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Title: Supreme Court extends same-sex marriage nationwide
Source: AP
URL Source: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie ... AULT&CTIME=2015-06-26-10-02-52
Published: Jun 26, 2015
Author: AP staff
Post Date: 2015-06-26 10:23:13 by redleghunter
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Views: 8056
Comments: 101

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court declared Friday that same-sex couples have a right to marry anywhere in the United States.

Gay and lesbian couples already could marry in 36 states and the District of Columbia. The court's 5-4 ruling means the remaining 14 states, in the South and Midwest, will have to stop enforcing their bans on same-sex marriage.

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#61. To: nolu chan (#58)

Roberts dissent at 19-20:

The truth is that today’s decision rests on nothing more than the majority’sown conviction that same-sex couples should be allowed to marry because they want to, and that “it would disparage their choices and diminish their personhood to deny themthis right.” Ante, at 19. Whatever force that belief may have as a matter of moral philosophy, it has no more basis in the Constitution than did the naked policy preferences adopted in Lochner. See 198 U. S., at 61 (“We do not believe in the soundness of the views which uphold thislaw,” which “is an illegal interference with the rights ofindividuals . . . to make contracts regarding labor upon such terms as they may think best”).

Where was his clear reasoning earlier in the week.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-26   22:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: redleghunter, All (#24)

I cannot argue your approach as GOP presidents DID appoint the left leaning justices. The other question is how long can Catholic bishops keep giving communion to the 6 justices who are Roman Catholic?

Ask the Pope. Then again, who is he to judge?

Did Pope Francis really tell a divorced woman to take Communion?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-26   22:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#60)

The common denominator about the USSC decision is simple to understand: the government owns the institution of marriage and not religious institutions or considerations. The result allows anyone to marry just about anyone along as they are of legal age and pass a blood test which is simple to perform at the state level.

There has never been a federal marriage license. It has always been a state affair and the claim of federal constitutional authority to dictate a federal definition of marriage is on very shaky grounds.

I think they did away with blood tests.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-27   2:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: nolu chan (#39)

"Held: The Fourteenth Amendment requires a State to license a marriage between two people of the same sex"

The 14th amendment limits marriage to "two people"? Where? Seems to me the equal protection clause would allow three people to marry. Or any number.

Incestual marriages would be allowed under equal protection, along with child marriges.

This decision is going to turn into another Roe v Wade -- never to be settled -- because it should have been decided by the people, not the court.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-27   9:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: nolu chan (#63) (Edited)

The court is saying that a chosen sexual lifestyle entitles an individual to the 14th amendment right of Equal Protection, and every state must comply.

I see a major problem developing. Society (the people) can no longer set moral standards.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-27   9:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: misterwhite (#65)

I see a major problem developing. Society (the people) can no longer set moral standards.

Developing? LOL..

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   9:15:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Liberator, Vicomte13 (#44)

"compassionate conservatives," aka FAKE conservatives.

Describes most of the Pubbie party.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   9:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#9)

Supreme Court extends same-sex marriage nationwide

This turned out pretty much like I envisioned another mess to be cleaned up when "common sense" people are put in charge again. The problem with that is it probably won't happen during my lifetime.

History is a repeating cycle good rules for awhile then sooner or later evil takes over again, wash, rinse, repeat.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   9:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: redleghunter, Liberator (#13)

I give it three months, if that, before the gay lobby finds ways to sue churches who refuse to 'marry' gays. The law suits are coming no matter what people say is 'impossible' because of the 1st Amendment. This court does not care for the letter of the law as we saw this week with Obolocare. They will find a way to make the 14th amendment interpret the 1st. They will do the same with the 2nd amendment too. The 10th amendment was just scrapped with this decision and the obolocare decision.

I don't think it will take that long, $5 says there are some out there that have already been filed, even though they had no standing then they do now.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   9:40:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#68)

....when "common sense" people are put in charge again. The problem with that is it probably won't happen during my lifetime.

My initial thought exactly.

It's over. But not without a brawl.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-27   11:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: CZ82, Vicomte13 (#67)

"compassionate conservatives," aka FAKE conservatives.

Describes most of the Pubbie party.

A good half I'd say.

The biggest problem are the Puppetmeisters and so-called "leadership," which are part One-Worlder globalist, part closet Dem, and part statist-fascist. They bully, threaten, and coerce the weak members and control the agenda and direction of the GOP (straight into the handbasket into Hell.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-27   11:27:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator (#70)

You mean one of those bar stool swinging brawls? :)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   11:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Liberator (#70)

It's over. But not without a brawl.

I was just going to a Christian church to pray for America ... but your post caught my eye.

What are Americans going to do?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-06-27   11:45:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: CZ82 (#72)

You mean one of those bar stool swinging brawls? :)

In my wildest dreams ;-)

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-27   11:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: buckeroo, CZ82, redleghunter (#73) (Edited)

I was just going to a Christian church to pray for America ...

Amen, BUCK!! (But you mean after your ring-around-the-rosie 'round the Ol' Oak Tree?)

What are Americans going to do?

1/3 will celebrate the demise of America, 1/3 will passively await for orders to receive the Mark of the Beast and FEMA Camp number, and the other 1/3 will pray before tossing around barstools and breaking bottles.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-27   11:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Liberator (#71)

A good half I'd say.

I have no doubt that if the "good half' stood tall and said no to "the faux conservative agenda" their voting constituency would reward them. It would also bring more of what the "faux conservatives" are doing out into the light for other voters to peruse, and hopefully they would take it out on them at the ballot box. I've never believed in the 3rd party rhetoric!!

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   12:01:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Liberator (#74)

Last time I was in one of those was when I was 17 and was at the Garage Nightclub in New Carlisle, Ohio. Place has long since closed but that was one ass wild night.

It all started because of some sore ass losers at the pool tables didn't want to pay up their side bets after the pool tournament was over with. Needless to say that was the last time we ever got invited to attend one of their tournaments. Even though we didn't start the brawl we still walked out with all the money!! :)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   12:15:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: CZ82 (#76) (Edited)

I have no doubt that if the "good half' stood tall and said no to "the faux conservative agenda" their voting constituency would reward them.

It would also bring more of what the "faux conservatives" are doing out into the light for other voters to peruse, and hopefully they would take it out on them at the ballot box. I've never believed in the 3rd party rhetoric!!

The ballot box -- a huge part of our problem has been the cliched "Voting for the Lesser of Two Evils." This has been the case since Reagan left. THESE are the Pubbies who've taken over the Party, ruined the brand, the party, and the core platform.

Given all that, the GOP still does control most of the state house legislatures and governorships. People must still believe in their core principles (unfortunately long since abandoned by most reps.) Doesn't seem to translate into more conservative policies and agenda though, does it?

Unlike the Dems (who seem to maintain a unified focus and monolithic goal) the GOP spans too much of the political spectrum and is too diluted to focus on a common goal. It itself has been divided & conquers as a party. THIS is our primary problem. Ergo, our wishes for true representation (through no fault of our own) has been short-circuited. Our agenda, a conservative agenda has fallen in the hands of a subversive, corrupt faux Republican leadership. They are painfully and obviously puppets controlled by external anti-America overlords....

UNTIL these puppetmeister-overlords are exposed, I can't see the GOP turning things around on its own soon -- do you? And no, we don't have enough time or energy to establish a viable Third Party. If this were a game of chess, we've been Check-Mated.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-27   12:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: CZ82 (#77)

Last time I was in one of those was when I was 17 and was at the Garage Nightclub in New Carlisle, Ohio. Place has long since closed but that was one ass wild night....

Lol...HEY! Who's ID did you use, kid??!? Musta been a Friday night, full moon, everybody was just paid.

It all started because of some sore ass losers at the pool tables didn't want to pay up their side bets after the pool tournament was over with. Needless to say that was the last time we ever got invited to attend one of their tournaments. Even though we didn't start the brawl we still walked out with all the money!! :)

NOT gonna pay after losing? Doesn't usually end well. Good times ;-) Aaaah -- the wild, the innocent, and the E Street shuffle (Springsteen album reference.)

Cops wind up arriving? Did you go back the next week?

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-27   12:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Liberator (#75)

(But you mean after your ring-around-the-rosie 'round the Ol' Oak Tree?)

yeah ... somethin' like that.

buckeroo  posted on  2015-06-27   18:33:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Liberator (#79)

Lol...HEY! Who's ID did you use, kid??!? Musta been a Friday night, full moon, everybody was just paid.

Cops wind up arriving? Did you go back the next week?

I was in there with my Dad he used to own his own bar and all of the bar/club owners seemed to know each other back then. So as long as I only drank water/pop it was alright, I went in there many times over the years.

Also a lot of the bars sponsored a pool tournament periodically to give the guys something to do during the winter months and also fodder for bragging rights as the best pool shot. Needless to say after that night it got curtailed quite a bit cause it started to attract an out of town rougher than normal crowd. (Always some asshole gotta spoil the fun). :(

Heck the places I go to now allow kids in to eat and play video games all the time, no big deal. The one I go to the most has a police station about 100yds down the street, so needless to say it's a safe place for families. And the cops leave you alone no hiding on the outskirts of town waiting to catch you DUI. They share a kitchen with a carry out pizza place so the food is really good, may not be DDD quality food (Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives) but good nevertheless.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-27   19:04:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Liberator (#78)

I can't see the GOP turning things around on its own soon -- do you?

Not voluntarily.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   9:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Liberator (#78)

People must still believe in their core principles (unfortunately long since abandoned by most reps.) Doesn't seem to translate into more conservative policies and agenda though, does it?

Just don't have the right people in the right places, we have faux conservatives in the wrong places.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-28   9:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: CZ82, Chuck_Wagon (#81)

I was in there with my Dad he used to own his own bar and all of the bar/club owners seemed to know each other back then. So as long as I only drank water/pop it was alright, I went in there many times over the years.

Also a lot of the bars sponsored a pool tournament periodically to give the guys something to do during the winter months and also fodder for bragging rights as the best pool shot. Needless to say after that night it got curtailed quite a bit cause it started to attract an out of town rougher than normal crowd. (Always some asshole gotta spoil the fun). :(

Kinda cool. Only you and Pop sharing that? Good memories, eh?

Yeah, eventually the outta towners swoop in, the stakes get dangerous high, and it's no longer "recreation"; It's about "manhood" (for the insecure.) Fun: RUINED. Like pool.

The places I go to now allow kids in to eat and play video games all the time, no big deal. The one I go to the most has a police station about 100yds down the street, so needless to say it's a safe place for families. And the cops leave you alone no hiding on the outskirts of town waiting to catch you DUI. They share a kitchen with a carry out pizza place so the food is really good, may not be DDD quality food (Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives) but good nevertheless.

Small-town, normal USA. Decent food, regular crowd. Glad they still exist. Now IF you do find a DDD to hang out at (and it's in Jersey) let me and Chuck know. ALL these great places seem to be a thousand miles away from us :-(

Btw -- Knew of a couple in Indiana who spent their entire 2-week vacation visiting DDDs (they had THE BOOK and MAPS!)

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-28   17:14:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: CZ82 (#82)

Nope, the odds of the GOP pulling a Lazarus is slim and none. Even IF the right people do what has to be done.

The GOP brand died with Reagan. The day Poppy Bush announced his BS "Compassionate Conservativism" meme was THE day you knew he was shoveling the dirt on the Gipper's grave, and the "Republican Party" getting sabotaged. The day Poppy announced his "New World Order" meme was the day you knew America's funeral was already planned.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-28   17:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: CZ82, redleghunter (#83)

Just don't have the right people in the right places, we have faux conservatives in the wrong places.

HA! Succinctly put.

(Why can't the GOP have a plan like the Houston Astros??

Given up for dead...A laughing stock. NOW look at 'em. Trying to crush Texas, the Angels and the rest of the West. Hardly recognize 'em (as the Yanks were lucky just to split.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-28   17:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Liberator (#86)

Why can't the GOP have a plan like the Houston Astros??

You mean like the Texas Rangers? It seems that there is only room for one good team in Texas at a time.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-28   17:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: misterwhite (#64)

Syllabus of Obergefell v Hodges.

Held: The Fourteenth Amendment requires a State to license a marriage between two people of the same sex [and to recognize a marriage between two people of the same sex when their marriage was lawfully licensed and performed out-of-State. Pp 3-28.]

The 14th amendment limits marriage to "two people"? Where? Seems to me the equal protection clause would allow three people to marry. Or any number.

The Court did not say the 14th Amendment limits marriage to "two people." In saying a license had to be issued to two people of the same sex, it said nothing of three or more people.

At my #52, I opined that,

It is difficult to see why the federal definition of marriage would not extend to plural marriage. The right of same-sex marriage arises from no historical precedent. Plural marriage has biblical precedent and multinational precedent, including U.S. precedent. Any legal basis for the imposition of a federal definition of marriage to include same-sex marriage would seem to support a claim for plural marriage. Why would denial of same-sex marriage be unconstitutional discrimination, but denial of plural marriage not be unconstitutional discrimination?

Does a mixed sex trio not have the same concerns about hospital visitation rights, inheritance rights, and the right to express their love for one another?

After reviewing the dissenting opinions, I saw that Chief Justice Roberts expressed a similar concern.

Roberts at 20:

One immediate question invited by the majority’s posi­tion is whether States may retain the definition of mar­riage as a union of two people. Cf. Brown v. Buhman, 947 F. Supp. 2d 1170 (Utah 2013), appeal pending, No. 14­4117 (CA10). Although the majority randomly inserts the adjective “two” in various places, it offers no reason at all why the two-person element of the core definition of mar­riage may be preserved while the man-woman element may not. Indeed, from the standpoint of history and tradi­tion, a leap from opposite-sex marriage to same-sex mar­riage is much greater than one from a two-person union to plural unions, which have deep roots in some cultures around the world. If the majority is willing to take the big leap, it is hard to see how it can say no to the shorter one.

It is striking how much of the majority’s reasoning would apply with equal force to the claim of a fundamental right to plural marriage. If “[t]here is dignity in the bond between two men or two women who seek to marry and in their autonomy to make such profound choices,” ante, at 13, why would there be any less dignity in the bond be­tween three people who, in exercising their autonomy, seek to make the profound choice to marry? If a same-sex couple has the constitutional right to marry because their children would otherwise “suffer the stigma of knowing their families are somehow lesser,” ante, at 15, why wouldn’t the same reasoning apply to a family of three or more persons raising children? If not having the opportunity to marry “serves to disrespect and subordinate” gay and lesbian couples, why wouldn’t the same “imposition of this disability,” ante, at 22, serve to disrespect and subor­dinate people who find fulfillment in polyamorous rela­tionships? See Bennett, Polyamory: The Next Sexual Revolution? Newsweek, July 28, 2009 (estimating 500,000 polyamorous families in the United States); Li, Married Lesbian “Throuple” Expecting First Child, N. Y. Post, Apr. 23, 2014; Otter, Three May Not Be a Crowd: The Case for a Constitutional Right to Plural Marriage, 64 Emory L. J.1977 (2015).

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-29   2:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: nolu chan (#88)

"It is difficult to see why the federal definition of marriage would not extend to plural marriage."

Or incestual marriage.

Now that the federal government is defining marriage, what will be the nationwide age of consent? In Alabama, it's 14 (with parental consent).

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-29   8:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: nolu chan (#88)

Activist courts have used the 14th amendment to apply constitutionally protected rights (eg., free speech in the first amendmnent) to the states.

In this decision, are they saying the right to gay marriage was also found in the 14th amendment?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-29   10:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Liberator, Chuck_Wagon (#84)

Small-town, normal USA. Decent food, regular crowd. Glad they still exist. Now IF you do find a DDD to hang out at (and it's in Jersey) let me and Chuck know. ALL these great places seem to be a thousand miles away from us :-(

Here check this out...

http://www.flavortownusa.com/states/

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-29   13:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Liberator (#84)

It's about "manhood" (for the insecure.) Fun: RUINED.

Yea some of the side bets were up around $100 and this was 40 years ago..

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-29   13:41:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: misterwhite (#89)

In Alabama, it's 14 (with parental consent).

California: 18, no minimum with approval of a superior court judge and parental consent.

New Hampshire: 18, 14 for males and 13 for females, in cases of "special cause" with parental consent and court permission.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-29   17:33:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: misterwhite (#90)

In this decision, are they saying the right to gay marriage was also found in the 14th amendment?

They said the right of same-sex couples is "fundamental" ... according to their "reasoned judgment." That can apply to anything that is found in the enlightened "reasoned judgment" of five of nine.

I posted the full text of Scalia's dissent here on another thread.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-29   17:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: CZ82 (#91) (Edited)

Small-town, normal USA. Decent food, regular crowd.

Palace Diner in Berlin, NJ - just off of (1/4 mile)
route 73 - where the Berlin Circle USED to be.
It's the biggest intersection in Berlin - look at
mapquest.

It's owned by a family of Greek folks. They serve mostly
Italian food. The reason I mention it is the chicken
parmesan. Best I've ever had. Mmmmm...

Now I have not tried the chicken parm at every restaurant
in the Philadelphia area - but there is no need to.
Understand? It's really good. But it depends on who's
doing the cooking. Some times it's better than others.

www.thepalacediner.net

EDIT:

Also I've heard that their deserts are astounding.
I'm a diabetic so I have not tried them, but they sure look darn good.
(Especially the cheesecake.)

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-06-29   18:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Liberator, Chuck_Wagon (#84)

As many as there are they could take a 2 year (or longer) road trip to hit all of the ones listed on that website link I gave you. But hey if they have the time and the money and it's what they love to do then why the heck not.

When I was in Pisa, Italy in the winter of 1980 me and my friends stopped into a little joint right off the main plaza where the Leaning Tower was. We ran into this couple (with 2 kids) from Australia, they were taking 1 year to do an around the world tour. There weren't that many people in there that night and when they heard us speaking English they introduced themselves pulled up a chair and made themselves right at home. We spent the next 4 hours talking to them about where all we lived and places we had visited and of course drinking copious amount of beer, you know the Auzzies.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-30   6:54:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Chuck_Wagon (#95)

It's owned by a family of Greek folks.

A little place I go to when I'm in the area is a traditional Greek restaurant ran by this very large Greek family. The food there is always better than any other place I go that claims to be cooking/selling Greek cuisine. Their Gyros taste so much different (and better) than everybody else's, they must be seasoning their meat differently. I used to go to the annual Greek festival they have here in town but after they opened for business that stopped... :)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-30   7:01:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: CZ82 (#97)

...a traditional Greek restaurant...

Almost 30 years ago I and a group of friends regularly went
to a Greek restaurant (a different place than the diner).
Excellent food. A family run place - the youngest girl would
stand by your table and cater to you every whim - the boy
would wait your table. (This was the place where I first ate
Feta cheese. On a Greek salad...)

But the most amazing thing were the prices - LOW, amazingly
low - actually TOO low - because when the fire inspector
decreed that they had to upgrade the sprinkler system in
the kitchen, they could not afford it and had to close.

I would have rather spent twice as much for the food and had
the place been able to stay in business.

But it was great while it lasted. It got to the point where
we would go there for dinner once a week.
Sadly the place was almost always nearly empty - even though
we 'talked the place up' with other friends and family.
They were hanging in there - until the fire inspector came.

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-06-30   9:20:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: nolu chan (#94)

"I posted the full text of Scalia's dissent here on another thread."

Read it. Thank you. The guy writes entertaining opinions.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-30   9:46:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Chuck_Wagon (#98)

I would have rather spent twice as much for the food and had the place been able to stay in business.

We used to have a Vietnamese place like that here about 10 years ago, great food but hardly anybody ever went there so they went out of business too. There have been 3 or 4 other restaurants in the same building since then none last more than 2 years, bad location I guess but there is a strip mall right across the street to help attract business.

Now about 1/4 mile up the street there is a Mexican restaurant that manages to stay open even though the food isn't very good, go figure. The place used to be owned by a "little old lady" when I was a kid and the food was outstanding, better than any I ever ate in Texas.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-30   20:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Chuck_Wagon (#98)

Sadly the place was almost always nearly empty - even though we 'talked the place up' with other friends and family.

So is this a reflection on the restaurant or on you?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-30   21:26:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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