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Title: Bobby Jindal announces US Presidential bid
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Published: Jun 24, 2015
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Post Date: 2015-06-24 23:50:40 by Hondo68
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Washington: Louisiana Governor Piyush "Bobby" Jindal on Wednesday made his much- anticipated entry into the 2016 White House race via Twitter making him the first Indian-American and 13th Republican candidate to do so.

"I'm running for President of the United States of America. Join me," he tweeted with a link to his campaign site shortly after noon ahead of a planned formal announcement in the New Orleans suburb of Kenner Wednesday evening.

"A Special Announcement From Bobby Jindal. My name is Bobby Jindal, and I am running for President of the United States of America. There were three people I think you would agree my wife Supriya and I had to tell first," said a second tweet.

Jindal's tweet came shortly adviser Curt Anderson told reporters at a morning briefing: "We get into the race at 5 o'clock tonight,"

A hidden-camera style video of the governor telling his kids about his decision to run followed. His daughter quickly leveraged the information, requesting a puppy as her share of the deal.

"OK, if we move into the White House, you can have a puppy," Jindal told his daughter.

Jindal joins an already crowded field of Republican candidates including Jeb Bush, Rick Perry and Mike Huckabee, former governors of Florida, Texas and Arkansas respectively, US Senators Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and Lindsey Graham, former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina; and real estate mogul Donald Trump.

Once viewed as a rising star of the Republican party, Jindal, 44, who was the youngest American governor when first elected in 2007, is now polling toward the bottom of the Republican field, registering at just 1 percent in the latest CNN/ORC poll this month.

Analysts suggested that he faces an uphill task in his campaign and even faces the prospect of being eliminated from Fox News's presidential debates starting August 6 as the channel has decided to limit it to the top 10.

Jindal, who received wide support from Indian-Americans in his Congressional and gubernatorial campaigns, seems to have lost much traction with the community since he recently declared that he was tired of hyphenated Americans.

His parents, he declared, "They weren't coming to raise 'Indian-Americans.' They were coming to raise Americans."

As Pearson Cross, a political science professor at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette who is writing a book on him told the Washington Post: "There's not much Indian left in Bobby Jindal."

The Louisiana-born son of immigrant parents from India, Jindal converted from Hinduism to Christianity as a teen, and was later baptised a Catholic as a student at Brown University.

The Rhodes scholar was the second Indian-American to be elected to the US House of Representatives in 2004 after Dalip Singh Saund, a Democrat, in 1957.

He was re-elected to the Congress in 2006 before making his second run for governor in 2007. He was re-elected in 2011.


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#1. To: hondo68 (#0)

As the list of candidates grows longer, it will be easier to list the people who are not candidates.

rlk  posted on  2015-06-25   0:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: hondo68 (#0)

This moron did not want to federal money to monitor volcanoes in Alaska and he said this when one was going off if I recall. No thanks.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   0:03:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Pericles (#2)

Please source your claim. Thanks.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   0:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: redleghunter (#3)

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/25/jindal.volcanoes/

Gov. Bobby Jindal's volcano remark has some fuming

(CNN) -- Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal's swipe at federal spending to monitor volcanoes has the mayor of one city in the shadow of Mount St. Helens fuming.

"Does the governor have a volcano in his backyard?" Royce Pollard, the mayor of Vancouver, Washington, said on Wednesday. "We have one that's very active, and it still rumbles and spits and coughs very frequently."

Jindal singled out a $140 million appropriation for the U.S. Geological Survey as an example of questionable government spending during the GOP response to President Obama's address to Congress Tuesday night.

The governor, a rising Republican star, questioned why "something called 'volcano monitoring' " was included in the nearly $800 billion economic stimulus bill Obama signed earlier this month.

"Instead of monitoring volcanoes, what Congress should be monitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington," Jindal said.

But Marianne Guffanti, a volcano researcher at the U.S. Geological Survey, said, "We don't throw the money down the crater of the volcano and watch it burn up."

The USGS, which received the money Jindal criticized, is monitoring several active volcanoes across the Pacific Northwest, Alaska and Hawaii. One of those is Mount St. Helens, about 70 miles north of Vancouver, Washington, and neighboring Portland, Oregon.

USGS researchers are also keeping a close eye on Alaska's Mount Redoubt volcano, about 100 miles from Anchorage, which is predicted to go off again within a few months. Its last eruption, in 1989, disrupted air traffic and forced down a commercial jet that sucked ash into its engines.

"If we can give good information about what's happening, that system of diversions and cancellations all works much more efficiently," Guffanti said. "And fewer people are delayed and standard business is resumed quickly."

Louisiana is no stranger to natural disasters itself, having been devastated by Hurricane Katrina in 2005. But Timmy Teepell, Jindal's chief of staff, said the governor stands by his statement.

"That was just one example of wasteful spending in the largest government spending bill in history," Teepell said. "The governor made it clear that we need to grow jobs, not government." iReport.com: Share your thoughts on Obama, Jindal speeches

The $140 million line-item for the USGS includes not only monitoring, but also replacement of aging equipment "and other critical deferred maintenance and improvement projects."

The spending could provide new jobs "no different than the amount of money you would spend on building a street or building a bridge or something," said Danny Boston, an economist at Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, Georgia.

Pollard, a former Army officer who has served as Vancouver's mayor for 14 years, said USGS equipment used to keep tabs on volcanoes is frequently damaged or destroyed. He said he wasn't sure how many jobs the money could produce, but, "For us and the people who live closer to it than Vancouver, it's important." iReport.com: Jindal's tone 'insulting'

"We lost lives the last time, and we could lose them again," he said.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   0:45:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Pericles, redleghunter (#4)

The governor, a rising Republican star, questioned why "something called 'volcano monitoring' " was included in the nearly $800 billion economic stimulus bill Obama signed earlier this month.

He was exactly correct, moron. WTF is $140 million on volcano monitoring doing in an $800 economic stimulus package. But I have to hand it to you, once again an excellent distortion of reality by a lefist apparatchik.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-25   0:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: SOSO (#5)

He was exactly correct, moron. WTF is $140 million on volcano monitoring doing in an $800 economic stimulus package. But I have to hand it to you, once again an excellent distortion of reality by a lefist apparatchik.

We should do a human sacrifice to take care of the volcano god instead. Conservative clown car.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   1:06:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Pericles (#6)

We should do a human sacrifice to take care of the volcano god instead.

Thanks for volunteering.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-25   1:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pericles (#4) (Edited)

"We lost lives the last time, and we could lose them again," he said.

If that worries you,maybe you should consider moving?

Kinda reminds me of those idiots that want to live in a city right on the coast that is 7 feet below sea level,and then scream for everybody to rebuild their houses for them after they are flooded out.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   3:48:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Pericles (#6)

We should do a human sacrifice to take care of the volcano god instead.

Works for me. You get my vote as the first volcano test pilot.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   3:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: hondo68 (#0) (Edited)

We need a Hindu-Catholic anchor baby?

His parents were legal immigrants. I'm not sure if they entered as resident aliens (green card holders) but that is most likely. Back in 1971, immigration enforcement was a lot stricter and green card status was more difficult to obtain.

NYT:
Piyush Jindal was born on June 10, 1971, in Baton Rouge to Hindu parents who had come to the United States six months before so his mother could pursue a graduate degree in nuclear physics at Louisiana State University. His father was an engineer from the Punjab region of India, the only one of nine siblings to attend high school. The younger Jindal, growing up in Baton Rouge, was not expected to come home from school with anything less than 100 on tests. Public high school in Baton Rouge was followed by Brown, where Jindal was Phi Beta Kappa, and a conversion to Roman Catholicism that Jindal has described in transformative terms. "I draw my definition of integrity from my Christian faith," Jindal said during the campaign. "In my faith, you give 100 percent of yourself to God."

He is pretty Americanized but I'm not sure why that is a mark against him. So are nearly all the white people in America and we don't disparage their family's immigration history.

If you want an example of an anchor-baby presidential candidate, recall Bill Richardson who ran in 2004, I think (or 2008). Also, New Mexico governor. His mother came here alone for a few months to give birth and both she and he returned to Mexico. The laws at the time were that both parents had to come and they had to be here a longer period of time and remain residents. IOW, an actual anchor baby.

I notice he chose the name Bobby at age 4 because he was a big Brady Bunch fan in the Seventies.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-25   5:49:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#0)

We need a Hindu-Catholic anchor baby?

didn't take the Washington Compost long to question if he was Indian enough .

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/from-piyush-to-bobby-how-does-jindal- feel-about-his-familys-past/2015/06/22/7d45a3da-18ec-11e5-ab92- c75ae6ab94b5_story.html?tid=sm_tw

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

tomder55  posted on  2015-06-25   8:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: hondo68 (#0)

I like Bobby Jindle. Highly unlikely he will get my vote in the primaries. But if he were to somehow win I would vote for him. He is an honorable man from what I have seen.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-25   8:29:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Pericles (#4)

Thanks. Never heard of this. Why a Gov. from LA would even weigh in on this is a bit out of the norm.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   9:19:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: redleghunter (#13)

Thanks. Never heard of this. Why a Gov. from LA would even weigh in on this is a bit out of the norm.

He was called out for it because it was in his debut speech to the nation and it may have been as simple as his handlers who write speeches scanned the law for any hint of wasteful spending - found nothing but this earmark designed to help monitor volcanoes (this may have happened around the time Iceland's volcanoes shut down air travel to Europe) and thought they could make political hay out of it.

But it also points to this stupid notion that GOP adopted that everything the govt is bad and wasteful - especially stuff like science based volcano monitoring.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   9:27:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: sneakypete (#8)

"We lost lives the last time, and we could lose them again," he said.

If that worries you,maybe you should consider moving?

Who needs money on earthquake monitoring - they should depopulate California.....

Pete, your thinking is why the GOP is considered the clown party these days.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   9:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pericles (#14)

Although I see it odd for a LA Gov. commenting at the time on a federal budget item for another state, I do see why he commented on the 'packaging' of the measure for Alaska.

I think it was more an opposition on 'how' things are rammed into the budget than it is 'what' is in the budget.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   9:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: redleghunter (#16)

Although I see it odd for a LA Gov. commenting at the time on a federal budget item for another state, I do see why he commented on the 'packaging' of the measure for Alaska.

I think it was more an opposition on 'how' things are rammed into the budget than it is 'what' is in the budget.

Which is a stupid argument. Spending bills have always been like this. The money was needed and this bill was about to pass as law and save time and effort added on. If it makes Jindal feel better it probably added some jobs for geologists, seismologists in the process.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   9:49:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pericles (#17)

Which is a stupid argument. Spending bills have always been like this.

No, not stupid. Stupid is how the omnibus measures are drafted to ensure everyone gets their pork. For that Jindl is correct. He could have picked many other items but probably focused on this one as it did not fit a stimulus package. What stimulus is there in granting money to federal project? That seems to be more a ideological difference between conservatives and liberals. Liberals see government as the be all to stimulate the econonomy.

Just saying 'well that's the way things get passed' is exactly what Jindl was addressing. Why was a volcano monitoring in a stimulus package? Good question and even better given the price tag.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   10:04:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pericles (#15) (Edited)

Pete, your thinking is why the GOP is considered the clown party these days.

And your thinking has been proven over and over to be faulty everywhere communism has ever been forced on the people.

People in this country have free will,and can move anywhere they want. This is especially true of poor people,who have nothing to lose and nothing to leave behind.

If you want to sit along a earthquake fault line or in a coastal city that is 7 feet BELOW sea level,that is your right. Just don't expect me to feel sorry for you or spend MY money to help you when the inevitable happens.

BTW,YOU are the that is a member of the clown party,not me. Maybe even the sub-clown party. As for me,I support neither branch of the corrupt ruling fascist party.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   10:20:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#19)

And your thinking has been proven over and over to be faulty everywhere communism has ever been forced on the people.

People in this country have free will,and can move anywhere they want. This is especially true of poor people,who have nothing to lose and nothing to leave behi

I am not a commie and free will is an illusion in the USA.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   10:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: redleghunter (#18)

Liberals see government as the be all to stimulate the econonomy.

Well,to start off with they are not Liberals,and there is nothing the tiniest bit liberal about them.

What they are is communists and fascists,and of course they look up to big government as the answer to any and all problems. To them,Big Government is mama,and they are the needy children that need Big Mama to look out for them.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   10:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: redleghunter (#18)

What stimulus is there in granting money to federal project?

Whats the difference if it gets passed alone or as part of a stimulus? It is one of these BS Orwellian things the GOP think tanks come up with like renaming estate taxes into "death taxes" in a way to mind fuck the GOP base.

There is no difference where spending is attached on a bill.

When you go buy stuff on a credit card you don't have one credit card for foods and one for shampoos and one for shoes.

Calling a bill a name is for press release purposes to draw attention to it - it's not really every been a practice that a spending bill has to be a one spending topic only bill. It makes for good political hay to demagogues though.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   10:43:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: sneakypete, redleghunter (#21)

berals see government as the be all to stimulate the econonomy.

Well,to start off with they are not Liberals,and there is nothing the tiniest bit liberal about them.

What they are is communists and fascists,and of course they look up to big government as the answer to any and all problems. To them,Big Government is mama,and they are the needy children that need Big Mama to look out for them.

Volcano and earthquake science is commie science?????

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   10:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Pericles (#22)

There is no difference where spending is attached on a bill.

Yes there is and both sides play that game.

What does a swimming pool for a Puerto Rico childrens camp have to do with a bill funding defense...Nothing, but that happens.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   11:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Pericles, sneakypete (#23)

Volcano and earthquake science is commie science?????

When attached to a stimulus bill...yes.

But now that you bring this old issue up, I find Jindl had it right. It was the same stimulus bill which stated money for 'shovel ready projects' which never materialized...Obolo even admitted so in 2012.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   11:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: redleghunter, sneakypete (#25) (Edited)

Volcano and earthquake science is commie science?????

When attached to a stimulus bill...yes.

That is not how Jindal phrased it - he treated it like some weird fake science experiment.

The exact words used "and $140 million for something called "volcanomonitoring."

Jindal might as well be saying in my best Foghorn Leghorn: Now lookie here, I is from the south and I don't cotton to this here volcano science business. Why, volcanoes are a myth along with a revolving earth and the fact that the sun is made of fire rather than a polished golden disk, I do declare.

Don't Republicans like talking to people like they went to college?

And the he says Instead of monitoring volcanos, what Congress should bemonitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C.

He did not word it as a case of the right bill but in the wrong package. he worded it as something Congress SHOULD NOT BE DOING in any case. But COngress should be allocating money to study if there will be a storm or earthquake or a volcano eruption. That is money well spent - money that goes to educated and worthy scientists who are in a field that has few private sector outlets for their research and costs too much for local level spending alone - and is a shared burden.

So that is why I take issue with somehow Jindal was talking about this being inside a stimulus bill rather than another kind of bill. That was the BS spin doctor defense Jindal's people came up with after he was made fun of for sounding like he did not know what "volcanomonitoring" was.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   11:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Pericles (#20)

I am not a commie ....

Uh,huh.

and free will is an illusion in the USA

I have to give you at least 50 percent credit for that one. We damn sure don't have the individual freedoms we used to have,and are going to have less tomorrow than we have today.

Thanks to people like you.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   12:07:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Pericles (#23) (Edited)

Volcano and earthquake science is commie science?????

No,but they are just included in your "de gubbermint shood...." list because you believe the government should use it's "free moneys days gits frum de rich" to pay for anything and everything.

After all,it doesn't cost anybody anything unless they are rich and have "more than their fair share",right?

We iz da wurld.......

We iz da peep-pulls......

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   12:11:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Pericles (#26)

The exact words used "and $140 million for something called "volcanomonitoring."

It doesn't matter what words he used because he was right on the main issue,which is that we shouldn't be directly financing it.

This is a job for universities to do research on,and they already get a pile of public as well as private money to teach earth sciences. Let THEM take it out of THEIR budgets,and do NOT increase their funding or give them special grant money to do it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   12:15:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#29)

he exact words used "and $140 million for something called "volcanomonitoring."

It doesn't matter what words he used because he was right on the main issue,which is that we shouldn't be directly financing it.

This is a job for universities to do research on,and they already get a pile of public as well as private money to teach earth sciences. Let THEM take it out of THEIR budgets,and do NOT increase their funding or give them special grant money to do it.

Your "we shouldn't fund this" is bullshit philosophy. You can move to Somalia and places like that where they don't monitor such things with tax money. Those are the kind of places that don't fund stuff.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   12:22:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Pericles (#30)

Your "we shouldn't fund this" is bullshit philosophy. You can move to Somalia and places like that where they don't monitor such things with tax money. Those are the kind of places that don't fund stuff

Taking that kind of personal,ain't ya?

Stepping on your toes?

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   12:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

Your "we shouldn't fund this" is bullshit philosophy. You can move to Somalia and places like that where they don't monitor such things with tax money. Those are the kind of places that don't fund stuff

Taking that kind of personal,ain't ya?

Stepping on your toes?

Not at all personal - it may read angry but I am not in any way angry. I just find this new found ideology on the right to be silly. Public works and safety is a shared burden - this is not like the govt wasting tax payer money to fund art exhibits in rich areas for example or paying people to be on welfare.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   12:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Pericles (#6)

That's rich, you want to spare the lives of convicted rapists and convicted, habitual, dangerous attempted murderers... but you advocate killing another poster for merely pointing out your libtardedness.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-25   13:21:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Pericles, redleghunter (#14)

But it also points to this stupid notion that GOP adopted that everything the govt is bad and wasteful - especially stuff like science based volcano monitoring.

No, it points out that you don't grasp the meaning of the words "economic stimulus".

Whatever the merits of volcano studies, they are not known for stimulating an economy in recession. Piyush clearly understood this.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled GOP bashing.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-25   13:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Pericles (#32)

Public works and safety is a shared burden

There is a difference between public funding for things like fire stations to put out fires because they are rarely a predicable result of nature at work.

On the other hand,do you have to be a genius to figure out that if you live in a city that is 7 feet below sea level in an area right on the coast that is prone to be hit by hurricanes that you are going to get swamped?

If you make the decision to live in a high risk area despite the risk,don't expect the treasury to bail you out.

I once lived in a coastal community where newbies moved in and built expensive new vacation and retirement homes on the beach while ignoring the fact that NONE of the locals lived on the ocean front,and at least once every ten years or so a hurricane would hit and destroy their homes,and then here would come the federal money for them to rebuild right on the same lot. Which is pretty much the definition for insanity.

Don't get me wrong. If they want to build and rebuild on the same lot using their own dime,I have no problem with that. I DO have a problem with the taxpayedrs having to shell out 200 grand or so every 10 years or so to build new ocean front homes for retired people who are financially "comfortable" enough to only live there in the winter and then go back north in the summer to live while renting the home out for thousands a week.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   13:29:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#35)

On the other hand,do you have to be a genius to figure out that if you live in a city that is 7 feet below sea level in an area right on the coast that is prone to be hit by hurricanes that you are going to get swamped?

So the USA can't do what the Netherlands does?

New Orleans is there for a reason - it has to be because of the Miss. river. A good public works is needed there. It is a burden that can be shared because New Orleans allows for commerce up and down the river to benefit the whole country.

You make the mistake in that you claim you are for limited govt and then apply that to all positions - that is like being for the death penalty but applying that to all crimes, including jay walking.

In some cases you need limited govt in other cases you need a lot of govt. Your problem is you treat your political view as a dogmatic religion that can't change with the circumstance.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   13:48:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Pericles, sneakypete, TooConservative, CZ82 (#36)

So the USA can't do what the Netherlands does?

You trust...the...Dutch?

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-25   13:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Pericles (#36)

So the USA can't do what the Netherlands does?

Speak Dutch?

You MIGHT be able to notice a slight difference between Holland and the US. We are a LOT bigger and a lot less crowded. There are plenty of places for people to move to where they don't have to worry about drowning in their sleep.

New Orleans is there for a reason - it has to be because of the Miss. river. A good public works is needed there. It is a burden that can be shared because New Orleans allows for commerce up and down the river to benefit the whole country.

And where do luxury beach front homes as well as slums full of ghetto rats that don't work fit into that scenario? They don't.

If it has to be there for shipping,turn it into an industrial city and let the shipping companies pay for any high rise buildings needed to house workers.

In some cases you need limited govt in other cases you need a lot of govt.

And is most cases you don't need government at all unless you are a parasite. I damn sure don't need the government to tell me to not live above a earthquake fault line,in a bushy canyon is a bone dry area,or in a area that regularly gets flooded by storm waters. IF I chose to live there,which is my right,I must also accept the responsibility to take it upon myself to rebuild when my home is destroyed.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-25   14:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: TooConservative (#34)

No, it points out that you don't grasp the meaning of the words "economic stimulus".

Whatever the merits of volcano studies, they are not known for stimulating an economy in recession. Piyush clearly understood this.

You may now return to your regularly scheduled GOP bashing.

One more time:

That is not how Jindal phrased it - he treated it like some weird fake science experiment.

The exact words used "and $140 million for something called "volcanomonitoring." Does he not know what it is?

Jindal might as well be saying in my best Foghorn Leghorn: "Now lookie here, I is from the south and I don't cotton to this here volcano science business. Why, volcanoes are a myth along with a revolving earth and the fact that the sun is made of fire rather than a polished golden disk, I do declare."

Don't Republicans like talking to people like they went to college?

And then Jindal says "Instead of monitoring volcanos, what Congress should bemonitoring is the eruption of spending in Washington, D.C."

He did not word it as a case of the right bill but in the wrong package. he worded it as something Congress SHOULD NOT BE DOING in any case.

But COngress should be allocating money to study if there will be a storm or earthquake or a volcano eruption. That is money well spent - money that goes to educated and worthy scientists who are in a field that has few private sector outlets for their research and costs too much for local level spending alone - and is a shared burden.

So that is why I take issue with the spin that Jindal was talking about this volcano monitor money being inside a stimulus bill rather than another kind of bill. That was the BS spin doctor defense Jindal's people came up with after he was made fun of for sounding like he did not know what "volcanomonitoring" was for like it was a fake program without merit.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-25   15:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Pericles (#39)

The exact words used "and $140 million for something called "volcanomonitoring." Does he not know what it is?

It's a thing called political rhetoric.

I notice you never hold the Dems to such high standards of accuracy in speeches. Why is that anyway?

As for knowing what it is, Jindal is quite a brain, a fast study at anything.

Jindal attended Baton Rouge Magnet High School, graduating in 1988 at the top of his class. While in high school, he competed in tennis tournaments, and started a computer newsletter, a retail candy business, and a mail-order software company. He spent his free time working in the stands at LSU football games.[6] Jindal was one of 50 students nationwide admitted to the Program in Liberal Medical Education (PLME) at Brown University, guaranteeing him a place in medical school. Jindal completed majors in biology and public policy. He graduated in 1991 at the age of 20, with honors in both majors.[6][7] Jindal was named to the 1992 USA Today All-USA Academic Team. He applied to and was accepted by both Harvard Medical School and Yale Law School, but studied at New College, Oxford, as a Rhodes Scholar. He received an M.Litt. degree in political science with an emphasis in health policy from the University of Oxford in 1994, where the subject of his thesis was "A needs-based approach to health care".[6]

Dumb, he is not. I'd say about like Bill Clinton but a more disciplined student.

Cruz is the smartest of the 2016 GOP candidates but Jindal is in the same league. Christie and Paul are no slouches either but not quite the academic elite that Cruz and Jindal were.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-25   19:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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