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Title: Cops Raid Little Girls’ “Illegal” Lemonade Stand, Shut it Down for Operating Without a Permit
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Free Thought Project/KLTV
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co ... e-stand-shut-operating-permit/
Published: Jun 10, 2015
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2015-06-10 20:43:55 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 39176
Comments: 204
Tyler, TX — Last week, police in Texas heroically saved the town from likes of two young girls who attempted to open a black market lemonade stand. The girls, one 7-year-old and one 8-year-old, dared to try to raise money to buy a Father’s day present for their dad by setting up a lemonade stand in their neighborhood. Andria and Zoey Green told ABC affiliate KLTV they were trying to raise about $100 for a Father’s Day present. They wanted to take him to Splash Kingdom. Over the weekend, the two young entrepreneurs took to the streets with their delicious batch of homemade lemonade and began to provide willing customers with their product. Only one hour into their business endeavour, these girls had raised 25% of their goal. However, their cash cow would be shut down not long after it started. Overton police chief Clyde Carter showed up along with the city code enforcer and shutdown their criminal operation. The girls had violated Texas House Bill 970, or the Texas Baker’s Bill, which does not allow the sale of food that needs time or temperature control to prevent it from spoiling. Since the lemonade would eventually grow mold after being left out for days, police said they needed an inspection from the health department and a permit to sell it and deemed their operation “illegal.” The cost of the permit is $150 dollars. “It is a lemonade stand, but they also have a permit that they are required to get,” Chief Carter said. “I think that’s ridiculous. I think they’re 7 and 8, and they’re just trying to make money for their own cause,” said Sandi Evans, the girls’ mother. The most absurd aspect of this ordeal is that the police know it’s a ridiculous law. However, they said ridiculous or not, it’s the law and they’ll keep enforcing it. “We have to follow by the state health guidelines,” said Carter. “They have to have a permit if they’re going to do the lemonade stands.” Police officers can certainly use discretion and choose not to “enforce” this law for use in such an asinine application. The fact that these girls had their good intentions ruined by those who claim to protect them speaks to the level of discontent with law enforcement in America today. The heartening side to this story is that these young girls are now learning to bypass this tyrannical system of bureaucratic nonsense. The girls said they will be setting up their lemonade stand again this weekend. Instead of selling it though, they will be giving it away, but they will gladly be accepting donations. Hopefully next week, we aren’t reading the story of these two Texas girls being raided by the IRS for tax evasion on their lemonade donations. But in today’s police state USA, it would be entirely expected. The most absurd aspect of this ordeal is that the police know it’s a ridiculous law. However, they said ridiculous or not, it’s the law and they’ll keep enforcing it. "Just following orders" Hmmm, where have I heard that before? Oh - now I remember. 
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#17. To: misterwhite (#12)
Atta Boy!
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." -- Thomas Jefferson Okay, now show the quote where Thomas Jefferson says how, when and who should decide if a law is unjust. Oh, you can't? Then can you prove that Thomas Jefferson even said that? Oh, you can't? I Know.
In your anarchist world, police are not to follow orders....right? Wait... In your anarchist world, there will be no police to follow orders....right? Got it...
The “law and order” crowd is destroying our freedom! Violations of natural law are clear on their face. It is wrong to rob a man. It is wrong to slander a man. It is wrong to beat a man without just cause. It is wrong to fail to perform a deal under the terms agreed to. Do you see? It matters not what language you speak. It matters not what time or place you live in. The rules of conduct between people don’t change. Justice is justice. Positive laws allow those with the power of government to OVERIDE natural law through force and coercion. The purpose of positive law is to apply a different standard to some protected person, group or activity. That is the ENTIRE PURPOSE of positive laws. Think about it like this. Positive law was used to “legalize” slavery. Positive laws declare that the King or the “government” can own all the land and that they have the authority to “give” some huge tract of land to some favored person or to some railroad company. That is what positive law is and does. More Good news for the positive law guys. Remember, it’s the law, and we all have to follow the law. Remember the “fugitive slave act”? You know the “law” that required people to allow the state to return another person to some guy in another state if the slave managed to escape? Yes that law. THAT is what positive law looks like when it is boiled down to its basest form. Arbitrary and immoral. Are you obligated to follow that kind of law? Well you are, inside the insane system of positive law. Is it moral to follow that law? Of course not. That is turning natural law on its head. Does following positive law support freedom? No, it supports coercion, the opposite of freedom. And the SAME analysis applies to virtually ALL positive law. There are countless examples I could give you of made up “positive” non-laws and non-crimes that are passed and enforced. Vices, like smoking pot or paying for sex are not crimes because there is NO VICTIM complaining. They are no more crimes than watching too much t.v. or overeating is a “crime”. You are correct, misterwhite well deserves your attaboy.
When law requires to kill Jews, insane or infidels people like you do it.
Without law and order, there would be no freedom to destroy. There would only be rampant disorder, total confusion and complete chaos.
The concept of sarcasm befuddles you, doesn't it? I gave him an "Atta Boy" for his utterly predictable response. It's easy to see on threads like this one who the enemies of freedom are. You clowns won't even see the injustice of a cop shutting down a lemonade stand because of some arbitrary "law". when and who should decide if a law is unjust. When law requires to kill Jews, insane or infidels people like you do it. Ah, another one of your stupid statements....figures. Now, do you have anthing constructive to contribute? No? I thought not.
When law requires to kill Jews, insane or infidels people like you do it. Ah, another one of your stupid statements....figures. How is that stupid? I think he's got you pegged. You would turn in your neighbor if you saw him doing something illegal. Like having the grass an inch too high on his lawn Oh the irony! I can see the unjust in some arbitary laws....and of course, they should be changed. But I don't see where and how a police officer gets to pick and choose which laws to enforce and which not to. Can you cite me a reference source that permits an officer to do that? Hmmmm.... I thought not.
Don't change the subject. You said the cop drew down on the girl. He didn't. You're wrong. Man up.
He has it pegged that I will kill Jews when a law requires it....and you say he has me pegged. You are even more stupid that he is.
So you refuse to pay taxes. Attaboy!
Not really. I was using sarcasm to point out your ineffective use of sarcasm. You missed that....how could you? Is there one single thing that you are good at?
If you lived in 1943 Germany would you disobey the law?! On what ground?
Judging by the myriad of pro-police state and "the law is the law" posts you have made here and elsewhere, if you were ordered to do such a thing, I doubt very seriously that you would say no. I know for sure you'd rat out your neighbor if it got you in good with the fuzz. You would have ratted out anyone helping slaves escape "back in the day" as well. If you live on Mars, where would you get water? Your analogy is just as stupid.
If you lived in 1775 America, you'd be on the side of the British.
Your judgment is radically flawed....you have proven that to be the case many times. In fact, when did you ever prove once that it was not?
If you had a brain, would you still be unhappy? Stop with the irrational analogies...
Come on Gatlin, don't be an ass - you're the biggest police state sycophant (next to whitey possibly) on the site. Be a man and stay true to your convictions - Own it, don't deny it. I am one of the posters on LF who uses common sense and good judgment to consider all aspects of a situation before arriving at a conclusion....I will never deny that. Did you ever think about doing that? Well, you should...
Ah, the no victim….no crime libertarian philosophy, eh? Using that analogy, than can you say that sexually abusing small children are not crimes because they cannot, or do not, complain….and that is no more a crime that watching to much TV or overeating a crime? What is wrong with you…
If you lived in 1943 Germany would you disobey the law?! On what ground? Would you? потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
What's ironic is that the girls' mother probably supported that law when it was written. The permit was $150. They were trying to raise $100. Staying open a few more days would have raised enough money to pay for the permit -- with the added benefit of introducing the girls to the effects of oppressive government regulations. Or, if mom and dad are liberals, they could have sneaked over to the licensing bureau and purchased a permit for them. The little darlings. Anyways. Now we'll see if mom will follow the strength of her convictions and petition the city to change their vendor licensing laws. I doubt she will. All she really wanted was an exemption for her daughters. Typical. Support a law to regulate some behavior, then whine and cry when it applies to you.
The Chief of Police showed up at the stand. Something tells me no beat cop wanted to touch this one.
Can you cite me a reference source that permits an officer to do that? ---- Gatlin Every law,enforcement officer gives his oath to support and defend our constitution (and laws made in 'pursuance thereof'). Obviously, if a law is constitutionally questionable, the officer must use his discretion to choose whether he will enforce it. "I was just following orders", is NOT a valid excuse, and never has been.
I am still laughing at that... Edit: I had to watch it again...
What is wrong with you… What the $#@! is wrong with you pervert? How can anyone equate smoking pot to sexually abusing children? You are one sick motor scooter Gatlin. I'd expect that kind of "logic" from misterwhite. Fake quote. Perhaps you're thinking of this: "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws." Written from jail. How apropos.
Oh, I'm sure they learned a very important lesson. Yeah. One of the better ones. Costanza's great.
I simply used your analogy....it was yours, not mine. Don't make up an analogy and try to selectively apply it. Well, I guess you can try to do it. But you will not get by using it with me. I will nail your ass to the wall every time you try...
I would
Oh, I'm sure they learned a very important lesson. No doubt they learned that our economic and political system characterized by a free market for goods and services and private control of production and consumption is regulated by rules, regulations and laws. That is an important lesson...
Quite likely I would flee to Canada ;) Many did.
This story is a classic example of throwing common sense out the window, and throttle down on "Barneyism". For crying out loud, this was two little girls with a simple lemonade stand. That was quite common when I was a kid. The cops involved showed virtually NO COMMON SENSE. Yes, for those that want to pick fly specs out of the pepper, it may be a TECHNICAL violation, but the local PD gave it self two Big Black Eyes. Also, this was a waste of LE assets, that would have been better spent going after real bad guys, not a couple of 8 year old girls. Strictly from a PR stand point, this was DUMB, DUMB, and DUMBER. The next time the PD wants funds for a new cruiser, radios, etc, I can hear a council man asking " whats up chief, do you have an increase in kids lemonade stands. I would bet that citizens all over town are riding them like the citizens of Mayberry would heckle Barney when he did something dumb. If not, they should. This is a story of a lack of common sense, a quality very lacking in government these days. Si vis pacem, para bellum
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest “Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#18. To: cranko, misterwhite (#15)
The law
#19. To: Gatlin (#16)
Then the police would not have to enforce the stupid laws.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#20. To: Deckard (#19)
#21. To: Gatlin, cranko, misterwhite (#18)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#22. To: Deckard, misterwhite (#17)
Atta Boy!
Attaboy is an informal expression of encouragement or admiration, typically to a man or boy.
#23. To: Gatlin (#18)
when and who should decide if a law is unjust.
#24. To: Deckard (#21)
The “law and order” crowd is destroying our freedom!
#25. To: Gatlin (#22)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#26. To: A Pole (#23)
#27. To: Gatlin, A Pole (#26)
when and who should decide if a law is unjust.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#28. To: Gatlin (#26)
Now, do you have anthing constructive to contribute?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#29. To: Deckard (#25)
You clowns won't even see the injustice of a cop shutting down a lemonade stand because of some arbitrary "law".
#30. To: cranko (#14)
"The Chief of Police says that the cop's behavior is inexcusable."
#31. To: Deckard (#27)
When law requires to kill Jews, insane or infidels people like you do it.
#32. To: Deckard (#21)
"Is it moral to follow that law? Of course not. That is turning natural law on its head. Does following positive law support freedom? No, it supports coercion, the opposite of freedom."
#33. To: Deckard (#25)
The concept of sarcasm befuddles you, doesn't it?
#34. To: Gatlin (#31)
#35. To: Gatlin, A Pole (#31)
(Edited)
He has it pegged that I will kill Jews when a law requires it....
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#36. To: A Pole (#34)
If you lived in 1943 Germany would you disobey the law?! On what ground?
#37. To: Gatlin, A Pole (#36)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#38. To: Deckard (#35)
Judging by...
#39. To: Deckard (#37)
If you lived in 1775 America, you'd be on the side of the British.
#40. To: Gatlin (#38)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#41. To: Deckard (#40)
#42. To: Deckard (#21)
…like smoking pot or paying for sex are not crimes because there is NO VICTIM complaining. They are no more crimes than watching too much t.v. or overeating is a “crime”.
#43. To: A Pole (#34)
#44. To: Gatlin (#16)
"Then the police would not have to enforce the stupid laws."
#45. To: Gatlin (#29)
"I can see the unjust in some arbitary laws....and of course, they should be changed."
#46. To: Gatlin (#18)
"Then can you prove that Thomas Jefferson even said that?"
#47. To: Gatlin, Y'ALL (#29)
I don't see where and how a police officer gets to pick and choose which laws to enforce and which not to.
#48. To: misterwhite (#46)
(Edited)
#49. To: Gatlin (#42)
(Edited)
Using that analogy, than can you say that sexually abusing small children are not crimes because they cannot, or do not, complain….and that is no more a crime that watching to much TV or overeating a crime?
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#50. To: cranko (#15)
"If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." -- Thomas Jefferson"
-- Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from a Birmingham Jail," April 16, 1963. African Studies Center, University of Pennsylvania
#51. To: misterwhite (#44)
...the added benefit of introducing the girls to the effects of oppressive government regulations.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#52. To: Gatlin (#48)
#53. To: Deckard (#49)
How can anyone equate smoking pot to sexually abusing children?
#54. To: SOSO (#43)
#55. To: Deckard, misterwhite (#51)
...the added benefit of introducing the girls to the effects of oppressive government regulations.
#56. To: Deckard (#37)
#57. To: Deckard (#0)
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