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Title: Here comes Trump; will GOP embrace an outsider?
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URL Source: http://www.macon.com/2015/06/15/379 ... es-trump-will-gop-embrace.html
Published: Jun 16, 2015
Author: DAVID LIGHTMAN
Post Date: 2015-06-16 00:47:22 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 20191
Comments: 101

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump’s dream of the White House is built on the belief that America will turn to a can-do outsider, particularly a successful business tycoon, to fix the mess that is Washington.

It’s likely just a dream.

Voters enjoy candidates full of outrage and without ties to the byzantine, polarized, money-saturated ways of the nation’s capital. Audiences flock to hear and cheer them in New Hampshire, Iowa and elsewhere. And then they usually vote for a more statesmanlike, experienced choice.

Trump, 69, the brash New York City-based billionaire businessman and television show host, plans a “major announcement” Tuesday on his presidential intentions. He’s flirted with running before, but this time he appears to be taking the steps needed to formally enter the Republican race.

He’d start as a clear underdog and wouldn’t even be the favorite among outsider candidates. Former neurosurgeon Ben Carson’s supporters have spent the last year raising money and building an organization, and former business executive Carly Fiorina has drawn friendly audiences in key primary and caucus states.

Trump, like Carson and Fiorina, faces another challenge: No political experience.

The last president who had never run for public office was Dwight Eisenhower. While never before elected , he WAS supreme commander of the Allied forces in Europe during World War II.

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#1. To: A K A Stone (#0)

Trump is a joke candidate. He is running for president as if it is a reality TV show. A lot of the candidates in the GOP seem to be in it just to raise their awareness for future work.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-16   2:58:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Pericles (#1) (Edited)

Trump is a joke candidate.

You recall his last foray into presidential politics. He gassed up the Trump copter, flew up to NH, got out and greeted about 50 reporters waiting to jump him with questions, got back in his Trumpcopter and flew back to NYC and wasn't heard from again.

Trump has been a registered Republican for less time than Obama has been prez. While he claims he voted for McStain in 2008, he was still a lifelong registered Dem voter (and donor) until some time in 2009.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-16   6:37:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: TooConservative (#8) (Edited)

I saw a speech on Youtube where he said he would call the Chinese leaders motherfuckers to their face or some such. How is that for diplomacy?

It's a funny speech in how bad it is and just stupid.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?299259-1/donald-trump-speech-las-vegas

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-16   8:40:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Pericles (#10)

I saw a speech on Youtube where he said he would call the Chinese leaders motherfuckers to their face or some such

You are lying again. That isn't what he said. But he wouldn't bend over and take it up the ass from the Chinese as our current leaders do. Like your candidates do.

A K A Stone  posted on  2015-06-16   9:42:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: A K A Stone, TooConservative (#19) (Edited)

I saw a speech on Youtube where he said he would call the Chinese leaders motherfuckers to their face or some such

You are lying again. That isn't what he said. But he wouldn't bend over and take it up the ass from the Chinese as our current leaders do. Like your candidates do.

I don't recall the exact curse words Trump used but he used actual curse words in a speech. That sound presidential material to you? I honestly don't understand modern conservatives. The same conservatives that for months would freak out that Obama changed the Oval Office dress rules and wore relaxed clothing / no ties but suddenly (some) conservatives are Ok with a presidential candidate that uses dirty words in campaign speeches.

I linke d the Vegas speech from a few years ago. It's a funny speech - and I assume it was made for showbusiness purposes.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-16   10:39:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Pericles (#28)

"but he used actual curse words in a speech."

As a hypothetical.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-16   12:31:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: misterwhite, A K A Stone, TooConservative (#39)

That is the line! A GOP candidate using that kind of langauge should be a disqualifier for the same Oval Office Reagan was in.

I have to ask, will the Chinese respond back to "President Trump" who are you calling a mother fucker? I would not like to see what a billion insulted Chinamen do in response to an insult like that.

He recently called all the other candidates "assholes". He had already formed an exploratory committee, showing that his discussion of running this time had grown beyond talk. In the run-up to the announcement, Trump has spoken in his trademark blunt, direct tone about President Barack Obama, Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton and Republican candidates, particularly Mario Rubio and Jeb Bush, saying each had made an a------ out of themselves.

Read more: http://www.cbs46.com/story/29260228/donald-trump-announces-run-for- president#ixzz3dFAnL7h7

Very presidential, right Stone?

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-16   12:39:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Pericles (#40)

"That is the line! A GOP candidate using that kind of langauge should be a disqualifier for the same Oval Office Reagan was in."

That would be up to the voters, wouldn't it?

You must have been disappointed by the fact that he was cheered when he made that statement using "that kind of language".

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-16   12:56:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: misterwhite (#41)

"That is the line! A GOP candidate using that kind of langauge should be a disqualifier for the same Oval Office Reagan was in." That would be up to the voters, wouldn't it?

You must have been disappointed by the fact that he was cheered when he made that statement using "that kind of language".

Just using the statements made by the online conservative community that was angry Obama did not wear a tie in office. But it's OK if they use street language in a speech. That uplifts the office of the presidency!

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-16   13:01:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Pericles (#42)

"Obama did not wear a tie in office."

Unlike Reagan, a man who respected the Presidency and wore a coat and tie while in the Oval Office, Obama has no such respect.

The language of some private citizen who wasn't even a candidate is irrelevant.

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-17   11:17:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: misterwhite (#96)

Obama did not wear a tie in office." Unlike Reagan, a man who respected the Presidency and wore a coat and tie while in the Oval Office, Obama has no such respect.

The language of some private citizen who wasn't even a candidate is irrelevant.

So if the rank and file hold this view (a perfectly correct view to hold) why happy about a person like Trump sitting the the Oval Office?

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-17   12:37:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#98. To: Pericles (#97)

why happy about a person like Trump sitting the the Oval Office?

Nobody hates a self made rich person more than a socialist and occupy liberal.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-17 12:42:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Pericles (#97)

"why happy about a person like Trump sitting the the Oval Office?"

Because he'd be better than Hillary. Me happy about that.

(Assuming he wins the Republican primary.)

misterwhite  posted on  2015-06-17 12:50:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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