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Title: Pope Francis warns of destruction of Earth's ecosystem in leaked encyclical
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/20 ... on-ecosystem-leaked-encyclical
Published: Jun 16, 2015
Author: Stephanie Kirchgaessner & John Hooper
Post Date: 2015-06-16 14:37:17 by redleghunter
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Pope Francis will this week call for changes in lifestyles and energy consumption to avert the “unprecedented destruction of the ecosystem” before the end of this century, according to a leaked draft of a papal encyclical. In a document released by an Italian magazine on Monday, the pontiff will warn that failure to act would have “grave consequences for all of us”.

Francis also called for a new global political authority tasked with “tackling … the reduction of pollution and the development of poor countries and regions”. His appeal echoed that of his predecessor, pope Benedict XVI, who in a 2009 encyclical proposed a kind of super-UN to deal with the world’s economic problems and injustices.

According to the lengthy draft, which was obtained and published by L’Espresso magazine, the Argentinean pope will align himself with the environmental movement and its objectives. While accepting that there may be some natural causes of global warming, the pope will also state that climate change is mostly a man-made problem.

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#36. To: A K A Stone (#32)

Or how about this. Every democrat that is in favor of abortion is not a christian.

Only a fool would think that 92 percent of congress is saved.

You unilateally changed the discussion by introducing yor biases and beliefs. The fact is that over 90% of Congress identify themself as Christian. Only God knows just how Christian they are.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-17   15:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: SOSO (#36)

Only God knows just how Christian they are.

See above about the fruit.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-17   15:38:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: SOSO (#36)

You unilateally changed the discussion by introducing yor biases and beliefs.

I think it is a fact that the Bible teaches that Wide is the way to death and narrow is the gate to life. I know for certain that congress isn't the exception and only 34 aren't saved. You're fooling yourself if you tell yourself otherwise.

You're mistake is giving people the benefit of the doubt. A mistake.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-17   15:40:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: A K A Stone (#34)

The mainstream Christian, such as Pelosi

She isn't a christian. Give me a break.

De facto she is. She more closely represents the beliefs and lifestyle of the vast majority of self-avowed Christians, not only in the U.S. but around the globe. You may not like that but it is true. I would leave the judgment of who is and who is not a Christian up to God. Of course you are free to express your opinion on the matter but that would only be your opinion and not necessarily valid.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-17   15:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: A K A Stone (#38)

You're fooling yourself if you tell yourself otherwise.

I haven't told myself, or you for that matter, anything other than over 90% of Congress self-identify as being Christian. That is a documented fact.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-17   15:45:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: SOSO (#33)

You fail to realize that "THEY" are what pass for mainstream Christians these days and have a different view of the tenets of Christianity than you or I. I include the Pope in the current mainstream category. Christian traditionalism is all but dead save in small enclaves. The mainstream Christian, such as Pelosi, are much more secular in his morals, values and beliefs about God and Man.

Oh I'm locked on to what's going on:) I threw that out there to get you spun up and come up with the comment you did above, which I agree with.

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-17   15:53:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Rufus T Firefly (#6)

Has anyone else noticed?

Algore seems to have fallen off the face of the earth - - just about the time this new pope arrived on the scene.

Coincidence?

It's also no coincidence that since the Agitator-in-Chief arrived on the scene that ALL institutional truth, logic, and sanity have been replaced by anti-truth, il-logic, and in-sanity run amok.

AlGore has had no need to carry the "Global Warming" football any longer for the NWO. The Vatican's anti-Christ fraud and the Agitator-in-Chief do a much better job of matriculating the socialist, anti-capitalist, subversive football down the field.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: CZ82, SOSO (#7)

You're welcome, sir.

We've had this discussion before (especially about the judges) but don't remember if it was here or LP, SOSO must have missed it.

I believe you're right about having discussed this subject matter. Perhaps SOSO wasn't privy to the discussion.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#8)

I've seen some reports that some libs at the Vatican released a few select quotes from a very preliminary draft of the encylical and they are daring the pope to contradict it much in the final document.

This is, however, a convenient way to poll-test how far the pope can go in his craven pursuit of mass media approval.

"SOME" libs at the Vatican?? The entire palace including it miles of underground dungeons are crawling with liberal subversives.

I'm not of the opinion that this Pope is being baited or cornered into contradictory positions, although I can see how his cadre of demonic manipulators are trying to portray the constant stream of "mis-statements" or "misunderstandings" as THE case. This Pope is FULLY on board OPERATION: SUBVERSION.

I do concur -- not unlike 0blabla and *his* handlers -- that the Vatican's handlers are shoving the social activism/chaos envelope as far as possible to provide a gauge and degree of push-back (or lack thereof.) No one is "mad as hell and NOT gonna take it anymore." YET. Even as this Pope and 0blabla have long jumped the shark of credibility.

In this age of media worship and instant "Thumbs-Up" -- from the Pope to the President...from one world "leader" to another -- there seems to be a craven demand for personal attention, power, and approval. And damn principle and virtue.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:48:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: TooConservative, redleghunter (#8)

A truly lousy pope, all around.

Were it that this Pope were merely "lousy." He's more "anti-Christ" than lousy. And yes, I am serious.

(Has it ever been fully explained yet why THIS Pontiff suddenly replaced the former before his demise? OR are we all supposed to ignore *that* elephant in the room?)

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:51:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: redleghunter (#9)

LOL, those are mighty big mercury laden bulbs:)

HEH!

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:51:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Liberator, TooConservative (#44)

No one is "mad as hell and NOT gonna take it anymore." YET.

Go over to FR sometime and see what Catholics think of their own Pope. You know the Pope they are supposed to be obeying:)

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-17   16:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: hondo68 (#10)

Now we know, the Pope is a Republican at heart. If Panamanian McCain can run for US president, why not the Argentine pontiff and the Canadian Cruz?

Come on, Hondo. Comparing McStain to Cruz is insane.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: redleghunter (#47)

ARE they...ticked off?? REALLY??

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:53:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: redleghunter, hondo68 (#11)

McCain is a Republican? Didn't notice that.

Gotcha, Hondo. Lol

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:54:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: hondo68, redleghunter (#12)

You don't get to be the GOP presidential candidate, without being a REAL Republican.

You don't get to be Pope, without being a REAL Catholic.

OK?

Well, in both cases you have a hijacking of the original item.

The GOP is jacked. The Vatican hijacked Christ's Gospel AND good name ("Vicar of Christ"?? I don't think so. Never was.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: tomder55 (#18)

Pope Goracle I

+1

Yup. This crusade of this Pope (and political hand-off from AlGore) is stranger than fiction.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Justified (#21)

Now we know who wrote the scripted for the movie "NOAH"!

OMG they only got the names and the flood right in that movie! Everything else was made up out of thin air! What a waste of resources that went into that movie!

Clever observations :-)

The pope should have been upset about the movie not "God's" global weather change!

Proving that when you're an anti-Christ masquerading as "Pope," the fidelity of Scripture doesn't even register.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Liberator, TooConservative (#45)

Has it ever been fully explained yet why THIS Pontiff suddenly replaced the former before his demise?

Unlike JP I who died within 30 days or so of his office, Benedict did not get the poison tea. I think the movie godfather III tried to link all the Vatican bankster stuff and the death of JP I. Or as in the movie we have this:

Maybe Benedict knew the deal on that and avoided his evening tea and just stepped down.

I could not find a good youtube link for the part of gF III where the Pope dies 'in his sleep.'

Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved. (Psalm 62:1-2)

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-17   17:09:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: SOSO (#22) (Edited)

Almost 60% of Congress is Protestant. There has only been one Catholic POTUS. You are correct about SCOTUS, it has six Catholics and three Jews. But SCOTUS is not an elected body, at least not directly so.

Have you a source for your In-Name-Only stats?

Listen -- ALL that matters is ALL that affect us is RIGHT NOW. As well as the decisions made by SCOTUS and this corrupt globalist-hijacked gubmint since 1965. NO real Christian has been part of those decisions to destroy this republic and run God out of Dodge.

Can you tell me how in the world a nation whose majority identify as "Protestant" have ZERO Protestants out of NINE on SCOTUS??

Right -- SCOTUS is NOT an elected body but the only one of three bodies of government that aren't, but raqther assigned by the behind-the-scene POWER BROKERS and Puppetmeisters.

About 92% of COngress is Christian. Catholics represent about 30% of the U.S. population, Pressies about 60%. Both Pressies and Catholics are slightly over represented in Congress vis-vis their respective makeup of the U.S. population. The only truly over represented religous group in Congress are Jews, with only about 2% of the U.S. population over 7% of Congress is Jewish.

You know who's actually "over-represented"?? Socialists; "Catholics-IN-Name-Only"; Pro-Abortionists; Secular Humanist elites; Lesbo & Sodomites; Atheists; New Age freaks; and those who hate the USA and God.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:13:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Liberator (#55)

Almost 60% of Congress is Protestant. There has only been one Catholic POTUS. You are correct about SCOTUS, it has six Catholics and three Jews. But SCOTUS is not an elected body, at least not directly so.

Have you a source for your In-Name-Only stats?

ping #29

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-17   17:19:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: redleghunter (#54)

Unlike JP I who died within 30 days or so of his office, Benedict did not get the poison tea. I think the movie godfather III tried to link all the Vatican bankster stuff and the death of JP I.

So...Pope Benny was made "an offer" he couldn't refuse. No cup of tea; No magic bullet aimed at the Pope-Mobile from a grassy knoll.

Funny -- I never knew the position as "Vicar of Christ" was so closely related to the role of "Godfather" or JFK.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:20:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: SOSO (#56)

Scrolling in sequence...thanks.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: A K A Stone, SOSO (#23)

Not even close my friend.

Agree. There is NO way (even IF there are stats that support that "92%" number.)

Actions speak louder than words.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Liberator (#55)

Can you tell me how in the world a nation whose majority identify as "Protestant" have ZERO Protestants out of NINE on SCOTUS??

I have no reasonable explanation for that other than perhaps by chance.

"Right -- SCOTUS is NOT an elected body but the only one of three bodies of government that aren't, but raqther assigned by the behind-the-scene POWER BROKERS and Puppetmeisters."

Are you saying that the U.S. is controlled by a cabal of Catholics and Jews?

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-17   17:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: redleghunter, hondo68 (#24)

Sometimes I do disagree with your statements. You spend 95% of your posts telling us that all the GOP candidates are bunk; 4% of the time telling us the GOP is just like the Dims; and about a mere 1% of the time mentioning Obolo and the Clintoons and the other overt Marxists.

Frankly it's the same strategy used over at DU and other leftist sites. Just saying...

Ditto. On every observation you've made.

I don't see Hondo launching any vigorous offensive against the Left. OR 0blabla. Instead he saves his salvos for Cruz. (Chyeah -- THAT'll save the Republic.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:24:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Liberator, A K A Stone (#59)

There is NO way (even IF there are stats that support that "92%" number.)

Thank you, God.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-17   17:26:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: redleghunter, hondo68, liberator (#24)

I do disagree with your statements. You spend 95% of your posts telling us that all the GOP candidates are bunk; 4% of the time telling us the GOP is just like the Dims; and about a mere 1% of the time mentioning Obolo and the Clintoons and the other overt Marxists.

I also agree with this assessment... It's 100% spot on.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-17   17:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: SOSO, redleghunter, A K A Stone, CZ82, Stoner, Bob Celeste (#60)

I have no reasonable explanation for that other than perhaps by chance.

Come on, SOSO -- "chance"?? Coincidence??

NO such thing exists at that level of influence and power.

Are you saying that the U.S. is controlled by a cabal of Catholics and Jews?

Yes, ostensibly -- although, these ghouls are "Catholic and Jews" IN NAME ONLY; The reality: They are Secular Humanists wearing masks.

Moreover, these political allies (who join Atheists, New Agers, and Greens) have been allies of convenience with a shared agenda. Their goal (since post WWII) has ALWAYS been to remove fundamental Christianity (disciples of Sola Scriptura) and its tenets from positions of power in order to usher in their globalist One World Gvt.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:35:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: SOSO, A K A Stone (#62)

Let me clarify; "There is NO way (even IF there are stats that support that "92%" number ARE "CHRISTIAN.")

Now MY definition of "Christian" is probably NOT going to coincide with yours, SOSO.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: redleghunter, Justified, tomder55 (#25)

Did not waste my money on that movie. Another Hollyweird hack job.

Bible revisionism. And yet how many naive and well-intended fall for it? This stuff isn't Cecil B. DeMille; It's fouled contrived garbage belched out of the perverted boweled of militant homosexual, atheist Hollywood.

Yes indeed the Pope should know man did not create this world. We are subject to the laws established by our Creator. To think we have 'climate change' all figured out with about 100 years of data is insane.

Amen!

THIS Pope is as much an authority on science -- as well as the word of God -- as 0blabla is an authority on the Constitution. Coincidence??

The day BOTH these frauds are dismissed is a blessed day.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: SOSO, A K A Stone (#29)

Be mindful of THIS disclaimer noted by the polling company and "religion" statistics:

Although identifying as religiously unaffiliated does not necessarily mean one is atheist, politicians may be wary about such an association. About half of Americans (53%) say they would be less likely to support an atheist for president.

So in other words, politicians most likely lie about their "religious affiliation " and pencil in "Christian" when they are NOT. No big surprise there.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:49:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: redleghunter, SOSO, A K A Stone (#30)

They sure don't legislate according to their Christian ideals/worldview.

No they don't.

So are they lying to themselves? Their constituents? God? Or...ALL of us??

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:51:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: SOSO, CZ82 (#31) (Edited)

As I stated, the justices of the Supreme Court are not elected but appointed by elected representatives of We The People (POTUS propose, Congress disposes).

No, SC Justices are appointed by PRESIDENTS and their respective cabals and staffs based on nothing BUT shameless potential corruptible principles. Congress is then bribed, coerced, or otherwise shamed into approving said appointments.

You're welcome.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:54:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: A K A Stone, SOSO, redleghunter (#32)

Every democrat that is in favor of abortion is not a christian.

Amen.

On the position of abortion, its support provides a telling litmus test of "Christian/NON-Christian."

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   17:58:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: SOSO, redleghunter (#33)

You fail to realize that "THEY" are what pass for mainstream Christians these days and have a different view of the tenets of Christianity than you or I. I include the Pope in the current mainstream category.

"Mainstream" Christianity is a compromised river of polluted Christianity diverted to Hell.

Christian traditionalism is all but dead save in small enclaves.

Agree.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   18:01:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator, SOSO, redleghunter (#43)

I'm pretty sure we had the discussion before the 2014 elections so I know the numbers have changed somewhat, just not sure by how many.

Just because someone claims to be Catholic, Baptist etc, etc, doesn't mean they actually are, most of them probably pick/say what they think their constituency will vote for.

I remember that when you enlisted in the military and they asked you what religion you were and you didn't know or didn't care to share, you automatically became a PROTESTANT and that is what went on your Dog Tags!!!

So I guess my question is would a truly religious person do the things our politicians do with legislation that only benefit themselves and their ambition for power??? (They're knowingly screwing their constituency/fellow man all so they can feel good about themselves). I was under the impression that the word of God meant you are supposed to act in a way that benefits everyone??

If this isn't true then there are a lot of people ignoring their faith by voting for these jokers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-17   18:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: SOSO, A K A Stone (#36)

The fact is that over 90% of Congress identify themself as Christian.

Bruce Jenner "identifies" as a "woman"; There's white NAACP leader who now "identifies" as "black." Suddenly down is up and wrong is right?

Congress (as a group) is demonstratively un-"Christian."

You unilateally changed the discussion by introducing yor biases and beliefs.

"Biases and beliefs" based upon scriptural truths are what traditionally have guided us to discerned right from wrong in THIS country. Am I wrong?

Now that the truth is blurred by personal "identification," and truth as well as "right and wrong" is now relative. No wonder this nation swirls us down the john like yesterday's morning deuce.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   18:10:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: CZ82 (#72)

I'm pretty sure we had the discussion before the 2014 elections so I know the numbers have changed somewhat, just not sure by how many.

Just because someone claims to be Catholic, Baptist etc, etc, doesn't mean they actually are, most of them probably pick/say what they think their constituency will vote for.

Yup, I think you're right on the content of that discussion.

On the subject of "religious affiliation," it means NOTHING these days. Any "Christians" who voted for 0blabla, Klinton, or Pelosi are only kidding/lying to themselves.

I remember that when you enlisted in the military and they asked you what religion you were and you didn't know or didn't care to share, you automatically became a PROTESTANT and that is what went on your Dog Tags!!!

Hmmm....You've seen those crosses at the cemetery at Normandy? Naturally, you think, "Wow -- sooo many Christians!" Well...God only knows.

I guess my question is would a truly religious person do the things our politicians do with legislation that only benefit themselves and their ambition for power???

Great, simple question and litmus test for integrity. Answer: NO.

(They're knowingly screwing their constituency/fellow man all so they can feel good about themselves). I was under the impression that the word of God meant you are supposed to act in a way that benefits everyone??

Yep. demonstrate a "love of fellow man." NOT betrayal. But again -- since these days people shamelessly redefine reality, "good" can be redefined." This as they who lord over us sell us out in broad daylight. Arrogantly. Spitefully. WITH malice and dishonorably. (Now whether by 11:59 they've repented, again, God only knows.)

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   18:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Liberator, *The Two Parties ARE the Same* (#48)

Comparing McStain to Cruz is insane.

Like Obama, they're both foreign born and ineligible to be president of the US.

At least McCain had two US citizen parents, whereas Rafael only had an American mother. Raffie Sr. didn't bother to become a US citizen until around 2005. He was in no hurry to renounce his allegiance to Fidel and the Communist party. Teddy Cruz is doubly ineligible like Obama, foreign parent and foreign born.

Don't worry the Democrats don't give a damn about the Constitution either, so that old thing won't stop anyone from becoming president of this NWO banana republic.


The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

Hondo68  posted on  2015-06-17   18:34:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: hondo68 (#75)

Like Obama, they're both foreign born and ineligible to be president of the US.

According to Hondopey, not the constitution. A Servicemember who is stationed overseas and has a kid. That kid isn't eligible to be President.

But a wetback who comes here and squats a kid out. That kid is eligible in your twisted mind.

According to the constitution. McCain is certainly eligible. His parents were both Americans you moron.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-17   18:53:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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