Liberator (#1)
America: An absolute disgrace from seas to shining sea; an effete nation of cowards (Holder was right.) America IS at the Salton Sea stage of its existence.
#12. To: lana (#0)
Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage
#13. To: lana (#0)
Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage
#14. To: Justified (#13)
Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage
#15. To: Jameson (#11)
really, we still live in the greatest nation on earth!
#16. To: Justified (#13)
I think Obama shifts his opinion enough for everyone!
#17. To: CZ82 (#16)
#18. To: lana (#0)
" Obama: Americans need to shift religious views to accept gay marriage "
#19. To: Jameson (#11)
the USA is still the best place to call home!
#20. To: Jameson (#11)
Maybe we should all be thankful that we have the rights to disagree and debate.....
Of course, on the other hand....what are you to do now? Will you renounce your citizenship and settle elsewhere?
Or what?
#21. To: lana (#0)
lit up in the colors of the gay rainbow flag
#22. To: Jameson (#11)
we still live in the greatest nation on earth!
#23. To: Jameson (#11)
Of course, on the other hand....what are you to do now?
#24. To: Jameson (#11)
Ok sure, I understand that there are some folks who are ready to have their heads explode, but in reality the USA is still the best place to call home!
#25. To: A K A Stone (#22)
The definition of the greatest nation on earth can't be a nation that thinks queers are anything other then abnormal losers that are also stupid.
#26. To: sneakypete (#25)
after the war,and he lost his job and pretty much everything he had worked for because of it
#27. To: A K A Stone (#26)
(Edited)
after the war,and he lost his job and pretty much everything he had worked for because of it
#28. To: sneakypete (#27)
You are a sick puppy,Stone.
#29. To: A K A Stone (#28)
I don't give a shit about some dead faggot.
#30. To: A K A Stone, sneakypete (#26)
The English mathematician that broke the Nazi Enigma codes during WW-2 was a homosexual
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#31. To: Deckard (#30)
#32. To: Deckard (#30)
Say - you aren't part of the "God Hates Fags" clan, are you?
#33. To: Deckard (#30)
Say - you aren't part of the "God Hates Fags" clan, are you?
#34. To: A K A Stone (#32)
God certainly hates homosexuality.
#35. To: sneakypete (#34)
#36. To: sneakypete, A K A Stone (#34)
(Edited)
Can you please point me to the part of the Bible where it says God hates homosexuals?
#37. To: A K A Stone (#32)
God certainly hates homosexuality.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#38. To: Deckard (#37)
#39. To: GrandIsland (#33)
Say - you aren't part of the "God Hates Fags" clan, are you?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#40. To: Deckard (#39)
I don't advocate killing them.
#41. To: Deckard (#39)
(Edited)
I don't advocate killing them.
#42. To: A K A Stone, Fred Mertz (#40)
I don't advocate killing them.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#43. To: Deckard (#42)
A cursory search turned up at least one instance of you advocating killing gays.
#44. To: A K A Stone (#35)
Go back and learn to read you f'n moron.
#45. To: GrandIsland (#36)
surely you realize that Mother Nature hates fags.
#46. To: Deckard (#37)
God certainly hates homosexuality.
#47. To: GrandIsland (#41)
Quit your YELLA bullshit. I never said anything about "killing"... I accused you of DEFENDING.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#48. To: sneakypete (#46)
God certainly hates homosexuality.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#49. To: sneakypete (#46)
#50. To: Don (#49)
Is it possible for a parent to love a child and dislike some things the child might do.
#51. To: sneakypete (#50)
It's possible for a parent to love a child and hate everything they do.
#52. To: Deckard, A K A Stone, sneakypete (#30)
The English mathematician that broke the Nazi Enigma codes during WW-2 ...
#53. To: Gatlin (#52)
I thought it was Polish cryptologists who in 1932 first discovered ways of deciphering Enigma.
#54. To: A K A Stone (#51)
It's possible for a parent to love a child and hate everything they do.
#55. To: sneakypete (#53)
(Edited)
Then the Royal Navy managed to capture a Nazi U-boat and board it before it sank to save the code books and the code machine.
#56. To: sneakypete (#54)
#57. To: cranko (#19)
How many countries have you been in and how much time have you spent in each?
#58. To: A K A Stone (#22)
(Edited)
The definition of the greatest nation on earth
#59. To: sneakypete (#54)
#60. To: lana, TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator, Vicomte13, BobCeleste, CZ82 (#0)
A post at the conservative blog Chicks on the Right posted it's translation of Obama's comments. "All you crazy religious people who believe in traditional marriage need to change your beliefs!" the blog said. "They're holding you back from joining up with the rest of us super-smart people who aren't burdened by those pesky moral standards given to you by a Higher Power. We know soooooo much better than you and we certainly know soooooo much better than God! Drop the religion crap already and come join us in supporting something you find morally repugnant! Give it time - you'll get over it soon enough!"
#61. To: Don (#59)
Pete, God can and does hate.
#62. To: redleghunter, lana, TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator, Vicomte13, BobCeleste, CZ82 (#60)
Well those ladies are right in their translation.
#63. To: sneakypete, Jameson (#24)
Ok sure, I understand that there are some folks who are ready to have their heads explode, but in reality the USA is still the best place to call home!
#64. To: SOSO (#63)
Australia might be a better place to live and raise a family these days.
#65. To: sneakypete (#64)
would seriously look at places in Asia and S. America as well.
#66. To: SOSO (#65)
(Edited)
but an anglo foreigner that can speak the language probably could live a relatively pleasant life
#67. To: sneakypete (#66)
Truth to tell,white people are more welcome these days in Asia than they are America.
#68. To: sneakypete (#66)
BTW,I was considering a future move to Russia after the collapse of the USSR. Then the Russians were robbed blind by the Clinton Administration as well as by (mostly) German industrialists,and Putin replaced Yeltsin and the friendly atmosphere towards Americans took a major chill.
#69. To: lana (#0)
"But today should also give us hope that on the many issues with which we grapple often painfully real change is possible,”
#70. To: Lenny (#15)
"...we still live in the greatest nation on earth!..."
#71. To: cranko (#19)
How many countries have you been in and how much time have you spent in each?
#72. To: Rufus T Firefly (#20)
"Hey, it's still better than Kenya or Somalia."
#73. To: A K A Stone (#22)
The definition of the greatest nation on earth can't be a nation that thinks queers are anything other then abnormal losers that are also stupid.
#74. To: A K A Stone (#23)
Of course, on the other hand....what are you to do now?
#75. To: sneakypete (#24)
IMHO that is more of a statement on the sorry situation in other countries all around the world than it is a tribute to America.
#76. To: Jameson (#73)
(Edited)
I see, anti-American.....
#77. To: SOSO (#63)
If I were a younger man with no school aged children I would be seriously thinking about moving out of the U.S.
#78. To: Jameson (#77)
(Edited)
#79. To: A K A Stone (#76)
Listen piece of shit. Call me anti American again and your're banned. I don't like you.
#80. To: Jameson (#79)
(Edited)
#81. To: Jameson (#79)
#82. To: Jameson (#75)
But things are looking up - 4th of July weekend coming up!!!
#83. To: A K A Stone (#76)
#84. To: Jameson (#74)
Not really very productive, or very Christ-Like......
#85. To: TheFireBert (#69)
"Why can't we just all get along (and be gay with me)? You won't know if you like until you have tried it... ;) "
#86. To: sneakypete (#66)
The Japanese have arrested and given stiff prison sentences to a proportionately high number of American blacks for beating,raping,and even murdering Japanese women. I know of two cases where the US government tried to intervene and arrange for the convicts to serve their time in US prisons,and the Japanese basically told them to piss off.
#87. To: Jameson (#72)
Hey, it's still better than Kenya or Somalia."
#88. To: Liberator (#82)
Not expectedly, the significance of this day is a just a "party" for you.
#89. To: Rufus T Firefly (#87)
"Hey, it's still better than Kenya or Somalia."
#90. To: Jameson (#88)
#91. To: Rufus T Firefly, Jameson (#87)
That America is gone, and the hill has been replaced by a dung heap.
#92. To: Jameson (#89)
#93. To: Jameson, A K A Stone (#88)
#94. To: Liberator (#82)
This is America's Independence Day.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#95. To: Liberator, Jameson (#91)
For Jameson, the more flies and maggots buzzing, the "shinier" the dung-hill.
#96. To: Deckard (#94)
#97. To: Rufus T Firefly, tomder55, liberator, GarySpFc, CZ82 (#95)
Whatever one's concept of "America" is - overvall, have we advanced, or declined?
#98. To: Rufus T Firefly, Jameson (#95)
What I'm trying to get his or her viewpoint on is simple -
#99. To: Rufus T Firefly, Jameson, redleghunter (#92)
Thanks for the history lesson.
#100. To: Rufus T Firefly (#87)
The phrase entered the American lexicon early in its history, in the Puritan John Winthrop's 1630 sermon "A Model of Christian Charity". Still aboard the ship Arbella, Winthrop admonished the future Massachusetts Bay colonists that their new community would be "as a city upon a hill", watched by the world — which became the ideal the New England colonists placed upon their hilly capital city, Boston.[1] The Puritans' community in New England would set an example of communal charity, affection, and unity to the world, or if the Puritans failed to uphold their covenant of God, "we shall be made a story and a by-word through the world" of God's judgement. Winthrop's sermon gave rise to the widespread belief in American folklore that the United States of America is God's country because metaphorically it is a Shining City upon a Hill, an early example of American exceptionalism.
#101. To: TooConservative (#100)
#102. To: Liberator, CZ82 (#91)
#103. To: redleghunter, CZ82 (#102)
(Edited)
#104. To: Liberator, CZ82, TooConservative, GarySpFc, A K A Stone, BobCeleste, Don (#103)
#105. To: Jameson, Rufus T Firefly (#89)
"...Reagan referred to the USA as a ". . . . shining city on a hill"
#106. To: Liberator (#101)
Odds of 0blabla referring to America as a "Shining City upon a Hill":
#107. To: sneakypete (#105)
They were Reagans in the example given because they were a key part of the speech he made.
#108. To: Liberator, AKA Stone (#93)
#109. To: Rufus T Firefly (#92)
is America still a shining city on a hill?
#110. To: Jameson (#109)
#111. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#102)
#112. To: Jameson (#71)
(Edited)
This is my opinion, (which is shared my most Americans)
#113. To: Jameson (#77)
If you really believed that there were a better place to live than the USA, you would do everything in your power to go there.
#114. To: TooConservative (#107)
They were all cribbing from Augustine's The City of God, considered his greatest work.
#115. To: Rufus T Firefly (#110)
The America you described gradually ceased to exist, starting probably 50 years ago (or more.)
#116. To: sneakypete (#61)
#117. To: Don (#116)
#118. To: SOSO (#113)
do you know how to read? What part of "If I were a younger man with no school aged children...
#119. To: cranko (#112)
Yes, ignorant people often make absurd assertions because they don't have the facts.
#120. To: Liberator (#82)
Btw -- ready to crack open the bubbly for the new national holiday -- 'LBGT Day'?
#121. To: Jameson, Liberator, redleghunter (#109)
The future is bright.
#122. To: Liberator (#98)
I'd assume a good little God-less, socialist transgender-whatever troll like Jameson would consider ANY wreckage of America to be "advancement."
#123. To: Jameson (#122)
It's boring to read adolescent attempts at insults coming from some bitter old hump like you.
#124. To: CZ82 (#120)
What is that going to consist of other than pinching a loaf out in the back yard while the neighbors are walking by???
#125. To: CZ82, Jameson, redleghunter (#121)
Jameson: "The future is bright....We continue to evolve as a culture and grow as a society."
"Are you a dung beetle??"
#126. To: Jameson, cranko (#119)
There aren't any laws in China prohibiting smoking in restaurants, bars, and office buildings. On and on and on...
#127. To: redleghunter (#104)
#128. To: Liberator, Jameson (#125)
#129. To: sneakypete (#106)
I expect to see birds flying backwards before that happens.
#130. To: Liberator, Jameson (#126)
#131. To: CZ82, sneakypete (#128)
He's also beginning to sound like meguro!
#132. To: CZ82, Jameson (#130)
#133. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#111)
It's "IMPOSSIBLE" for a Leftard to be happy, they're too stupid!!!!!!!
#134. To: Rufus T Firefly, Jameson, redleghunter, CZ82 (#110)
When the Founders created for posterity a "CONTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC" they assumed there would always be a pool of statesmen to draw from. Statesmen who would lead (not stick their moist finger to the wind). Statesmen who would take the long view - sometimes doing the unpopular thing. Instead we are infested at all levels of government (and now the courts) with politicians.
#135. To: Jameson (#118)
If you really believed that there were a better place to live than the USA, you would do everything in your power to go there.
#136. To: Jameson (#119)
yeah, we would all be better off if we were more like china...right?
#137. To: Liberator, Too Conservative (#131)
#138. To: cranko (#136)
You are just making stuff up.
#139. To: Liberator (#132)
Aaaah, China
#140. To: lana (#0)
Obama: Americans need to shift their religious views to accept gay marriage
#141. To: Jameson (#118)
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