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Title: S.C. Sons of Confederate Veterans on Mother Emanuel shooting
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URL Source: http://m.charlestoncitypaper.com/Ha ... ans-on-mother-emanuel-shooting
Published: Jun 23, 2015
Author: Chris Haire
Post Date: 2015-06-23 00:12:59 by A K A Stone
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Views: 2400
Comments: 37

Chris HaireI'm not sure how this story was missed, but the division commander of the S.C. Sons of Confederate Veterans, Leland Summers, released a statement on the Emanuel AME Church shooting last Wednesday. In it, he expressed sympathy for the victims and their families, noted there were black Confederate soldiers, and proclaimed there is no connection between the Confederate flag and the Mother Emanuel shooting. Here's what Summers said in its entirety: On the night of June 17, 2015, an attempt was made to break the spirit of all South Carolinians.

The deranged mind of a horrendous individual, entered Emanuel AME Church in Charleston, and took the lives of nine admirable individuals. This historic House of God became the scene of a brutal massacre beyond understanding. We all contemplate, why did this happen?

Perhaps this is a question that cannot be answered. What kind of a world are we leaving behind for our children, when you can’t go into God’s House without the threat of being gunned down? This is, in fact a crime of hate and an act of terrorism. It is reported that the culprit’s craving was to bring about “civil” war and division between Black and White citizens of the Palmetto State. This did not happen. We will not allow it to happen. South Carolinians will stand together hand in hand regardless of race, creed, or skin color to prevent it from happening. South Carolina will not cower to the evil deeds of one hateful being.

The Sons of Confederate Veterans extends our heartfelt sympathy to the families who have lost loved ones in this tragedy. We stand with the citizens of Charleston as they come together to mourn the loss of these beloved individuals. We pray that God will grant them comfort and peace during this time of despair. Emanuel Church proclaims compassion, peace, and justice throughout the historic Grand City of the South. This congregation stands for what is right and is a force against evil. Hatred has reared its ugly face in our country masquerading as political correctness. What God has ordained as righteous and just will always be righteous and just. What God has ordained as evil will always be evil. No man, government, or principality has authority to change the will of God.

Hatred is evil. Recent acts in Charleston are just plain evil. South Carolinians have chosen to defeat evil by offering love and support of each other, rather than disobedience, distrust and destruction. Disobedience and destruction only breeds yet more hatred and evil.

Historical fact shows there were Black Confederate soldiers. These brave men fought in the trenches beside their White brothers, all under the Confederate Battle Flag. This same Flag stands as a memorial to these soldiers on the grounds of the SC Statehouse today. The Sons of Confederate Veterans, a historical honor society, does not delineate which Confederate soldier we will remember or honor. We cherish and revere the memory of all Confederate veterans. None of them, Black or White, shall be forgotten.

The SC Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans has a stringently enforced Hate Policy. We will remove any member who expresses racist hatred sentiments. Anyone with ties to racist organizations will not be granted membership. The perpetrator of the vile act in Charleston has never been a member or associated with the Sons of Confederate Veterans. Unfortunately some other subversive organizations distort Confederate symbols in an attempt to make them stand for hatred and disillusion. The SCV vehemently opposes the ideals and actions of such organizations. The Sons of Confederate Veterans has both Black and White members. In our eyes there is no difference. Our membership is made up of descendants of Native-Americans, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, Hispanics, Christians and Jewish who took a stand for the Cause they believed was right. The love and defense of the South’s symbols, culture, and heritage is not hate. It is knowing and understanding of the truth.

Not knowing your heritage is ignorance.

Our organization offers to everyone the opportunity to learn the true facts of the war fought on American soil between 1861-1865 and the heritage we value. That is why we exist. Our camps are listed on our website, www.scscv.com on our About Us Page. This is your invitation to attend any of our meetings. It is shameful and disgraceful that other organizations chose to use this heinous act to promote their political agenda. Do not associate the cowardly actions of a racist to our Confederate Banner; for it is a Banner of honorable men, both Black and White.

There is absolutely no link between The Charleston Massacre and The Confederate Memorial Banner. Don’t try to create one.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

There is absolutely no link between The Charleston Massacre and The Confederate Memorial Banner. Don’t try to create one.

First they blamed the guns, then the confederate flag, I cannot help but wonder how long it will take to blame the seeds planted that grew into the food that fed the boy.

Never blame the prescription drugs prescribed and being taken by the killer, for heaven forbid the media should insult one of their biggest sponsors.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-23   8:13:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: BobCeleste (#1)

The Confederate flag is just as vile and despicable as the Nazi Swastika.... and should be loudly repudiated with the same contempt.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-06-23   8:31:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Willie Green (#2)

The Confederate flag is just as vile and despicable as the Nazi Swastika

Why?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-23   9:26:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste (#8)

Why?

Because the Nazi Swastika and Confederate flag are both symbols of racist hatred and bigotry.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-06-23   9:53:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Willie Green, A K A Stone, GarySpFC, GrandIsland, BobCeleste, (#10) (Edited)

…Confederate flag….symbol of racist hatred and bigotry.

Is the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag quintessentially a symbol of hatred and bigotry? Anyone can in their own mind make anything a symbol of racist hatred and bigotry….just as you have done.

I am, however, among the polled half of Americans who insist that the Confederate battle flag does not express hatred and bigotry. Foremost, I can accept the sincerity of those who willing talk about their devotion to the flag and join them when they do so among other things, to honor soldiers killed in the American civil war who fought out of a sense of duty to God and family….not hatred and bigotry.

If you were to ask me what the flag symbolizes, I would say to you that in a personal way it symbolizes to me the courage and the valor shown by my 3 great grandfathers joining with others, who at the time did what they believed was the right thing to do.

Let’s consider the definitions of hatred and bigotry:

Hatred is defined as, “intense dislike.”
Bigotry is defined as an, “intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.”

To those who say the Confederate battle flag symbolizes hatred and bigotry, I say that I am sure the flag flown outside the South Carolina statehouse will come down. But to you, Willie, I ask if hatred and bigotry are not the driving factors to bring it down? Hmmm…

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-23   11:26:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin, A K A Stone, GarySpFC, GrandIsland, BobCeleste (#14)

But to you, Willie, I ask if hatred and bigotry are not the driving factors to bring it down? Hmmm…

Yes, you’re a racist… and a traitor.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-06-23   12:06:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green, A K A Stone, GarySpFC, GrandIsland, BobCeleste (#15) (Edited)

But to you, Willie, I ask if hatred and bigotry are not the driving factors to bring it down? Hmmm…

Yes, you’re a racist… and a traitor.

You didn't understand the question, Willie.

Furthermore, you are being unreasonable to advocate that only your opinion is correct and eveyone who will not agree with you is entirely wrong..

There are those who feel the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag portrays the valor of their forefathers and symbolizes those brave men who accepted their defeat….many of their descendants have gone on to make the ultimate sacrifice in battle to ensure freedom and justice for all of us.

I am repulsed by the very few individuals who kidnap this magnificent symbol for use in their personal agendas and destructive vendettas. It is extremely unfair to judge solely by the misguided actions of a few ignorant and demented white supremacist.

So, Willie, let’s look at this a little deeper. What else did Dylann Roof have? Oh, Yea….a black Hyundai vehicle. Should all black Hyundai vehicles be declared symbols of hatred and bigotry? That would your line of reasoning....right, Willie?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-23   13:05:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Gatlin, GarySpFc (#16)

There are those who feel the Army of Northern Virginia battle flag portrays the valor of their forefathers and symbolizes those brave men who accepted their defeat….many of their descendants have gone on to make the ultimate sacrifice in battle to ensure freedom and justice for all of us.

It's amazing some want to erase the full story of history. The vast majority who died on the Confederate side never owned slaves.

History needs to be told completely. Good, the bad and the warts and all.

From a military history perspective...don't know about you but out of all the generals of the Civil War era, General Robert E. Lee is the most read of all. It's because he won more battles with less men and resources. Not to mention better subordinate leaders.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-23   13:34:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: redleghunter (#17)

General Robert E. Lee

Lee was a great general, he knew how to surround himself with highly competent staff and select effective leaders he could trust and knew would do their jobs. He was one of those leaders who had the natural innate ability to motivate and get the best out of people.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-23   14:11:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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