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Title: Police Seize 6 Children Simply Because Family Was Camping
Source: Off The Grid News
URL Source: http://www.offthegridnews.com/curre ... ly-because-family-was-camping/
Published: Jun 12, 2015
Author: Off The Grid News Staff
Post Date: 2015-06-15 11:14:44 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 6365
Comments: 45

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A Michigan family which had dreams of camping during the summer in the great outdoors was horrified when state officials seized their six children simply because they were temporarily living in tents, Off The Grid News has learned.

The nightmare experience for Christopher and Antonia Hernandez began May 19 when Otsego County sheriff deputies and a CPS official took their children, and ended June 10 when their children were returned after the parents won a court ruling based on the fact the mother and children are eligible for enrollment in the Tlingit Native American tribe. The federal Indian Child Welfare Act makes it more difficult for state officials to separate Native American families. Michigan has a similar state law.

If the family had not had the Tlingit link, the case still would be ongoing, with the children still in foster care.

But the removal never should have taken place, Christopher and Antonia told Off The Grid News, which has read the court documents – one of which criticizes the family for not having electricity or a water source. The family was near a state park and had purchased a pass to shower and bathe there. The parents also had a generator.

They had been living in the tents for nine days when police arrived.

“The government has tried to standardize what a home is and what a home must have, without consideration for if the children’s needs are being met or not,” Christopher and Antonia said in a joint statement. “This was not a case of neglect, but a case of the government telling us how we have to raise our children — that we must have running water, we must have electricity and we can’t stay in a tent for the summer. To the government it makes no difference if the children are happy and healthy. We need to conform to their idea of normal or they can take your children away.

They added, “Taking children from families needs to be limited to clear cases of neglect and abuse. It should be every parent’s right to raise their children as they see fit, unless the government can prove that what the parent is doing is actually harming the child.”

The children, ages seven months, 2, 4, 6, 15 and 17, had been living in the three tents – two of which were large nine-person tents – when the controversy began.

“Our family decided to go camping for the summer to a 10-acre property we are buying,” Antonia said, noting they do own a house. “We had intended to stay the summer while we finalized plans on what we were going to do with our lives. We cannot say we would have stayed the whole summer due to the fact Christopher is donating a kidney to his mother and we may have been called home to do the surgery at any point. If this were to happen we planned to return home for the duration of the surgery and the recovery period however long that was.”

The parents simply “wanted our children to experience the outdoors” – and perhaps see if they wanted to live off-grid permanently.

The Hernandez family

The Hernandez family

“We purchased several chickens, a couple of turkey and a couple of ducks so we could try and provide a portion of our food needs,” Antonia said. “… We set up one tent as storage for our tools, as I do a lot of woodworking. Another tent was set up as a closet to house our clothes and diapers, etc. As you can imagine, with six children we have a lot of clothes and other miscellaneous items. Our third tent was set up as a kitchen.”

The family also had:

  • A natural gas stove the parents converted to propane for cooking food and heating water.
  • Six five-gallon containers of water they refilled at the local Walmart. They also were collecting rainwater.
  • Several solar lights.
  • A generator.

On May 19, the parents left the property to do laundry at a laundromat, as well as to buy food and some fencing for the animals. The younger children were left in the care of their 15-year-old son, who is nearly 16.

“When we arrived back, the Otsego County Sheriff’s Department was at the property claiming to have received a report of squatters on the land,” Antonia said. “We provided documentation of our right to be on the land, which was verified the next day by the land owner.”

A CPS representative also was on the property, and had concerns about the living conditions. CPS made four allegations, according to the official court document:

  • The family was not in a “stable living environment.”
  • The family had no electricity or water source, and was using kerosene as a means of heat.
  • The children were playing in the woods, cared for by a 15 year old.
  • The youngest child had a diaper rash.
  • The 17-year-old girl, who has Cerebral Palsy, was cold.

Antonia told Off The Grid News she knew of the diaper rash and it had been healing. The 17-year-old girl had a temperature of 96, but Antonia said this was after sheriff deputies and CPS “had the tent flap completely open for at least an hour and a half.” When she was admitted to the hospital it was 97.7.

“I witnessed her without covers for at least part of that time,” Antonia said. “I was told by her case worker that the doctor who examined her said she was very well taken care of.”

As for the children playing outside in the cold, “none of the children were displaying any signs of being cold — shivering or teeth chattering. As a matter of fact, they kept taking off their coats, which to me indicates that they were not cold.”

None of the allegations, he said, warranted removal of the children.

“We were given no other option to either return to the house we own or to obtain a hotel room until we could go to court,” she said. “By law, they are required to a reasonable effort to prevent or eliminate the need for removal as required by law.”

The case is now closed, and with their children back in their care, the parents have decided not to return to the property.

“It is a sad that they were out of our care for 21 days because we were camping,” she said.

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#5. To: Deckard, Pericles, Gatlin (#0)

A decade and a half ago I did a bit of camping.
Nothing terrible about it.
Just me and my girlfriend - we had no children with us.
So I guess we didn't qualify as potential 'parental terrorists'...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-06-15   13:32:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Deckard, Pericles, Gatlin (#5)

... Nothing terrible about it...

Actually it was quite astounding...

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-06-15   15:51:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Chuck_Wagon, Deckard, Pericles (#15)

Beautiful scene....how would you compare this scene to those pictured in link in Post #14?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-15   16:06:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Gatlin (#16) (Edited)

Beautiful scene....how would you compare this scene to those
pictured in link in Post #14?

For almost a decade I lived in the rural southeast.
And quite frankly, in a lot of areas -
if you took a zoom lens to that 'beautiful scene',
you would see many of the photos pictured in Post #14.

"Look up and see the beauty of nature!
Ignore the squalor around you!"

Chuck_Wagon  posted on  2015-06-16   15:30:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Deckard, Perciles, misterwhite, GrandIsland, Chuck_Wagon, Stoner, Fred Mertz, BobCeleste, jeremiad, VxH, (#30)

Living off the grid can be illegal in Michigan.

Experimenting with sustainability

Take Rolf and Mari von Walthausen for example. They were a typical Traverse City couple. They worked 40-hour-a-week jobs and lived in an average-sized home. But one day they did an experiment.

“We moved all of our belongings into one room of the house and said, let’s see how it is to live in a space that is 12 by 16 [feet],” Rolf von Walthausen said.

Then they tried another experiment.

“There was a time that one summer at our house, we actually set up the tent in the yard and we lived in this tent for four months,” Rolf von Walthausen said.

Living off the grid

Then came the big test. The von Walthausens sold their house, quit their day jobs and built a tiny cabin in the woods with no running water or electricity. They got new part-time jobs teaching yoga and tuning pianos, they were living in the woods, getting their water from a stream nearby, gathering wood to heat their wood- burning stove, and using their compostable toilet outside.

Rolf von Walthausen said living off the grid is hard work, but he and his wife love it.

“This way you get to be out in nature 365 days a year and really get into those natural rhythms that we in modern society have lost,” Rolf von Walthausen said.

And they started getting closer to their neighbors. They trade things like tools for eggs and syrup. Mari von Walthausen said they began spending time with people around them more than they ever could before.

“Most people in most neighborhoods have no idea who even lives next door because you get home after dark and you just collapse,” Mari von Walthausen said.

Living off the grid was illegal

Life was good. Until the local zoning and health officials found out. Turns out there are two major problems with the von Walthausen’s lifestyle.

Clay McNitt is with the Benzie-Leelanau District Health Department.

“A habitable dwelling should have running water to it and should have a means of sanitary disposal of the sewage. That's what our code requires,” McNitt said.

The second problem is that their 200-square-foot house is actually too small to be considered livable in their township.

Tim Johnson is the chairperson for the Centerville Township planning commission. He said the von Walthausen’s house is four times smaller than the township minimum.

“The ordinance was first written in 1976. It was first enacted, primarily, although no one will admit this, to keep single-wide mobile homes out of the township,” Johnson said.

Johnson and the von Walthausens fought the township board to get rid of the square-foot minimum. But the board voted against it.

How to legally live off the grid, at least half the year

The von Walthausens are not giving up. They can’t legally live in their cabin, but they can stay in a tent on each of their three parcels of land for two months at a time. So that’s what they are doing. They’re living in a tent for six months, then house-sitting for friends and neighbors the rest of the year.

“It’s crazy to try to navigate basically these power struggles in government,” Mari von Walthausen said.

Government officials say this wouldn’t be as much of a struggle if the von Walthausens would have talked with the proper local authorities before they started this journey.

The von Walthausens said they knew living completely off the grid probably wasn’t legal in the first place. But despite the bureaucratic and political hurdles, they are committed to living off their land as much as they can. Under the stars, and under the law. [source]

This attempt at living off the grid in the article above happened in the Benzie-Leelanau District Health Department District. The Health Department of Northwest Michigan, Osego County, where Christopher and Antonia Hernandez were attempting to live off the grid with their 6 children will no doubt have the same conditions and restrictions for living off the grid apply there as well.

So, let’s stop with this bullshit yellow journalism story.

The Hernandez family were not camping. They were buying the land to build a home and living off the grid during the process while they were starting to build their home. They got caught and some bleeding heart liberal writer for Off The Grid News tried to turn their failure into a hate government vendetta by crying that the “kids were denied a camping adventure by the big bad government.” The Hernandez family failed in the attempt to skirt the county codes, but Off The Grid News succeeded in getting some bleeding heart liberals here on LF to whine and sob after they were duped.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-16   16:07:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#32. To: Gatlin (#31)

Gatlin, I feel people should be able to do whatever they like, that's legal, on their own property or property they have a right to occupy. Long term camping or living off the grid should be every citizens right, IMHO.

The state should only Interfer with parental responsibility when the parents put a minors life in danger or likely to be injurious to children.

If they had shelter, food, warmth and water... they should be left alone.

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-16 16:37:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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