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Title: Supreme Court extends same-sex marriage nationwide (declares States Rights void)
Source: AP
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2015-06-26-10-02-52
Published: Jun 26, 2015
Author: MARK SHERMAN
Post Date: 2015-06-26 10:42:11 by Hondo68
Keywords: Log Cabin Republicans, severely conservative, Mitt wins!
Views: 1205
Comments: 19

AP Photo
Carlos McKnight of Washington, waves a flag in support of gay marriage outside of the Supreme Court in Washington, Friday June 26, 2015. A major opinion on gay marriage is among the remaining to be released before the term ends at the end of June. (AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin)

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court declared Friday that same-sex couples have a right to marry anywhere in the United States.

Gay and lesbian couples already could marry in 36 states and the District of Columbia. The court's 5-4 ruling means the remaining 14 states, in the South and Midwest, will have to stop enforcing their bans on same-sex marriage.

The outcome is the culmination of two decades of Supreme Court litigation over marriage, and gay rights generally.

Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote the majority opinion, just as he did in the court's previous three major gay rights cases dating back to 1996. It came on the anniversary of two of those earlier decisions.

"No union is more profound than marriage," Kennedy wrote, joined by the court's four more liberal justices.

The four dissenting justices each filed a separate opinion explaining their views.

"But this court is not a legislature. Whether same-sex marriage is a good idea should be of no concern to us," Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in dissent. Roberts read a summary of his dissent from the bench, the first time he has done so in nearly 10 years as chief justice.

Justice Antonin Scalia said he is not concerned so much about same-sex marriage, but about "this court's threat to American democracy." Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas also dissented.

The ruling will not take effect immediately because the court gives the losing side roughly three weeks to ask for reconsideration. But some state officials and county clerks might decide there is little risk in issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

The cases before the court involved laws from Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio and Tennessee that define marriage as the union of a man and a woman. Those states have not allowed same-sex couples to marry within their borders and they also have refused to recognize valid marriages from elsewhere.

Just two years ago, the Supreme Court struck down part of the federal anti-gay marriage law that denied a range of government benefits to legally married same-sex couples.

The decision in United States v. Windsor did not address the validity of state marriage bans, but courts across the country, with few exceptions, said its logic compelled them to invalidate state laws that prohibited gay and lesbian couples from marrying.

The number of states allowing same-sex marriage has grown rapidly. As recently as October, just over one-third of the states permitted same-sex marriage.

There are an estimated 390,000 married same-sex couples in the United States, according to UCLA's Williams Institute, which tracks the demographics of gay and lesbian Americans. Another 70,000 couples living in states that do not currently permit them to wed would get married in the next three years, the institute says. Roughly 1 million same-sex couples, married and unmarried, live together in the United States, the institute says.

The Obama administration backed the right of same-sex couples to marry. The Justice Department's decision to stop defending the federal anti-marriage law in 2011 was an important moment for gay rights and President Barack Obama declared his support for same-sex marriage in 2012.(2 images)

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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

Supreme Court...

Already posted.

Geezzze, blithering idiot....can you ever wake TFU?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-26   11:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

" Supreme Court extends same-sex marriage nationwide (declares States Rights void) "

And the nation sinks a little further.

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-06-26   11:09:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: hondo68 (#0)

"But this court is not a legislature…" Chief Justice Jon Roberts wrote in dissent.

The day after he legislated ObamaCare from the bench.

This is what you get when you vote Republicans: Kennedys and Robertses, over and over and over again.

Republican voters never learn.

"No, you can't teach a Sneech." - Dr. Seuss

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-06-26   11:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: hondo68 (#0)

Well, States can stop issuing licenses altogether, leaving marriage definition up to churches. From there, states can simply enforce civil contracts, and if a gay couple wants to set up contracts that give partners rights to property, medical decisions and such, the the state has no interest, moral or otherwise, to say no.

This is a great opportunity for states to get out of the marriage business, which they should never have gotten into by issuing marriage licenses in the first place.

Pinguinite  posted on  2015-06-26   13:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Vicomte13, liberator, Nolu Chan, TooConservative, GarySpFc, tomder55 (#3)

At one time each state selected their US Senators. That changed. This appointment deal for life for SCOTUS has run its evil course. No man or woman should have that much power. Our founders provided checks and balances to a society which fought against tyranny. Now the very system is corrupt by a corrupt society.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-26   13:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter, justices are appointed for, a term of good behavior, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#5)

This appointment deal for life for SCOTUS

That is not true. Justices are appointed for "a term of good behavior". Congress should be removing the scofflaws, but they're loyal to the good ol' boys 'n gals club (D&R Crime Syndicate).

The bad justices remaining on the court, are due to bad congress critters, IOW Republicans and Democrats.

The voters have chosen to ignore the Constitution and rule of law, and support a tyrannical banana republic(an) form of government.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-06-26   14:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: hondo68 (#0)

This is a great decision, I support same gender marriage.

Intelligent humans should respect and protect non-human intelligent beings. Never kill or enslave dolphins
~ Mike McCarthy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2015-06-26   14:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

This is a great decision, I support same gender marriage.

That's because you're an idiot. Didn't your mother ever tell you?

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-26   14:32:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

This is a great decision

You need government permission to get married? What else should we need to ask permission to do? Flatulence permit and tax, for passing gas?

It's none of the government's business who you marry. Just do it, and quit trying to force people to endorse your choice, bake you a queer cake, etc...

Hondo68  posted on  2015-06-26   14:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: redleghunter (#5)

" At one time each state selected their US Senators. That changed. " We should go back to that!

" This appointment deal for life for SCOTUS has run its evil course. No man or woman should have that much power. " No Federal Judge should be appointed for life!

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Stoner  posted on  2015-06-26   14:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#9)

Marriage is part of the legal framework other rights and responsibilities are hung on. It was a just decision in the context of what the ruling was about.

What you talk about here is a change at the basic level of law about many things.

Intelligent humans should respect and protect non-human intelligent beings. Never kill or enslave dolphins
~ Mike McCarthy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2015-06-26   14:54:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

Hey man, long time no see. How are you? I'm the same as usual.

Do you know how Murron is doing? A private reply will suffice. Thanks.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-06-26   15:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Fred Mertz (#12)

Good to see you Fred. I have been busy and have not been doing forums. I'm doing great. Just learned about Sally's passing today. Thanks for the ping.

Intelligent humans should respect and protect non-human intelligent beings. Never kill or enslave dolphins
~ Mike McCarthy

Ferret Mike  posted on  2015-06-26   16:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Ferret Mike (#13)

Just now learning that? Wow. I should give up forums for six months and see the rest of the beautiful world.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2015-06-26   16:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ferret Mike (#7)

This is a great decision,

Yes,it is.

I support same gender marriage.

I support equal treatment for all Americans under the law. Even ones I don't personally agree with or approve of.

Anything less is anti-American.

BTW,good to see you back again,Mike.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-26   17:48:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Stoner (#2)

And the nation sinks a little further.

How is treating all Americans equal and recognizing their rights an indication the nation is "sinking"?

Personally i think the list of presidential candidates is proof it has already sank.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-26   17:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Pinguinite (#4)

This is a great opportunity for states to get out of the marriage business,

Not a chance. You are asking them to give up power as well as a bureaucracy and source of income.

Neva hoppin,GI!

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-26   17:57:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hondo68 (#9)

You need government permission to get married?

Well,prior to today,yes,you did.

You never heard about this? it was in ALL the papers.

It's none of the government's business who you marry. Just do it,

Are you high? Fallen and hurt your head? You can NOT marry without a marriage permit issued by the local authorities,and the local authorities in most cases refused to issue them to homosexual couples.

WTH did you think this whole big argument has been about,anyway?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-26   18:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#5)

This appointment deal for life for SCOTUS has run its evil course.

yes . btw the only justice of SC to be impeached was Samuel Chase. Jefferson want to rid the country of his services. He was impeached for allowing his partisan leanings to affect his decisions . The Senate voted to acquit Chase of all charges . Since then associate justices have had virtual immunity even when there was no doubt about certain justices incompetence.

It would take an Amendment to put term limits on SCOTUS . There is no way the traditional way of getting amendments would get the job done. But if there was an Article 5 "application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states," .... to "call a convention for proposing amendments",perhaps the course of the country could be righted . My father was saying that 25 years ago . Every day it makes more sense .

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-06-26   19:51:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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