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Title: Jon Stewart Rips Hypocrisy in Calls to Remove, Save Confederate Flag
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rolling stone.com
URL Source: http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news ... save-confederate-flag-20150625
Published: Jun 25, 2015
Author: JON BLISTEIN
Post Date: 2015-06-25 19:32:08 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 2048
Comments: 20
After a miserable week, Jon Stewart did some celebrating on The Daily Show Wednesday night, where he covered the uproar to remove the Confederate flag from outside the South Carolina State Building and elsewhere throughout the South. Still — as Stewart may know better than anyone — every silver lining has a cloud, and the host found plenty of continued ignorance to rip apart. Stewart began with the positives, noting that supporters of the Confederate flag's removal include those attached to the older generation. Paul Thurmond, a South Carolina State Senator and the son of staunch segregationist Strom Thurmond, is among those advocating for the flag's removal. "That's like if Kool- Aid Man's son took to the floor of the Senate to give a lecture on the importance of wall preservation," Stewart cracked. Elsewhere, retailers such as Target, Sears, eBay, Amazon and even Etsy have vowed to stop selling Confederate flag merchandise, a move ostensibly prompted by Walmart's decision to do the same. But one progressive step doesn't negate the corporate behemoth's history of questionable practices; and Walmart CEO Doug McMillon's surprise that Confederate flag merchandise appeared on store shelves was plenty to elicit Stewart's New Jersey wise-guy voice. "'I mean, look, I knew we sold cheap guns, really cheap — to anybody,'" Stewart mocked. "'Tremendous stopping power. You come to Walmart and buy some of those guns, you could have a hell of a standoff. My point is this: I didn't know you could get them with the stars and bars holster. That sends a very dangerous message."' Of course, there are still many who want to preserve the flag, but Stewart picked apart their fear-mongering, including an especially deft dismantling of one man's claim that doing away with the Confederate flag would be akin to Stalinism. As for the long held "heritage not hate," argument, Stewart noted the heritage being defended is one of fighting against the United States for slavery. Stewart ended the segment with a reminder that removing the Confederate flag is "a small part of a much larger problem. Ideally this debate is only the start of a longer conversation addressing the kind of institutional and systemic racism that we have yet to disassemble, that continues to this very day."
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#1. To: misterwhite (#0)
A Jon Stewart "funny"...
Stewart is a NYC Jew that grew up in the privileged life of the ruling class and went to all the elited NYC leftist schools,so he can MAYBE be forgiven for his ignorance. After all,if you grow up on Mars and that is the only place you have ever lived,all you know is stuff about Mars. What can't be forgiven is the TOTAL lack of outrage over the LaRaza flag and the African flags being flown at anti-US protests here in the US. Wassamadda,John-Boy? Cat got your PC tongue? Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I guess we have to get rid of the U.S. flag as a symbol of hate too. And all because they oppose kissing, errr, bussing.
I got one of those NY edumakations. I paid attention in history class and learned that the Confederate leaders were nuts, the war was good versus evil, and Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth, a lone nut.
I got an education in southern Virginia in the 50's,and I learned that white southerners were all evil slave owners in the Civil War,and that the saintly President Lincoln freed the slaves. I was also taught that America was a Democracy and that May Day should be a National Holiday here like it was in Russia. I was seriously pissed off when I discovered it was all lies after reading actual history books in the public library. I think I was maybe 13-14 when I figured out those were lies. They had problems with me. I told them nobody in my family had ever owned slaves,and that only communists celebrated May Day,and that all communists should be killed. I was even outraged that my older brother had avoided service during the Korean War and lost his chance to kill commies,and raised hell with him over punking out. I relented when my mother explained to me that being a type 1 diabetic the army wouldn't take him. Even got kicked out of the elementary school band for telling the band leader he was a "stupid yankee SOB that needed to take his ass back up north" after he made a crack about "ignorant rebels". I'm mellow now compared to what I was as a kid. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You must have been in the class 30-40 years behind me. " paid attention in history class and learned that the Confederate leaders were nuts," So you must believe that most of the Founding Fathers were nuts as well. Way to go, Lance. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Neville Chamberlain and Adolph Hitler - "Peace in our Time".... NOT! Appeasement is bad policy, it just encourages the bastards to further villainy.
The Founders were divinely inspired. George Washington was elected unanimously by the 13 states who had all ratified the Constitution. And who knew that photographs were taken at the Booth autopsy? Or that when Grant's wife visited him during the war, she was accompanied by one of her slaves? And the troubles Lincoln had just staying buried until his body was finally buried with two tons of cement. 21 Dec 1865 Lincoln's coffin opened. 19 Sep 1871 Lincoln's coffin opened. 9 Oct 1874 Lincoln's coffin opened. 7 Nov 1876 An attempt is made to steal Lincoln's corpse, and hold it for ransom. 22 Jun 1877 Lincoln's would-be tomb robbers begin serving prison sentence. 14 Apr 1887 Lincoln's coffin opened. 26 Sep 1901 Abraham Lincoln's body is exhumed an examined. The corpse is recognizably Lincoln, with the exception that the eyebrows have fallen out. Twenty-three individuals examine Lincoln, all agreeing that it is indeed him. Lincoln is then reburied for the last time, under two tons of cement.
I was taught every one had slaves in the south and they worked them to death. Neither was true. After research I found almost no one had slaves. The people who did have slaves had lots of slaves. They were treated a lot like horses. In fact slaves were much more expensive than horses by multiples. Nothing I was taught about slavery was accurate. In fact if the job was dangerous indentured people were used because slaves were to expensive to waste. If an indentured person were to die before they got paid guess who got to keep their pay?
No appeasement here either. They flew their flag to symbolize their cause.
http://libertysflame.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=40432&Disp=0
That IS funny...
Yeah, and that is the rebels of Boston. I saw a few pics of people protesting bussing. #10 shows rebels of Detroit.
So you must believe that most of the Founding Fathers were nuts as well. The Founders were divinely inspired. Since many FF owned slaves (including George Washinton) and collectively they codified the institution of slavery in the Consitution that was ratified by all 13 colonies, what exactly was taught in your NY edumakation that learned you that the Confederate leaders were nuts? Certainly it could not be their position on slavery. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
There was no hint of slaves at Mt. Vernon or Monticello. We were taught that the South seceded without good cause and started a war over slavery. John Wilkes Booth was a lone nut crazed assassin. Uncle Tom's Cabin got pretty good coverage. My school days were a very long way back. Did your school ever mention the actual judgment in Dred Scott, or that it was a completely manufactured case with manufactured facts agreed to by both parties? Surely you had no clue who owned Dred Scott. 60 U.S. 393, 454 -- the conclusion of Taney's majority (7-2) opinion. Jurisdiction had been invoked on a claim of diversity of state citizenship. Absent such diversity of citizenship, the claim of jurisdiction failed.
There clearly is a difference in prevailing attitudes and economics around slavery from the time of the Founding Fathers and 1861. Slavery was important to economics of the south earlier, but the rise of industrialization made slavery by 1861 the biggest financial asset in the USA - worth more than the value of all the combined private land north AND south. So you went from people in Jefferson's day thinking slavery was a necessary evil that would probably die out in a generation to slave owning advocates declaring it not only was good for the slaves, it was so ordained by God and it was actually good for America to have slavery (Calhoun).
With industrialization, machines take the place of human labor. It would have become economically infeasible to maintain millions of slaves without a money making job description. Slavery would have died of natural causes.
Slavery would have died of natural causes. Slavery was made more valuable by industrialization. The capital asset of slaves was worth more than all the land value in the USA of that era. So clearly your thesis that industrialization would have made slavery obsolete fails here. Maybe it fails here because while slavery in factory system does not work, it seems to work on farming systems? Even today, farming that uses human labor needs foreign low wage labor. Clearly the imminent death of slavery predicted by Jefferson and other contemporaries did not pan out and slavery showed no sign of being on its last legs by 1861.
Slavery would have died of natural causes. That's pretty much it. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
#2. To: Gatlin (#0)
As for the long held "heritage not hate," argument, Stewart noted the heritage being defended is one of fighting against the United States for slavery.
#3. To: Gatlin (#0)
#4. To: sneakypete (#2)
Stewart is a NYC Jew that grew up in the privileged life of the ruling class and went to all the elited NYC leftist schools,so he can MAYBE be forgiven for his ignorance.
#5. To: nolu chan (#4)
I got one of those NY edumakations.
#6. To: nolu chan (#4)
I got one of those NY edumakations. I paid attention in history class and learned that the Confederate leaders were nuts, the war was good versus evil, and Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth, a lone nut.
#7. To: nolu chan, Gatlin, sneakypete (#3)
#8. To: SOSO (#6)
So you must believe that most of the Founding Fathers were nuts as well.
4 May 1865 Buried at Oak Ridge Cemetery, Springfield IL.
#9. To: sneakypete, Nolu chan (#5)
#10. To: hondo68 (#7)
#11. To: Justified (#9)
After research I found almost no one had slaves. The people who did have slaves had lots of slaves.
#12. To: nolu chan (#3)
#13. To: All (#0)
#14. To: Gatlin (#12)
That IS funny...
#15. To: nolu chan (#8)
#16. To: SOSO (#15)
Since many FF owned slaves (including George Washinton) and collectively they codified the institution of slavery in the Consitution that was ratified by all 13 colonies, what exactly was taught in your NY edumakation that learned you that the Confederate leaders were nuts?
Upon the whole, therefore, it is the judgment of this court, that it appears by the record before us that the plaintiff in error is not a citizen of Missouri, in the sense in which that word is used in the Constitution; and that the Circuit Court of the United States, for that reason, had no jurisdiction in the case, and could give no judgment in it. Its judgment for the defendant must, consequently, be reversed, and a mandate issued, directing the suit to be dismissed for want of jurisdiction.
#17. To: SOSO, nolu chan (#15)
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#18. To: Pericles, SOSO (#17)
Slavery was important to economics of the south earlier, but the rise of industrialization made slavery by 1861 the biggest financial asset in the USA - worth more than the value of all the combined private land north AND south.
#19. To: nolu chan, SOSO (#18)
(Edited)
Slavery was important to economics of the south earlier, but the rise of industrialization made slavery by 1861 the biggest financial asset in the USA - worth more than the value of all the combined private land north AND south. With industrialization, machines take the place of human labor. It would have become economically infeasible to maintain millions of slaves without a money making job description.
#20. To: nolu chan (#18)
With industrialization, machines take the place of human labor. It would have become economically infeasible to maintain millions of slaves without a money making job description.
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