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Title: Since "unrestricted' private ownership of guns clearly threatens the public safety, the 2nd Amendment can be interpreted to allow a variety of gun restrictions, according to the Bush administration.
Source: worldnetdaily
URL Source: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59674
Published: Jan 14, 2008
Author: unattributed
Post Date: 2008-01-14 06:58:34 by A K A Stone
Keywords: None
Views: 2026
Comments: 8

Since "unrestricted' private ownership of guns clearly threatens the public safety, the 2nd Amendment can be interpreted to allow a variety of gun restrictions, according to the Bush administration.

The argument was delivered by U.S. Solicitor General Paul D. Clement in a brief filed with the U.S. Supreme Court in the ongoing arguments over the legality of a District of Columbia ban on handguns in homes, according to a report from the Los Angeles Times.

Clement suggested that gun rights are limited and subject to "reasonable regulation" and said all federal limits on guns should be upheld.

"Given the unquestionable threat to public safety that unrestricted private firearm possession would entail, various categories of firearm-related regulation are permitted by the 2nd Amendment," he wrote in the brief, the Times reported.

He noted especially the federal ban on machine guns and those many other "particularly dangerous types of firearms," and endorsed restrictions on gun ownership by felons, those subject to restraining orders, drug users and "mental defectives."

His arguments came in the closely watched Washington, D.C., ban that would prevent residents from keeping handguns in their homes for self-defense.

Paul Helmke, of the pro-gun control Brady Campaign to Prevent Handgun Violence, told the Times he salutes the administration for its position.

But Alan Gura, who is heading up the challenge to the handgun ban, told the newspaper he was troubled Clement suggested more hearings on the case.

"We are very disappointed the administration is hostile to individual rights," he told the paper. "This is definitely hostile to our position."

Because of the specifics of the D.C. case, the ultimate ruling is expected to address directly whether the 2nd Amendment includes a right for individuals to have a gun, or whether local governments can approve whatever laws or ordinances they desire to restrict firearms.

The amendment reads, "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

Clement is the Bush administration's chief lawyer before the court, and submitted the arguments in the case that is to determine whether the D.C. limit is constitutional. He said the 2nd Amendment, "protects an individual right to possess firearms, including for private purposes unrelated to militia operations," and noted the D.C. ban probably goes too far.

But the newspaper said most of Clement's new brief urges the Supreme Court to decided most current restrictions on guns and gun owners cannot be overturned by citing the 2nd Amendment.

He said the failing in the D.C. law is that it totally bans handguns in the homes of private citizens. But he urged the court to recognize, "Nothing in the 2nd Amendment properly understood … calls for invalidation of the numerous federal laws regulating firearms."

The Justice Department long had endorsed gun controls until Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2001 switched the department's position to support individual gun rights, the Times said.

The court's hearing on the case has not yet been held.

Clement clerked for Associate Justice Antonin Scalia and worked as chief counsel to the U.S. Senate Subcommittee on the Constitution, Federalism and Property Rights. He joined the Department of Justice in 2001 and moved into his current position in 2005.


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Clement suggested that gun rights are limited and subject to "reasonable regulation" and said all federal limits on guns should be upheld. "Given the unquestionable threat to public safety that unrestricted private firearm possession would entail, various categories of firearm-related regulation are permitted by the 2nd Amendment," he wrote in the brief, the Times reported. _________________________________________________________________________________ Actually I think the second amendment means we are supposed to fight the government when they try this crap. Or maybe we are just supposed to bend over. I can't remember which.

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#1. To: Mudbot Stocky (#0)

So is this enough to shatter your delusion about the puke party. This Clement guy worked for Scalia. And apparently learned nothing. Or is this Scalias position too?

A K A Stone  posted on  2008-01-14   7:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#0)

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=213054&Disp=10#C10

Here in America President Bush wants to keep firearms out of the hands of honest hard working law abiding US Citizens...who live as staked out prey among violent criminals without the benefit of well armed protectors at their beck and call...

Meanwhile back in good ole Saudi Arabia...

President Bush is giving the homeland of the 09-11 terrorists $80 billion in advanced weaponry..

Does the word 'irony' apply...or is stronger language be called for? IMO

JoeSnuffy posted on 2008-01-14 12:29:58 ET Reply Trace

A K A Stone  posted on  2008-01-14   16:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: A K A Stone (#1)

Scalia ROCKS...MUD

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-01-14   22:38:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: A K A Stone (#1)

"...is this enough to shatter your delusion about the puke party."

And WHAT delusion would THAT be, StoneyBoy?

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-01-14   23:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: A K A Stone (#0)

"unrestricted' private ownership of guns clearly threatens the public safety,

No thanks, Presidente Bush, I'll take my chances and go with liberty. As the Boers use to say (translated from Afrikans): "God and Mauser". (That was 7mm Mauser back then)

Presidente Booosh is trying to make AmeriKa safe for illegal aliens and politicians.

"Laws are like spiderwebs; they hold the weak and delicate who are caught in their meshes, but are torn apart by the rich and powerful."-Anacharsis.

barkentine  posted on  2008-01-15   7:00:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Mudboy Slim (#4)

And WHAT delusion would THAT be, StoneyBoy?

That the GOP cares about individual liberty. More specifically that they support the right to bear arms. Bush has stabbed the constitutional Republicans in the back yet again.

A K A Stone  posted on  2008-01-15   8:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: A K A Stone (#6)

The GOPers I like care about individual liberty...

"Stranglehold!!"
(To be sung to Ted Nugent's "Stranglehold")

Here we come again, Bill Clinton...
Gonna RE-Impeach!!
Medyuh FReaks got No SAY, Slick Willie!!
Clinton's Gonna Git FReeped!!
Slick, Right's been stalkin' you so long...
You know Truth's here to stay!!
Got you in a stranglehold, Willie...
RINOS, Git Outta OUR Way!!!

Slick, you married a bitch now, din'tcha?!
What were YOU thinkin', you hound?!
Soiled OUR House, You Villainous TRAITOR...
Dig Mudboy's Righteous Sound!!!
Folks, Yer Forefather's DIED fer you to be FRee...
Socialism's sooooo passe'!!
Got RATS in a stranglehold now, Country...
Let's DETHRONE Slick TODAY!!!

(The BigMan kickin' it on guitar like only GONZO hisself can!!)

FReepers, we gotta Git JUSTICE!!
Limbaugh, it's time YOU said so!!
The Sheeple think Right and Left are the same...
They're CONFUSED...Slick's TREASON Shall Be Shown!!

Come on...FReepersUP!!
Come on...FReepersUP!!
Come on...Fight RAT's SCUM!!
Come on...Slick's a BUM!!
Come on come on come on come on, Patriots!!
Come on come on come on come on up!!
Come on come on come on come on, Nation!!
Come on, ASHCROFT, COME ON!!!!!

Leftist views are fer PhatCows!!
DemLib'rals LUST Fer RAT-Power!!
If Ashcroft gits in our way, Dubyuh...
You know Right'll force him OUT!!

Good Patriots they died to protect me...
Yes, FReedom's Here To Stay!!
Got Slick in a Stranglehold, Lib'rals...
Right's Gonna Whup Yer A$$!!!

(Gonzo Jammin' 'til we're done!!)

Heh heh heh...MUD (02/10/2003)

"Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the US Constitution."

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-01-15   9:51:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: A K A Stone (#6)

Bush has stabbed the constitutional Republicans in the back yet again.

I predicted that back in 2000, on FR.

Boosh's job is/was to fool "conservative Christians" and usher in the NWO.

The Second Amend. is the last biggie to implementing total state control.

It's up to Boosh to help dismantle 2SA.

"Laws are like spiderwebs; they hold the weak and delicate who are caught in their meshes, but are torn apart by the rich and powerful."-Anacharsis.

barkentine  posted on  2008-01-15   10:32:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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