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Title: Students Call for Removal of Jefferson Davis Statue from UT Campus
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KUT - Austin
URL Source: http://kut.org/post/students-call-r ... fferson-davis-statue-ut-campus
Published: Jun 23, 2015
Author: KUT Staff
Post Date: 2015-06-23 10:35:50 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 3650
Comments: 39
In the wake of a national conversation on confederate symbols, which led South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley to announce Monday that the confederate flag would be taken down from the state Capitol building, some are bringing attention to the confederate symbols still standing here in Austin. The president of University of Texas at Austin, Greg Fenves, met Monday with student leaders who are demanding a statue of Jefferson Davis be removed from the school's campus. Davis owned dozens of slaves and was president of the Confederacy during the Civil War. "We just believe the statue represents a history of racism and intolerance, and it has no place on this campus, which is a beacon of bringing all different kinds of people together and promoting diversity," says Taral Patel, chief of staff for the UT Student Government. An online petition for removal of the statue has racked up more than 1,500 signatures since it was posted Sunday afternoon on change.org. "It feels very degrading to us, and unwelcoming. And I think that if we pay the same amount of tuition as everybody else, we have the right to feel as welcome as everybody else does," says Abigail Haile, an African American UT undergrad who signed the petition. A university spokesperson says Fenves takes the issue seriously and has been gathering information on it since he took office about two weeks ago. "The student and university leaders will work collaboratively to continue gathering all of the information and perspectives needed to make a decision about the statue," spokesperson Gary Susswein said via email. As for next steps, Susswein says the office will make an announcement, though not a final decision, later this week. Poster Comment:
The time has come to purge the neo-Confederate bigots from our society.
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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)
OR Maybe the time has come to purge the idiots & $hit stirrers from our society. We could give each of them one way tickets to any place on earth. Si vis pacem, para bellum
I know. We're already only partly living in an Alternate Universe (Where racism and unemployment is DOWN; and happiness and KumBaYah is UP). Zero's leading us to the promised land, doncha know. So let's just move all the way there- declare nothing existed before Jan 20 2009 (When THE ONE came down to lead us all) History began on Jan 20, 2009. Live it! Learn it! Love it! Praise the Name of Zero!! Hallelelujah!
I am shocked at how hollow the neo-confederates have become. Our long national nightmare is over.
In recent years, the GOP has invested heavily in voter suppression at the state level. The absolute LAST thing in the world that they want is an issue that turns African-Americans out to the polls in droves. Throwing the Confederacy under the bus is a small price to pay in hopes of capturing the Presidency in 2016. If THAT happens, you'll discover that our national nightmare has just begun.
Getting your talking points now. Good to see the DNC and MSNBC fax machine is working, Willie
Why do you deny this? Change the term voting supression to vote dampening - making it harder for people to find a polling place or to register and when regsitered make the verification enough to throw you off if you make a clerical error (leaving out your middile initial or you got married and lost your maiden name, etc).
Because it buys in to the false paradigm that there's actually a difference between the two so called parties. And it keeps the "great unwashed" at each other's throats and fighting each other - instead of fighting the real enemy The Ruling Class
What is your source for such patent crockery? The SPLC by chance? Throwing the Confederacy under the bus is a small price to pay in hopes of capturing the Presidency in 2016. If THAT happens, you'll discover that our national nightmare has just begun. "Throwing the Confederacy under the bus." Nice meme. And this started when? With this nutty anti-Christian Roof and a couple photos of a flag? Btw -- if you believe we haven't been living a nightmare already with 6 1/2 years of Hussein, then you really have jumped the shark. Voting for Hitlery or Sanders, Willie?
And it keeps the "great unwashed" at each other's throats and fighting each other - instead of fighting the real enemy The Ruling Class No, on domestic policies there is a a difference. On foreign policies both Dems and Republicans tow the ruling elite's line but on domestic stuff for the most part the ruling elite leave us alone - more or less.
It always amuses me to see fake Republicans who were once part of the Dixie- crats defend the Confederacy which is the arch nemesis of the Republican party - you know - the party of Lincoln - the most hated man in the Confederacy.
Wow. You must be a strict constitutionalist. NOT. So, how would you execute your plan, Commandante? Via Cattle Car or Zyklon B at FEMA Camps?
I'm not sure I'm following your meme. Is it your impression the "Confederacy" is being "defended" because of this flag kerfuffle?
No. I am amused people who call themselves Republicans defend a Confederate symbol. The GOP made its bones killing Confederates. Having Southern Republicans support the confederate flag just proves once again that most Southern Republicans are the racialist Dixie-crats that Nixon invited into the GOP as part of his southern strategy.
Only in the speed at which freedoms are lost or government grows. Ever since FDR, the country has moved steadily Left - albeit at different rates of speed depending on what figurehead was supposedly in charge. No - there's no REAL difference. When a culture/country/empire - whatever you want to call it - is in its death throes, there's little that can be done (short of armed rebellion WHICH I AM NOT ADVOCATING) to change it.
Defending the 1st amendment is about espousing freedom and liberty... not party affiliation. You shit on freedom by thinking you can spend someone else's money the way it makes you feel good, so, obviously you have no respect for the freedom of expression or speech. If you can't respect the freedom to spend MY MONEY the way I see fit, you sure as hell won't respect the flag I choose in my yard. Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Defending the 1st amendment is about espousing freedom and liberty... not party affiliation. Magnificent retort….though it probably went over his head.
Most goes over that socialists head. You can't reason with someone that's so WEAK, that the sight of a piece of cloth makes him crumble so bad... he demands it removed. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
What 1st amnd righst were violated?
What 1st amnd righst were violated? People have the right to not associate with you either and vote out state flags they don't like and not sell merchandise they don't like. You can fly the rebel flag from your trailer home all you want.
If you support any law that infringes upon the FREEDOM of expression (like flying a flag that has no nudity, profanity or threats printed on it)... then you support violating people's 1st amendment rights. This isn't rocket science, Einstein. Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
That does not apply anywhere here. You can still fly any flag you want that you want as a private individual. If the confederate flag is voted out - as it was voted in only in the 1960s - then so be it - no rights were violated. And in fact in some of these cases they jerry rigged it to where you will need a 2/3rds vote to change the flag. Lastly, Amazon and ebay are private companies which can decide to sell or not sell on their own. You are free not to shop there. So no, it is not rocket science but you failed using an abacus.
You said: “I am amused people who call themselves Republicans defend a Confederate symbol.” Therefore, I read your statement as a general comment referring to any and all Confederate battle flags. There was no other way for me to read it. If you had specifically meant the flag by the memorial, then you would have said “defend the Confederate symbol displayed at the memorial …” I can’t read your intent, I can only read what you post. I can agree with your statement in the post I am now replying to….since you are applying your thesis in a general manner.
That does not apply anywhere here. See, GI Read your statement the same way I did. When you said "That does not apply anywhere here"....you took your statement from a general one and transferred it to a specific one. I say all the discussion here ensued because we did not understand what you intended to mean.
You notice how the pathetically weak avoid talking about how their chest locks up and their breathing stops... and the tears flow when they see something they don't agree with or feel is offensive. They like to keep their weaknesses in the closet because THEY TRULY ARE ASHAMED... at being the lowest human, of the human species, on the food chain. How would you like to be assigned to patrol the streets with that weak sniveling pile of dung or be forced to occupy a foxhole with someone who collapses at the sight of a piece of cloth? I have no use for weak people. They cost too much to keep alive. Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I can tolerate them only for so long...
Tell that to the baker in CO and the pizza maker in Indiana. You leftist shills are the most intellectually bankrupt and hypocritical people on the planet (including ISIS as they do not pretend to be for liberty, free speech, the right of association.............) потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
What baker or pizza maker was stopped from raising the confederate flag???
So why defend the loser weak confederates? Losers.
What baker or pizza maker was stopped from raising the confederate flag??? "What 1st amnd righst were violated? People have the right to not .................. sell merchandise they don't like." Geez, you are dumb. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You just prove to me how stupid the American conservative can be. Let me tell you why you are stupid. So you want to force Amazon to sell products against their will? And that is different from eating or food prep establishments where they can't deny service to people. This is like the baker refusing to make anchovies pizza or velvet cake (a product) rather than refusing the customer. Amazon will still sell to a confederate lover - they just won't carry a particular product. I think that is stupid to make the Stars and Bars worse than the Nazi flag but conservatives also worship corporations so what are you gonna do?
Continue to shake my head in wonder over the mass stupidty and hypocrisy of you lefties, Comrade. You would be laughable in a rational, honest world. Fortunately for you and your Comrades we do not. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I am not a leftist and I have no attachment to the confederacy. It deserved to die. But you are a limited govt conservative right? What are you going to do to a private corp? Boycott Amazon if you can.
BS, the hell you ain't. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Tell that to Hillary and Obama. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I am not interested much in American political bullshit. The Clintons are war criminals who deserve life in prison.
Unlike you I have no problem putting money where my mouth you. Also unlike you I would not force others, or would have the government force others, to put their money where my mouth is. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
For such a self-professed disinterested party you sure sling a lot of it. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
" The time has come to purge the neo-Confederate bigots from our society. "
#2. To: Stoner (#1)
#3. To: Willie Green (#0)
#4. To: Pericles (#3)
I am shocked at how hollow the neo-confederates have become. Our long national nightmare is over.
#5. To: Willie Green (#4)
In recent years, the GOP has invested heavily in voter suppression at the state level.
#6. To: Rufus T Firefly, Willie Green (#5)
In recent years, the GOP has invested heavily in voter suppression at the state level.
#7. To: Pericles, Rufus T Firefly (#6)
#8. To: Pericles (#6)
Why do you deny this?
#9. To: Willie Green (#4)
In recent years, the GOP has invested heavily in voter suppression at the state level. The absolute LAST thing in the world that they want is an issue that turns African-Americans out to the polls in droves.
#10. To: Rufus T Firefly (#8)
Because it buys in to the false paradigm that there's actually a difference between the two so called parties.
#11. To: Liberator, (#9)
Throwing the Confederacy under the bus." Nice meme. And this started when? With this nutty anti-Christian Roof and a couple photos of a flag?
#12. To: Willie Green (#0)
The time has come to purge the neo-Confederate bigots from our society.
#13. To: Pericles (#11)
It always amuses me to see fake Republicans who were once part of the Dixie- crats defend the Confederacy which is the arch nemesis of the Republican party - you know - the party of Lincoln - the most hated man in the Confederacy.
#14. To: Liberator (#13)
Is it your impression the "Confederacy" is being "defended" because of this flag kerfuffle?
#15. To: Pericles (#10)
on domestic policies there is a a difference
#16. To: Pericles (#14)
(Edited)
No. I am amused people who call themselves Republicans defend a Confederate symbol
#17. To: GrandIsland (#16)
No. I am amused people who call themselves Republicans defend a Confederate symbol
#18. To: Liberator (#12)
So, how would you execute your plan, Commandante? Via Cattle Car or Zyklon B at FEMA Camps?
#19. To: Gatlin (#17)
#20. To: GrandIsland (#16)
Defending the 1st amendment is about espousing freedom and liberty... not party affiliation. You shit on freedom by thinking you can spend someone else's money the way it makes you feel good, so, obviously you have no respect for the freedom of expression or speech. If you can't respect the freedom to spend MY MONEY the way I see fit, you sure as hell won't respect the flag I choose in my yard.
#21. To: Gatlin (#17)
#22. To: Pericles (#20)
What 1st amnd righst were violated?
#23. To: GrandIsland (#22)
(Edited)
If you support any law that infringes upon the FREEDOM of expression (like flying a flag that has no nudity, profanity or threats printed on it)... then you support violating people's 1st amendment rights.
#24. To: Pericles (#21)
What 1st amnd righst were violated? People have the right to not associate with you either and vote out state flags they don't like and not sell merchandise they don't like. You can fly the rebel flag from your trailer home all you want.
#25. To: Pericles, GrandIsland (#23)
If you support any law that infringes upon the FREEDOM of expression (like flying a flag that has no nudity, profanity or threats printed on it)... then you support violating people's 1st amendment rights.
#26. To: Gatlin (#25)
Pericles.
#27. To: GrandIsland (#26)
I have no use for weak people. They cost too much to keep alive.
#28. To: Pericles, Gatlin, All (#21)
What 1st amnd righst were violated? People have the right to not .................. sell merchandise they don't like.
#29. To: SOSO, Gatlin (#28)
Tell that to the baker in CO and the pizza maker in Indiana.
#30. To: GrandIsland (#26)
I have no use for weak people. They cost too much to keep alive.
#31. To: Pericles, Gatlin (#29)
Tell that to the baker in CO and the pizza maker in Indiana.
#32. To: SOSO, Gatlin (#31)
(Edited)
What 1st amnd righst were violated? People have the right to not .................. sell merchandise they don't like."
#33. To: Pericles (#32)
I think that is stupid to make the Stars and Bars worse than the Nazi flag but conservatives also worship corporations so what are you gonna do?
#34. To: SOSO (#33)
(Edited)
#35. To: Pericles (#34)
I am not a leftist.................
#36. To: Pericles (#34)
....I have no attachment to the confederacy. It deserved to die.
#37. To: SOSO (#36)
(Edited)
I have no attachment to the confederacy. It deserved to die. Tell that to Hillary and Obama.
#38. To: Pericles (#34)
What are you going to do to a private corp? Boycott Amazon if you can.
#39. To: Pericles (#37)
I am not interested much in American political bullshit.
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