US retailers like Walmart, Kmart and Sears have pledged to stop selling Confederate flags and related paraphernalia, but major e-commerce platforms like Amazon and eBay have yet to pull products bearing the emblem.
A church shooting in Charleston, South Carolina that left nine black Americans dead has prompted a wave of protests over the presence of the flag, especially in the south where it is considered a symbol of southern pride for some and a potent reminder of the racism inherent in the regions history for others.
South Carolina has said it will take the red banner with a blue X and stars down from its state capitol building. Lawmakers and protesters are calling for similar measures in other states.
Amazon and eBay, though, have remained silent on the issue. Neither company responded to e-mailed questions from Quartz about whether they will join the ban.
A search for Confederate flag on Amazon yields over 30,000 resultsincluding bikinis, electronics, and home decor decorated with the flag. Theres a Confederate flag mink bedspread, antique-look flag iPhone covers, and even elaborate lampshades.
A search on eBay pulls up over 1,600 listings.
While these companies remain mum, Amazon customers have taken to the platforms question and answer sections to express their thoughts. Regarding a polyester Confederate Rebel Flag sold by Rhode Island Novelty for $5.05, shoppers recently asked:
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Some previous patrons of Rhode Island Noveltys Confederate flags offered helpful answers:
People tend to believe for life what they are taught as children,and children in this country have been taught lies about slavery and the Confederacy since the 1860's.
The all-time greatest debunking of the Lincoln myth was written by black author, Lerone Bennett, Jr., for a half-century an editor at Ebony magazine. His book, Forced Into Glory, Abraham Lincoln's White Dream, was published in 2000.
When blacks riot and kill whites, can we call for statues of Martin Luther King to be torn down?
If a black person were to burn a U.S. flag as his perceived symbol of slavery and oppression, would that provide cause to take down the U.S. flag from the White House?
Black activists making kids burn American flags in McKinney, Texas
Posted by soopermexican on Jun 8, 2015 at 9:54 PM
Well the protest industry is out in full force in McKinney, Texas, and they will make sure the arrests are portrayed as racially-motivated no matter what the truth of the matter is. And to show just how classy they are, they are reportedly burning American flags:
" When blacks riot and kill whites, can we call for statues of Martin Luther King to be torn down? "
Damn good question! I anxiously await to see what reply, if any, that you get!
There would be a demand to erect new statues. King was one of the greatest leftist revolutionary organizers in Americal history and has universal support in the left, from universal salesmanship, academia, government, and the media. His persona is the result of an ongoing propaganda campaign from which there is no hiding and no disagreement with it is allowed.
As part of a compromise in 2000, lawmakers agreed to remove the Confederate flag from the top of the Capitol dome and place it across the street while also adding a monument to African- Americans. But the legislation mandated that only a supermajority of the legislature could change that set-up going forward.
And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6
The teachers teaching it believe this nonsense,too. All they know is what they have been taught,and teaching is where students go who lack the ability to do anything else.
That's why it's important to establish national education standards in math, science and history.... To expunge these ignorant, outmoded and objectionable views from mainstream society. The rebellious Confederacy was a disgraceful blemish on our nation's history and should never be cast in a favorable light.
Some people march to a different drummer - and some people POLKA.
The all-time greatest debunking of the Lincoln myth was written by black author, Lerone Bennett, Jr., for a half-century an editor at Ebony magazine. His book, Forced Into Glory, Abraham Lincoln's White Dream, was published in 2000.
Thanks for the tip. I had never heard of that book.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The rebellious Confederacy was a disgraceful blemish on our nation's history and should never be cast in a favorable light.
You are full of crap on this one,Willie. The states had a LEGAL RIGHT to secede from a VOLUNTARY union. In fact,there were pre-existing conditions that had to be met before they would all agree to join together.
It was the SOUTH that was objecting to changes made in the charter they had all agreed to that was the victim here.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Does that mean that Sanders is more of a leftist than the globalist Republicans that joined with Clinton to send all of our manufacturing overseas?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
You are the one who is full of crap, pete. I really don't give a rat's ass whether the southern states had the right to secede or not... in fact, I would've been happy to get rid of the ignorant racists & bigots... Lincoln was wrong... he should've booted them out of the Union on their good-for-nothing lazy butts.
I had family from both sides of the line. Both were here before there was a USA!
So you a johnny come lately who believes anything that makes you feel good. Yes you need to need to point the finger at yourself. Your bigotry is no different than anyone else's!
I really don't give a rat's ass whether the southern states had the right to secede or not...
Then you just admitted you don't care about right or wrong.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Wrong pete.... Human rights have a higher priority than states rights. The Confederacy deserved to be crushed because it was evil, regardless of whatever "rights" the states had.
When blacks riot and kill whites, can we call for statues of Martin Luther King to be torn down?
no ;because that isn't what MLK stood for . Now the Confederate flag ;the flag of treason and rebellion against the United States should be removed from State Capitols. However ;we are not the Taliban or the Islamic State . We don't destroy history or heritage regradless of how unpleasant and misguided and evil it was . We should instead never forget what the true reason of the rebellion was about ....slavery .
Wrong pete.... Human rights have a higher priority than states rights.
Then why do you democrats put babies in commercial blenders.
If you support abortion you should be put to death. :)
Someone that complains about a flag then votes for murderers of children, should themselves suffer the same fate that they wish on the children that are cut to pieces.
That would include you Willie if you support abortion, Supporting abortion is voting for people who support abortion too. :)
How could an amendment to the constitution be treason when the amendment becomes the constitutional law of the land ? By all means try to amend it if you don't like it . Also ;because SCOTUS has seriously misinterpreted the amendment doesn't mean the amendment is wrong. Codifying the rights of the newly-freed former slaves had to be done .
Who was charged with treason?
Yes the post-war United States had an overwhelming record of leniency concerning treason. They wanted to reunite the nation . They considered that more important than punishment .The traitor Jefferson Davis was not even tried for the crime.
Union Gen. George Thomas said in 1868; The crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand-in-hand with the defenders of the (US) Government. That appears to have come to pass.
We should also not forget the terms of the surrender at Appomattox . Grant allowed them to return to their homes "not to be disturbed by United States authority so long as they observe their paroles and the laws in force where they may reside." However ; Confederates like Nathan Bedford Forrest who led a post-war terrorist campaign and later was instrumental in the formation of the KKK should've been brought up on charges.
Wrong pete.... Human rights have a higher priority than states rights.
Hurt feelings are not a human rights issue, Willie.
It's a character flaw caused by weakness. Suck it up and toughen up. If looking at a 5X8 flag waving on a pole makes you crumble, then you should just end it all...
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
" why do you democrats put babies in commercial blenders.
If you support abortion you should be put to death. :)
Someone that complains about a flag then votes for murderers of children, should themselves suffer the same fate that they wish on the children that are cut to pieces.
That would include you Willie if you support abortion, Supporting abortion is voting for people who support abortion too. "
Have to agree Stone. Too many sweep thoughts of abortion under the rug, because it conflicts with their other beliefs / loyalty's.
I knew a guy, a self proclaimed "lay preacher", that claimed he was a "yellow dog" democrat, and also claimed to be a washed in the blood of Christ Christian. I told him that the two positions were incompatible, and that I would not insult yellow dogs by associating them with democrats. He got quite upset about that. I asked him how he, on Judgement Day would explain to God that he had belonged to, supported, and voted for a party that had promoted the murder of millions of innocent babies? He had no answer.
Apparently he placed a higher value on his loyalty to the demoncrap party, than to his purported Christian values
"Now the Confederate flag ;the flag of treason and rebellion against the United States"
Didn't the South call it the War of Secession? Didn't Southern states have the 10th amendment power to secede? I see nothing treasonous about it. There are many on this forum today calling for states to secede.
"The revolutionary right of secession is based on the Declaration of Independence and the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson and John Locke, that:
whenever any form of government becomes destructive of the ends for which it was established, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government ..."
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Lincoln wanted to stop the states from seceding and preserve the Union. He didn't give a FF about slavery.
"Lincoln replied in an open letter to Greeley. In the letter, Lincoln emphasized his primary goal: I would save the Union. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it; and if could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it."
I hold JoeBoTs almost in as much contempt as I do BushBots..
The Penn St scandal isn't about Paterno alone, it is about university-wide pedophilia ring that no doubt still exists. The stain on your degree is far worse than anything you can toss on the confederate flag.
sucks losing the war. It was ratified by the required three-fourths of the states . You do recall that the Southern States had seceeded . Passing those amendments was a small price to pay for re- admission. Without the 13th and 14th Amendments we would've gone back to status quo antebellum.
My problem with the amendment has been the interpretation of it by activist courts .
Well Vinny, as a PSU alumnus, I can always take comfort in the knowledge that you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about... just like every other topic that you bellow and bloviate about.
Wrong pete.... Human rights have a higher priority than states rights.
A contradiction in terms because it is states that enforce state laws.
The Confederacy deserved to be crushed because it was evil, regardless of whatever "rights" the states had.
I'm sorry to see you write that. I had thought you had enough of an open mind to dismiss the dogma you were taught as a child,and to reason for yourself.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
We should instead never forget what the true reason of the rebellion was about ....
Correct,but first you have to learn what it was all about before you can forget it.
It wasn't about slavery because there were slaves being kept in the north right up until after the war ended. No less personage than the General of the Union Army U.S.Grant owned slaves and didn't free them until after the war and slavery officially ended.
Or maybe you think Grant led a army against his own family?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yes the post-war United States had an overwhelming record of leniency concerning treason. They wanted to reunite the nation . They considered that more important than punishment .
HorseHillary! What they wanted to do was stabalize the situation quickly so they could swoop in with the yankee appointed judges,sheriffs,congressmen,and senators to steal all the real property they could lay their hands on for back taxes at courthouse sales where only they knew were taking place so nobody else could bid.
The War of Northern Aggression and Reconstruction were about nothing at all other than grand theft on an epic level,and a federal power grab to make the states the slaves on the federal government instead of the states being the masters of the federal government.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
We should also not forget the terms of the surrender at Appomattox . Grant allowed them to return to their homes "not to be disturbed by United States authority so long as they observe their paroles and the laws in force where they may reside." However ; Confederates like Nathan Bedford Forrest who led a post-war terrorist campaign and later was instrumental in the formation of the KKK should've been brought up on charges.
Is that you,Al Sharpton?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Didn't Southern states have the 10th amendment power to secede?
Yes,again.
Don't expect people with kneejerk leftist educations to aggree with anything not PC,though. It would make their heads explode.
Even a casual look on the face of it would tell anyone with 2 IQ points to rub together than anyone that enters a VOLUNTARY union also has the right to leave that union. There were conditions established to get the states to agree to enter the union,and one was that if the government violated any of those conditions they had a right to secede.
Even the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court advised Lincoln he had no legal right to prevent the south from seceding,and Linon's response was to threaten to send US Marshals to lock up the Chief Justice and the entire SC in a military prison until the "end of the emergency" if they published such a decision.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)