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I ask because I consider the three of you the best researchers on LF. And you each have a large following. Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 12. #4. To: BobCeleste (#0) "I consider the three of you the best researchers" Deckard might be the most diligent searcher for anti-law and order stories, but he researches nothing -- as evidenced by all the posts shredding his posted articles. nolu chan would be the one to ask. Or me. But I think it would be a waste of time since you're looking at correlation, not causation. misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-22   8:55:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #7. To: misterwhite (#4) Bob's little informal study is most likely a waste if time without also researching how many of these killers also had an illegal substance mixed with their prescribed antidepressants. Marihuana, synthetic weed and narcotics can alter the effects of antidepressants. You'd have to be foolish to not realize at least 85% of these killers smoked weed like they were the descendents of Cheech & Chong. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-22   9:09:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #10. To: GrandIsland (#7) You'd have to be foolish to not realize at least 85% of these killers smoked weed like they were the descendents of Cheech & Chong. Oh,yeah. The old "Killer Weed" nonsense spouted by a life-long cog in the machine that knows nothing but what he has been conditioned to believe. This is your knee-jerk reaction to justify a career spent arresting people and having them put into prison for what amounts to nothing. sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-22   9:19:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #12. To: sneakypete (#10) This is your knee-jerk reaction to justify a career spent arresting people and having them put into prison for what amounts to nothing. Relax, Francis. I'm not sales pitching any anti weed statements. I'm simply making a very reasonable statement that most turds do smoke weed and weed does alter the effects of anti depressants. Bob's backyard scientific study might end up a nightmare for the pro weed crowd... if a real scientific study was conducted. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-22   9:28:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 12. #13. To: GrandIsland (#12) I'm simply making a very reasonable statement that most turds do smoke weed and weed does alter the effects of anti depressants. Bob's backyard scientific study might end up a nightmare for the pro weed crowd... if a real scientific study was conducted. The only other idiotic anti-marijuana zealot trying to make that dubious contention is a Carter henchman. Joseph A. Califano, Jr. While on the other hand, all of the other research has shown that the FDA APPROVED drugs have been responsible in part for the mass shootings that have occurred since Columbine. (You remember Columbine, don't you sparky...where the cops cowered behind threes while the kids inside the school were being gunned down?) Marijuana Arrests, Mass Killings, Psychotropic Drugs and Guns — It’s Time to Reevaluate the Conversations While our nation has remained fixated on illicit drug use — such as marijuana, which hurts no one — we ignore science, we ignore medicine, and we ignore good common sense. There is more than one very important message that has not been getting out when it comes to drugs. Psychiatrist David Healy explains: “Violence and other potentially criminal behavior caused by prescription drugs are medicine’s best kept secret. Never before in the fields of medicine and law have there been so many events with so much concealed data and so little focused expertise.” (International Society for Ethical Psychology and Psychiatry, ISEEP). Despite numerous studies devoted to proving (and or looking for) the harmful effects of whatever our government has arbitrarily and conveniently labeled illegal (such as marijuana), there is a serious need for a solid investigation between the relationship between psychotropic drugs and violence (ISEEP). These are just a few notes from ISEEP and things we already know regarding psychotropic drug use and certain related crimes: In the Columbine school shooting, the shooter Eric Harris was taking Luvox and Dylan Klebold had taken Zoloft and Paxil. Michael McDermott was on three antidepressants when he killed seven of his fellow employees in the Wakefield, Massachusetts massacre. Kip Kinkel was on Prozac when he killed his parents and then killed two children and wounded 25 at a nearby school. In fourteen recent school shootings (over 100 wounded and 58 killed), the acts were committed by persons taking or withdrawing from psychiatric drugs. In other school shootings, information about the shooter’s prescription drug use and medical history were kept from public records. (ISEEP) This news is not new. Although there is obviously more than one issue, including mental health issues, it would appear that there is a possibility that at least in some of those cases, psychiatric medications perhaps had some influence on the chain of events leading up to the shootings. We don’t know that for sure. We do, however, know that some of those drugs have caused problems with violence and suicide in the past; we have known that for a while. Every once in a while there will be mention of such; then you don’t hear much else about it (Breggin, 2013). This issue has not generated a whole lot of discussion or research. Deckard  posted on  2015-06-22 09:47:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 12. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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