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Title: An Illustrated Guide to Civil Asset Forfeiture
Source: Daily Sheeple
URL Source: http://www.thedailysheeple.com/an-i ... -civil-asset-forfeiture_062015
Published: Jun 25, 2015
Author: Adam Bates
Post Date: 2015-06-26 05:39:47 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 1434
Comments: 15

asset forfeiture

This cheerfully drawn comic from the Daily Signal does an excellent job highlighting the insanity of civil asset forfeiture. It begins with a quintessentially American premise: a young person setting out on his own, all wordly possessions in hand, to start a new life as an adult. Far be it from me to spoil the rest:

Arresting your property

If such stories seem unbelievable (it is a cartoon after all), be sure and check out the recent all-too-real stories of Joseph Rivers and Charles Clarke, for whom this cartoon surely hits too close to home. Even they are only the tip of the iceberg.

New Mexico has taken the initiative to end this inherently abusive practice once and for all, and there are active reform efforts underway in California, Michigan, Montana, Oklahoma, Maryland, and others. But until every other state and the federal government join in, these incredible tales of legalized theft and policing for profit will continue.

FreedomWorks recently released a handy map accompanying their report on state forfeiture laws. How does your state stack up? (2 images)

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#1. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

It is shocking that anyone can be so stupid to drive around with a huge amount of cash in their vehicle.

You should NEVER drive around with a lot of case. Definitely don’t try to leave the country with a lot of cash. Leaving the country with more than $10,000 requires making a report with the federal government.

If you want to move a lot of wealth around, there are some great options. If you want to move $25,000, all you need to do is to buy five 1918 Ottoman Gold Coins and stick them in your briefcase. That surely is a lot less conspicuous that carrying around “bricks” of cash.

If you want to, for example, move around $500 thousand dollars….then purchase a single five cent buffalo nickel in excellent condition and stick it in your pocket. No one will ever notice.

Civil asset forfeiture is only a problem for idiots. If not through collectible coins, then cold storage and paper wallets, millions of dollars worth of digital currency can be held in a simple, random string of characters.

There are many simple tools and technology to protect your freedom and make sure that you never become another statistic….a statistic without money.

A problem only becomes a problem when someone chooses to make it a problem.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-26   6:03:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#1) (Edited)

It is shocking that anyone can be so stupid to drive around with a huge amount of cash in their vehicle.

Just shut up already!

Carrying cash is NOT a crime!

Civil asset forfeiture is only a problem for idiots.

No asswipe - civil asset forfeiture is a problem for ALL Americans.

There are many simple tools and technology to protect your freedom...

That ranks right up there with "Freedom is Slavery" as one of the most anti-freedom sayings of all time.

You would have made a great Nazi.

It's useful idiots like you who are enabling a coming cashless society.

Bet you can't wait to take the Mark of the Beast.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-26   8:38:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Deckard (#2) (Edited)

Carrying cash is NOT a crime!

And NEITHER is civil forfeiture.

Civil forfeiture has a long history dating back hundred of years to roots in British maritime law to the British Navigation Acts.

The modern day law became more stringent with the passage of the Comprehensive Crime Control Act of 1984 which permitted local and federal law enforcement agencies to divvy up the seized assets and cash.

Just shut up already!

Nah, just wise up already….and avoid any chance of losing your money.

There….that sounds better.

I gave terrific advice, you can ask for no more than that.

You would have made a great Nazi.

Sonny Boy, I make even a greater sage….profoundly wise mentoring in spiritual and philosophical topics while being revered for my famed wisdom.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-26   9:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin (#3)

Judge Orders Cop To Return Seized $167,000 Taken From Man For ‘Driving Too Slow’

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-26   9:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Gatlin (#3)

Sonny Boy, I make even a greater sage….profoundly wise mentoring in spiritual and philosophical topics while being revered for my famed wisdom.

A legend in your own mind.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-26   9:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#1)

A problem only becomes a problem when someone chooses to make it a problem.

The problem being the seizure of cash without any probable cause or evidence of wrongdoing.

You're dead wrong on this.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-26   10:00:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Deckard (#0)

Somali Pirate asset forfeiture prevented.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-06-26   10:19:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#6)

Does civil forfeiture follow the law...IOW, is the law violated?

If something is dead wrong, then it is the law that is dead wrong on this....Not I!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-26   10:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Deckard (#5)

A legend in your own mind.

Nah!

"A legend in my own time!"

I don't want to have to keep correccting you.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-26   10:52:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Gatlin, TooConservative (#8)

Does civil forfeiture follow the law...IOW, is the law violated?

No, it does not follow the law. Yes, the supreme law of the land, the US Constitution is violated... no due process, trial, right to confront your accuser, presumption of innocence, etc....

IOW, the Civil Asset Forfeiture legislation is not law, and is null and void.


Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.


Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

Hondo68  posted on  2015-06-26   11:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: hondo68 (#10)

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury,

A "CIVIL" suit is not a "crime" or a "capital crime"... or even "infamous crime".

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-26   11:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#10)

I don't think anyone is interested in your interpretation of the law....not after the spectacle you displayed showing your ass previously with your misguided and ill informed ideas about what laws mean.

Just move along...

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-26   11:18:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: GrandIsland (#11) (Edited)

"Cuff Him, Dano"....I have to go shopping.

You may at least be able to keep him from banging his head against the wall and injuring himself.

Well, on second thought....let him bang away.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-26   11:20:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Gatlin (#1)

It is shocking that anyone can be so stupid to drive around with a huge amount of cash in their vehicle.

If you want to move a lot of wealth around, there are some great options.

It is not a good idea to move large amounts of money in hidden ways like you described instead of more normal routes like moving cash or routing through bank accounts. At least if you move it through the normal means, it is done in a generally legal manner.

When you attempt to move wealth around in much stranger ways, you create the opportunity to have both the wealth and your person seized together. The more guilty you feel about an act, the more guilty you are.

That being said, the Feds and LEO have also made it impossible to move wealth in a perfectly legal manner because they will almost always suspect that you are a criminal and the money is tied to a crime. It seems that they expect this scenario with glee, because you do not feel guilty about a normal act, yet the wealth is deemed so. Since there is no legal way to try the wealth in court, they get to keep it while you get to keep your freedom... well, maybe you keep your freedom, for now.

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-06-27   1:28:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#3)

Something is very wrong when there is a chance of losing property while not being charged with the crime that you are being accused of. The forfeiture argument loses all sense of logic when we start charging non-sentient objects with crimes while their sentient owners who supposedly break the law walk free.

TheFireBert  posted on  2015-06-27   1:33:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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