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Title: Republicans Really Not Happy John Kasich Told Them They Are Monsters
Source: Intelligencer
URL Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence ... sich-called-them-monsters.html
Published: Jun 19, 2015
Author: Jonathan Chait
Post Date: 2015-06-19 17:21:33 by Willie Green
Keywords: None
Views: 1310
Comments: 8

John Kasich is earnestly running for president, perhaps blissfully unaware of just how deeply he violated his party’s moral code. As governor of Ohio, Kasich accepted the Medicaid expansion that is part of the Affordable Care Act, thereby providing medical care to some half-million Ohioans. Worse still, Kasich framed his decision not just as a concession to his state’s budgetary needs but as a matter of conscience.

Alex Isenstadt reports that Kasich offended a number of party donors at a Koch-organized conference last year. Randy Kendrick, a major party contributor and wife of the owner of the Arizona Diamondbacks, objected to Kasich’s moral defense of the Medicaid expansion:

The governor’s response was fiery. “I don’t know about you, lady,” he said as he pointed at Kendrick, his voice rising. “But when I get to the Pearly Gates, I’m going to have an answer for what I’ve done for the poor.”

The exchange left many stunned. Around 20 audience members walked out of the room, and two governors also on the panel, Nikki Haley of South Carolina and Bobby Jindal of Louisiana, told Kasich they disagreed with him. The Ohio governor has not been invited back to a Koch seminar — opportunities for presidential aspirants to mingle with the party’s rich and powerful — in the months since.

It’s worth contemplating just how deeply Kasich’s heresy runs. Conservatives disagree about the optimal health-care policy they would implement in a world without political constraints. The closest a Republican can come to insisting upon the need to provide some alternative to Obamacare is to insist that repealing the law is not enough, that the party must put in place an alternative plan as well. A Republican can argue that their alternative plan is better than Obamacare, and that their alternative plan is better than the pre-Obamacare status quo. The thing you cannot say, and remain a Republican in good standing, is that Obamacare is better than the pre-Obamacare status quo.

But that is the fissure Kasich exposed. As a governor, the choice he faced was not the hypothetical one that Republicans prefer, between Obamacare and an imagined Republican plan that doesn’t impose costs on anybody. His choice was whether to accept the Medicaid expansion or let poor Ohioans suffer. He chose the former. And he defended his choice by stating that the alternative is cruel and barbaric.

Obscuring the moral basis of that actual real-world choice is the whole basis of contemporary Republican policy-making. If you’re sitting around the back room of the Bada Bing club and you suggest maybe shifting some operations out of racketeering and into stock scams, you're probably okay. If you just come out and say that beating people up and stealing their money is immoral and you won’t do it, they’re not going to pick you to be the next head of the family.

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#1. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

Republicans Really Not Happy John Kasich Told Them They Are Monsters

Kasich, another in the group of brainwashed compliant victims seeking to ride the tide of fellow compliant victims into the White House. Like many others, he doesn't have a rebuttal to Marxist counterculturalism. Marxist counterculturists feed him lines which he is too stupid to refute and he runs with them.

rlk  posted on  2015-06-19   17:41:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

"His choice was whether to accept the Medicaid expansion or let poor Ohioans suffer."

Hey, for the first 3 years the federal government picks up 100% the costs for new Medicaid participants. Real easy to say you care for the poor when the feds are picking up the tab.

After 3 years, however, the feds only pay 90%. So, sign up 1 million new people and after three years you're paying 10% -- or, put another way, you're paying 100% of the medical care for 100,000 people.

How you gonna pay for that, Mr. I-care-with-other-people's-money? Plus, how long will the federal government keep their promise of 90%? It'll be 50% before you know what hit you.

You idiot.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-19   19:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: misterwhite, Willie Green, Too Conservative, nolu chan (#2)

Medicaid expansion/Medicaid participants

So I'm curious as to who is going to get those peoples property when they die, the federal government or the state government??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-19   21:06:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: misterwhite (#2)

Plus, how long will the federal government keep their promise of 90%?

Depends on which 90 percent you are talking about. If they are minority voters that the Dims can depend on to keep them in power,they will provide them with "free" medical care if they have to see a few aircraft carriers to Iran.

The few remaining white middle-class workers will get hosed. The goal is to get them on the feral "gravy train"/plantation along with the minorities so they are dependent on the government,too.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-19   21:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: CZ82 (#3)

So I'm curious as to who is going to get those peoples property when they die, the federal government or the state government??

Bankers. Some of them may even be Americans. Or nominally Americans,anyhow. Most will have dual passports,and even the ones that don't consider themselves to be Citizens of the World that just happen to have been born in America.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-19   21:27:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: sneakypete (#5)

Bankers.

Yea you're probably right, it for sure won't be family members who are still alive.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-19   21:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: CZ82 (#6)

it for sure won't be family members who are still alive.

They will be cogs in the machine.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-19   22:14:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: CZ82 (#3)

"So I'm curious as to who is going to get those peoples property when they die"

You mean the "estates" of Medicaid recipients?

Depends if they have a will. If they don't, their estate goes to the state in which they reside.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-20   9:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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