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Title: BREAKING: SCOTUS 6-3 Upholds Obamacare Subsidies
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Published: Jun 25, 2015
Author: cranko
Post Date: 2015-06-25 10:10:40 by cranko
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Views: 6356
Comments: 55

SCOTUS = POS

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#5. To: cranko (#0)

Did the court answer the question of why that language was put in there to begin with? Why make the differentiation between states that set up exchanges and states that didn't?

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-25   10:20:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: misterwhite (#5)

Did the court answer the question of why that language was put in there to begin with?

I'll read the decsion later ;but the short answer is probably not . SCOTUS doesn't believe in the plain language of the Constitution .Why would they concern themselves with the plain language of a law ?

tomder55  posted on  2015-06-25   11:14:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: tomder55 (#17)

The court ignored the actual wording. Then the court ignored the intent of the wording. Instead, the court addressed the intent of the overall legislation and the court determined the best way to accomplish it.

Given the court's decision, there's no benefit now for a state to run an exchange. And what if the feds can't afford to run them and Obamacare goes bust? Oops. I guess that what happens when the court tries to write legislation instead of simply ruling on it.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-25   11:32:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: misterwhite, redleghunter (#19)

Given the court's decision, there's no benefit now for a state to run an exchange. And what if the feds can't afford to run them and Obamacare goes bust? Oops. I guess that what happens when the court tries to write legislation instead of simply ruling on it.

Bringing us that much closer to single payer ;which has been the goal of the statists all along. I expect Obamacare will be a big issue during the elections because the individual penalty increases .....ooops I mean tax ... and the employer mandate kicks in . Watch the Dem chorus sing "it's settled law" .

tomder55  posted on  2015-06-25   11:55:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: tomder55 (#25)

"Bringing us that much closer to single payer ;which has been the goal of the statists all along."

True. Already we have Medicaid, Expanded Medicaid, Medicare, the VA and federal employees under federal authority.

Not far to go. Keep forcing the premiums higher in the private sector and people will demand single-payer.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-25   12:04:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: misterwhite (#27)

Keep forcing the premiums higher in the private sector and people will demand single-payer.

Exactly. That is the obvious endpoint, and it is what we need. The Scandinavian model works for the basic needs: Universal publicly funded education, universal publicly funded health care, and universal publicly funded retirement.

That eliminates insecurity, and allows people to get on with their lives.

It's expensive, but it works consistently to produce a high performing, happy, prosperous society.

So let's get on with it and get to single payer.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-06-25   17:30:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#42. To: Vicomte13, misterwhite, All (#41)

It's expensive, but it works consistently to produce a high performing, happy, prosperous society.

Here, I fixed it for you.

It's expensive, but it works consistently to produce a high performing, happy, prosperous society of first cousins.

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-25 17:42:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Vicomte13 (#41)

"The Scandinavian model works ..."

... for Scandinavians.

Here in the U.S.? I got two words for that. Food stamps. I'll add two more. Disability income.

There's a different work ethic in the Scandinavian countries. Here, we'd go broke supporting the parasites. 50 million people needing food stamps? Really? Disability payments add another $200 billion to the budget every year. That's a lot of bad backs.

Sorry. The "Scandinavian Model" will not work here. Maybe 50 years ago (when we had a good work ethic) it would have. Not today.

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