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Title: Pope Francis warns of destruction of Earth's ecosystem in leaked encyclical
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The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/20 ... on-ecosystem-leaked-encyclical
Published: Jun 16, 2015
Author: Stephanie Kirchgaessner & John Hooper
Post Date: 2015-06-16 14:37:17 by redleghunter
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Pope Francis will this week call for changes in lifestyles and energy consumption to avert the “unprecedented destruction of the ecosystem” before the end of this century, according to a leaked draft of a papal encyclical. In a document released by an Italian magazine on Monday, the pontiff will warn that failure to act would have “grave consequences for all of us”. Francis also called for a new global political authority tasked with “tackling … the reduction of pollution and the development of poor countries and regions”. His appeal echoed that of his predecessor, pope Benedict XVI, who in a 2009 encyclical proposed a kind of super-UN to deal with the world’s economic problems and injustices. According to the lengthy draft, which was obtained and published by L’Espresso magazine, the Argentinean pope will align himself with the environmental movement and its objectives. While accepting that there may be some natural causes of global warming, the pope will also state that climate change is mostly a man-made problem. Poster Comment: NWO Pope....
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#70. To: A K A Stone, SOSO, redleghunter (#32)
Amen. On the position of abortion, its support provides a telling litmus test of "Christian/NON-Christian."
"Mainstream" Christianity is a compromised river of polluted Christianity diverted to Hell. Christian traditionalism is all but dead save in small enclaves. Agree.
I'm pretty sure we had the discussion before the 2014 elections so I know the numbers have changed somewhat, just not sure by how many. Just because someone claims to be Catholic, Baptist etc, etc, doesn't mean they actually are, most of them probably pick/say what they think their constituency will vote for. I remember that when you enlisted in the military and they asked you what religion you were and you didn't know or didn't care to share, you automatically became a PROTESTANT and that is what went on your Dog Tags!!! So I guess my question is would a truly religious person do the things our politicians do with legislation that only benefit themselves and their ambition for power??? (They're knowingly screwing their constituency/fellow man all so they can feel good about themselves). I was under the impression that the word of God meant you are supposed to act in a way that benefits everyone?? If this isn't true then there are a lot of people ignoring their faith by voting for these jokers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Bruce Jenner "identifies" as a "woman"; There's white NAACP leader who now "identifies" as "black." Suddenly down is up and wrong is right? Congress (as a group) is demonstratively un-"Christian." You unilateally changed the discussion by introducing yor biases and beliefs. "Biases and beliefs" based upon scriptural truths are what traditionally have guided us to discerned right from wrong in THIS country. Am I wrong? Now that the truth is blurred by personal "identification," and truth as well as "right and wrong" is now relative. No wonder this nation swirls us down the john like yesterday's morning deuce.
Just because someone claims to be Catholic, Baptist etc, etc, doesn't mean they actually are, most of them probably pick/say what they think their constituency will vote for. Yup, I think you're right on the content of that discussion. On the subject of "religious affiliation," it means NOTHING these days. Any "Christians" who voted for 0blabla, Klinton, or Pelosi are only kidding/lying to themselves. I remember that when you enlisted in the military and they asked you what religion you were and you didn't know or didn't care to share, you automatically became a PROTESTANT and that is what went on your Dog Tags!!! Hmmm....You've seen those crosses at the cemetery at Normandy? Naturally, you think, "Wow -- sooo many Christians!" Well...God only knows. I guess my question is would a truly religious person do the things our politicians do with legislation that only benefit themselves and their ambition for power??? Great, simple question and litmus test for integrity. Answer: NO. (They're knowingly screwing their constituency/fellow man all so they can feel good about themselves). I was under the impression that the word of God meant you are supposed to act in a way that benefits everyone?? Yep. demonstrate a "love of fellow man." NOT betrayal. But again -- since these days people shamelessly redefine reality, "good" can be redefined." This as they who lord over us sell us out in broad daylight. Arrogantly. Spitefully. WITH malice and dishonorably. (Now whether by 11:59 they've repented, again, God only knows.)
Like Obama, they're both foreign born and ineligible to be president of the US. At least McCain had two US citizen parents, whereas Rafael only had an American mother. Raffie Sr. didn't bother to become a US citizen until around 2005. He was in no hurry to renounce his allegiance to Fidel and the Communist party. Teddy Cruz is doubly ineligible like Obama, foreign parent and foreign born. Don't worry the Democrats don't give a damn about the Constitution either, so that old thing won't stop anyone from becoming president of this NWO banana republic. According to Hondopey, not the constitution. A Servicemember who is stationed overseas and has a kid. That kid isn't eligible to be President. But a wetback who comes here and squats a kid out. That kid is eligible in your twisted mind. According to the constitution. McCain is certainly eligible. His parents were both Americans you moron.
McCain's birth certificate says "Panama" because he was born there. Duhh! George Romney's BC says "Mexico" because he was born there, of two US citizen parents. Even the GOP wouldn't let him run for president in '68, Nixon won instead. Yawn. Hillary loves you.
I notice this as top item on Drudge now, suggesting a daft old commie pope in craven pursuit of the world's approval but with the wool getting pulled over his eyes by liberal cardinals at the Vatican.
Liberator asked a good question... why was the other Pope replaced while he's still alive? Something fishy, for sure.
That may have just been a convenient excuse. Remember,Romney is the guy that bankrupted American Motors. Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
He claimed failing health and feeling unable to lead the church. It does happen, has happened many times in history. You notice he's not very visible these days outside a rare sighting at a mass. My guess is that he got an Alzheimers diagnoses and stepped down.
"Suddenly down is up and wrong is right?" {as a result of biases and beliefs} Are you wrong? To which of your statements are you referring? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You mean "the right thing" as in the original U.S.Consitution which allowed slavery and prohibited women from voting? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
That's the biggest reason they want to do away with morality as we now know it, so nobody will hold them responsible for their actions. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
:) Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
An analogy you will NEVER see on an SAT exam:) Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
No they don't. So are they lying to themselves? Their constituents? God? Or...ALL of us?? Well the ones who run on Christian worldview values should be voting that way. Period. And I am not talking about theocracy here. I'm talking about promoting the Christian worldview of morals and life issues. Yet there are those who say they are Christian but apply compartmentalization. For example, the politician who professes being a Christian yet is pro-choice and uses the excuse that they 'cannot impose their moral standards on others.' Yet they vote for pro-choice type legislation or are 'indifferent' to the issue. Such an approach can be explained as someone who is a new Christian and still developing their worldview; are not familiar with the Scriptures and are beginning their discipleship. Such need our prayers, their church teachers and pastors to lead them to the truth. On the other hand you have those who self identify with a Christian worldview yet have been vocal advocates for abortion and have a voting history which is pro-choice. Such is the example of compartmentalization. Or worse open deception. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
I give consideration (as I mentioned in a previous post) of the spiritual maturity of a new born again believer. Yes there is a transformation of heart and mind, but some of our old understandings and ways must be 'worked out' in the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit. Proper personal study, prayer and growth in the faith along with proper church discipleship and mentorship leads a new believer to the truths of God. This is why you see quite a few young in age or new adult Christians grapple with issues such as abortion. Some have been programmed from childhood outside of God's Truth. So the above I would consider before applying the litmus paper:) And we should always remember, even the most hardened pro abort types like Nancy Pelosi by God's Grace and for His Glory can become a child of God. God works wonders and usually on the most hard cases...Saul of Tarsus included in that as well. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
Matthew 7:13-14King James Version (KJV) 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
Human? And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6
If this isn't true then there are a lot of people ignoring their faith by voting for these jokers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Such wisdom from an old AF NCO! You hit that one out of the ball park. So yes, following Christ is NOT about SELF. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
Bravo. Well stated. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Wearing the 'white' version of the Emperor Palpatine garb to boot. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
This is really a silly question. Of course they would at times. We all would at times. That is becuase we are all less than perfect and are all sinners. Fortunately for us one stumble doesn't define the entirety of our relationship with God. He forgives those that truly repent in their heart, even if we make the same stumble over and over and over again and sincerely repent. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Why? This is like saying integrity means nothing. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Sounds like someone is trying to prop themselves up even though they know they aren't a good person. So they lie to themselves and everyone else to make themselves feel good about themselves. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
This is really a silly question. Why? This is like saying integrity means nothing. I explained why. It's because we all are sinners. The real question is do we recognize and repent for our sins. I can't believe that you do not understand that "real" Christians sin, usually a lot over the course of they life time. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
That is becuase we are all less than perfect and are all sinners. Fortunately for us one stumble doesn't define the entirety of our relationship with God. He forgives those that truly repent in their heart, even if we make the same stumble over and over and over again and sincerely repent. Sounds like someone is trying to prop themselves up even though they know they aren't a good person. So they lie to themselves and everyone else to make themselves feel good about themselves. It would be awfully unChristian like for that someone to call you a totally delusional prick. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I wasn't referring to you so don't take it personally. So what you are saying it's alright to be a sinner and as long as you keep apologizing for those sins (what's the idiom for that "lie like an old rug") that you won't be held responsible for those sins?? (Isn't that a good definition of the word delusional)?? I guess I'm not as forgiving as you cause I feel people should be held responsible for their actions. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Repentance means turning away. So I see what you are saying. But a repentant heart is also a gift of God's Grace. Without God transforming the heart and mind of the sinner, a person is incapable of satisfying Him. Only The Son of God was a Sacrifice pleasing to The Father. Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
50 years ago I might have been able to grasp that concept but nowadays not so much, and it seems to be getting exponentially worse by the day. So I wonder if guys like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot repented right at the end and were forgiven?? “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Jesus Christ pardoned the criminal on the cross next to him.
Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)
And what was the criminals sin I'm not sure what it was?
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
No, delusional is interpreting what I said as you just stated. What about the words "sincerely repent" don't you understand? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You can ask God when you see Him. Does anyone human know exactly when Jesus makes His judgment on us? Is it before the instant of death? After? During? Does He allow one to repent on the death bed or immediately thereafter? People like Bob Celest claims that he knows for certain that he will be going to Heaven. So I gues he can phone in the rest of his life on Earth and not need to worry about his sinning. I have wonder more about the mind set of the Bob's of this world than in Jesus' mercy on us sinners. потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
I'd had a Catholic friend pose the very same great question. That's why it's called "Grace"; AMAZING Grace, actually, right? :-) Yes, it blows minds. Answer: YES. Important case and point: As Red alluded to, that criminal from his own cross asked Jesus to remember him, and was promised "Paradise" by the grace of Jesus Himself. Now whether the above infamous serial evil-doers did repent at 11:59:59 PM of their lives and gave it all the Jesus that moment (or beforehand)...God only knows. As to "serial sinners" who claim they "know" the Lord, He *is* going to know their heart, won't He? There's no conning The Almighty. No more touching lyrics of hope to a song than this...because it says it all:
To me the word "sincerely" means they are promising to NEVER EVER do something again, not apologizing every other day/week/month for the same transgression. (After awhile that persons word has little meaning anymore). Sooner or later people have to start using their "big head" to think all the time instead of using the "little head" on the weekends. I know that's a stretch for most people in today's world but not that many years ago "your word was your bond"!! “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
To me there are some sins that are unforgivable BTA that's just me. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Where's the beef?
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#71. To: SOSO, redleghunter (#33)
You fail to realize that "THEY" are what pass for mainstream Christians these days and have a different view of the tenets of Christianity than you or I. I include the Pope in the current mainstream category.
#72. To: Liberator, SOSO, redleghunter (#43)
#73. To: SOSO, A K A Stone (#36)
The fact is that over 90% of Congress identify themself as Christian.
#74. To: CZ82 (#72)
I'm pretty sure we had the discussion before the 2014 elections so I know the numbers have changed somewhat, just not sure by how many.
#75. To: Liberator, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#48)
Comparing McStain to Cruz is insane.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#76. To: hondo68 (#75)
Like Obama, they're both foreign born and ineligible to be president of the US.
#77. To: A K A Stone, what a maroon (#76)
(Edited)
you moron
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#78. To: hondo68 (#77)
#79. To: Liberator, hondo68, redleghunter, A K A Stone (#74)
CONFIDENCE IN RELIGION HITS NEW LOW 
#80. To: TooConservative, Liberator (#79)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#81. To: hondo68 (#77)
George Romney's BC says "Mexico" because he was born there, of two US citizen parents. Even the GOP wouldn't let him run for president in '68, Nixon won instead.
#82. To: hondo68, Liberator (#80)
Liberator asked a good question... why was the other Pope replaced while he's still alive? Something fishy, for sure.
#83. To: Liberator, A K A Stone (#73)
"Biases and beliefs" based upon scriptural truths are what traditionally have guided us to discerned right from wrong in THIS country. Am I wrong?
#84. To: Liberator (#73)
"Biases and beliefs" based upon scriptural truths are what traditionally have guided us to discerned right from wrong in THIS country.
#85. To: Liberator, domer (#74)
Yep. demonstrate a "love of fellow man." NOT betrayal. But again -- since these days people shamelessly redefine reality, "good" can be redefined." This as they who lord over us sell us out in broad daylight. Arrogantly. Spitefully. WITH malice and dishonorably. (Now whether by 11:59 they've repented, again, God only knows.)
#86. To: Liberator (#57)
Pope Benny was made "an offer" he couldn't refuse.
#87. To: Liberator (#66)
THIS Pope is as much an authority on science -- as well as the word of God -- as 0blabla is an authority on the Constitution. Coincidence??
#88. To: Liberator, SOSO, A K A Stone, GarySpFc, BobCeleste (#68)
They sure don't legislate according to their Christian ideals/worldview.
#89. To: Liberator, A K A Stone, GarySpFc (#70)
On the position of abortion, its support provides a telling litmus test of "Christian/NON-Christian."
#90. To: Liberator, SOSO (#71)
"Mainstream" Christianity is a compromised river of polluted Christianity diverted to Hell.
#91. To: A K A Stone (#34)
She isn't a christian. Give me a break.
#92. To: CZ82, Liberator, SOSO (#72)
So I guess my question is would a truly religious person do the things our politicians do with legislation that only benefit themselves and their ambition for power??? (They're knowingly screwing their constituency/fellow man all so they can feel good about themselves). I was under the impression that the word of God meant you are supposed to act in a way that benefits everyone??
#93. To: Liberator, redleghunter (#71)
"Mainstream" Christianity is a compromised river of polluted Christianity diverted to Hell.
#94. To: TooConservative (#79)
#95. To: CZ82, Liberator, redleghunter (#72)
So I guess my question is would a truly religious person do the things our politicians do with legislation that only benefit themselves and their ambition for power???
#96. To: SOSO (#95)
This is really a silly question.
#97. To: SOSO, redleghunter, Liberator (#95)
That is becuase we are all less than perfect and are all sinners. Fortunately for us one stumble doesn't define the entirety of our relationship with God. He forgives those that truly repent in their heart, even if we make the same stumble over and over and over again and sincerely repent.
#98. To: CZ82 (#96)
#99. To: CZ82 (#97)
#100. To: SOSO (#99)
#101. To: CZ82 (#100)
#102. To: redleghunter, SOSO (#101)
#103. To: CZ82 (#102)
#104. To: redleghunter (#103)
#105. To: CZ82 (#100)
So what you are saying it's alright to be a sinner and as long as you keep apologizing for those sins (what's the idiom for that "lie like an old rug") that you won't be held responsible for those sins?? (Isn't that a good definition of the word delusional)??
#106. To: CZ82, redleghunter, Bob Celeste (#102)
So I wonder if guys like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot repented right at the end and were forgiven??
#107. To: CZ82, redleghunter, SOSO, Bob Celeste (#102)
I wonder if guys like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot repented right at the end and were forgiven??
#108. To: SOSO (#105)
He forgives those that truly repent in their heart, even if we make the same stumble over and over and over again and sincerely repent.
#109. To: Liberator (#107)
Yes, it blows minds. Answer: YES.
#110. To: Liberator, CZ82, redleghunter, SOSO, Bob Celeste (#107)
No more touching lyrics of hope to a song than this...because it says it all:
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