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Title: Pope Francis warns of destruction of Earth's ecosystem in leaked encyclical
Source: The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/20 ... on-ecosystem-leaked-encyclical
Published: Jun 16, 2015
Author: Stephanie Kirchgaessner & John Hooper
Post Date: 2015-06-16 14:37:17 by redleghunter
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Pope Francis will this week call for changes in lifestyles and energy consumption to avert the “unprecedented destruction of the ecosystem” before the end of this century, according to a leaked draft of a papal encyclical. In a document released by an Italian magazine on Monday, the pontiff will warn that failure to act would have “grave consequences for all of us”.

Francis also called for a new global political authority tasked with “tackling … the reduction of pollution and the development of poor countries and regions”. His appeal echoed that of his predecessor, pope Benedict XVI, who in a 2009 encyclical proposed a kind of super-UN to deal with the world’s economic problems and injustices.

According to the lengthy draft, which was obtained and published by L’Espresso magazine, the Argentinean pope will align himself with the environmental movement and its objectives. While accepting that there may be some natural causes of global warming, the pope will also state that climate change is mostly a man-made problem.

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#1. To: All (#0)

the pope will also state that climate change is mostly a man-made problem.

And some people wonder why most politicians are Catholic! LOL...

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-16   20:48:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: CZ82 (#1)

And some people wonder why most politicians are Catholic! LOL...

What? Please document you claim.

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-16   21:53:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: SOSO, CZ82 (#3) (Edited)

("And some people wonder why most politicians are Catholic! LOL...")

What? Please document you claim.

What CZ may mean by his statement is that the majority within the Dem Party and its leadership is rife with Catholics. And apparently so too are many Pubbies north of the Mason-Dixon line.

Moreover, not ONE single Protestant on the US Supreme Court. DOCUMENTED.

At least half of all Catholics are Dems, pro-abortion, and liberal. Yeah -- none of us like that kind of hypocrisy either, but then again, look at their so-called "leader," the Pope.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   0:14:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Liberator, SOSO (#4)

You said that quite eloquently, thank you.

We've had this discussion before (especially about the judges) but don't remember if it was here or LP, SOSO must have missed it.

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-17   7:07:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: CZ82, SOSO (#7)

You're welcome, sir.

We've had this discussion before (especially about the judges) but don't remember if it was here or LP, SOSO must have missed it.

I believe you're right about having discussed this subject matter. Perhaps SOSO wasn't privy to the discussion.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-17   16:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Liberator, SOSO, redleghunter (#43)

I'm pretty sure we had the discussion before the 2014 elections so I know the numbers have changed somewhat, just not sure by how many.

Just because someone claims to be Catholic, Baptist etc, etc, doesn't mean they actually are, most of them probably pick/say what they think their constituency will vote for.

I remember that when you enlisted in the military and they asked you what religion you were and you didn't know or didn't care to share, you automatically became a PROTESTANT and that is what went on your Dog Tags!!!

So I guess my question is would a truly religious person do the things our politicians do with legislation that only benefit themselves and their ambition for power??? (They're knowingly screwing their constituency/fellow man all so they can feel good about themselves). I was under the impression that the word of God meant you are supposed to act in a way that benefits everyone??

If this isn't true then there are a lot of people ignoring their faith by voting for these jokers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-17   18:07:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: CZ82, Liberator, redleghunter (#72)

So I guess my question is would a truly religious person do the things our politicians do with legislation that only benefit themselves and their ambition for power???

This is really a silly question. Of course they would at times. We all would at times. That is becuase we are all less than perfect and are all sinners. Fortunately for us one stumble doesn't define the entirety of our relationship with God. He forgives those that truly repent in their heart, even if we make the same stumble over and over and over again and sincerely repent.

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-18   14:00:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: SOSO, redleghunter, Liberator (#95)

That is becuase we are all less than perfect and are all sinners. Fortunately for us one stumble doesn't define the entirety of our relationship with God. He forgives those that truly repent in their heart, even if we make the same stumble over and over and over again and sincerely repent.

Sounds like someone is trying to prop themselves up even though they know they aren't a good person. So they lie to themselves and everyone else to make themselves feel good about themselves.

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-18   17:55:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: CZ82 (#97)

That is becuase we are all less than perfect and are all sinners. Fortunately for us one stumble doesn't define the entirety of our relationship with God. He forgives those that truly repent in their heart, even if we make the same stumble over and over and over again and sincerely repent. Sounds like someone is trying to prop themselves up even though they know they aren't a good person. So they lie to themselves and everyone else to make themselves feel good about themselves.

It would be awfully unChristian like for that someone to call you a totally delusional prick.

SOSO  posted on  2015-06-18   20:00:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: SOSO (#99)

I wasn't referring to you so don't take it personally.

So what you are saying it's alright to be a sinner and as long as you keep apologizing for those sins (what's the idiom for that "lie like an old rug") that you won't be held responsible for those sins?? (Isn't that a good definition of the word delusional)??

I guess I'm not as forgiving as you cause I feel people should be held responsible for their actions.

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-19   1:03:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: CZ82 (#100)

Repentance means turning away.

So I see what you are saying.

But a repentant heart is also a gift of God's Grace. Without God transforming the heart and mind of the sinner, a person is incapable of satisfying Him. Only The Son of God was a Sacrifice pleasing to The Father.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-19   1:30:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: redleghunter, SOSO (#101)

50 years ago I might have been able to grasp that concept but nowadays not so much, and it seems to be getting exponentially worse by the day.

So I wonder if guys like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot repented right at the end and were forgiven??

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-19   1:50:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: CZ82, redleghunter, SOSO, Bob Celeste (#102)

I wonder if guys like Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot repented right at the end and were forgiven??

I'd had a Catholic friend pose the very same great question. That's why it's called "Grace"; AMAZING Grace, actually, right? :-) Yes, it blows minds. Answer: YES.

Important case and point: As Red alluded to, that criminal from his own cross asked Jesus to remember him, and was promised "Paradise" by the grace of Jesus Himself. Now whether the above infamous serial evil-doers did repent at 11:59:59 PM of their lives and gave it all the Jesus that moment (or beforehand)...God only knows. As to "serial sinners" who claim they "know" the Lord, He *is* going to know their heart, won't He? There's no conning The Almighty.

No more touching lyrics of hope to a song than this...because it says it all:

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-19   21:03:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Liberator (#107)

Yes, it blows minds. Answer: YES.

To me there are some sins that are unforgivable BTA that's just me.

CZ82  posted on  2015-06-19   21:44:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#114. To: CZ82 (#109)

To me there are some sins that are unforgivable BTA that's just me.

I respect and understand that; I was once there. If we as humans were doing the Judging by our own standards, that would be the case for sure. Some of us have a hard enough time even forgiving ourselves. Good thing God does the righteous judging :-)

God's game, God's rules and regs:

ZERO sins are allowed in His Kingdom. Small, medium, large. One or a million -- no difference, it's all unclean. A sinless Christ (as man) was sacrificed on that cross to pick of the tab for ALL who repent and ask Jesus into their heart...BEFORE DEATH. That gift of forgiveness and un-earned mercy is offered even for the least as well as absolute worst and most egregious sinner.

This is not easy to wrap one's head around...sometimes it takes time; I get it.

Maybe it's better articulated below, while using the scripture of the thief on the cross crucified along with Jesus: (Source: http://markdroberts.com/?p=804):

Luke 23:39-43

39 One of the criminals who were hanged there kept deriding him and saying, “Are you not the Messiah? Save yourself and us!” 40 But the other rebuked him, saying, “Do you not fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 And we indeed have been condemned justly, for we are getting what we deserve for our deeds, but this man has done nothing wrong.” 42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 He replied, “Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”

Luke 23:39-43 has often perplexed Christians who believe that salvation comes only by explicitly confessing Jesus as Savior and Lord. “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom” hardly fits the bill here. Whatever the desperate thief believed about Jesus, it’s unlikely that he prayed the sinner’s prayer while on his cross. And we have no reason to believe that Jesus straightened out the thief’s theology before offering the promise of Paradise. No, what we have in the text of Luke is a cry of minimal faith and maximal desperation. And what we have from the mouth of Jesus is a response of extraordinary mercy.

It would be unwise to build a whole theology of salvation on the basis of this single passage from Luke. And it would be unwise to build a theology of salvation without taking seriously this passage. Whatever else, it reminds us that God is “rich in mercy” (Ephesians 2:4). God saves us, not because we earn it, not because we deserve it, not because we say the right words and pray the right prayers, and not even because we get our theology right, but because God is full of mercy, mercy revealed and poured out through Jesus Christ, mercy that says to a thief: “Today you will be with me in Paradise.”

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-20 10:27:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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