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Title: A Scathing Indictment of the Wounded Warrior Project
Source: Bring The Heat, Bring The Stupid blog
URL Source: http://xbradtc.com/2015/06/09/a-sca ... f-the-wounded-warrior-project/
Published: Jun 9, 2015
Author: ultimaratioregis
Post Date: 2015-06-09 17:48:01 by Tooconservative
Keywords: None
Views: 3112
Comments: 19

Over on the porch.  Well worth the read.

I haven’t liked that organization for quite some time, mostly because of the way they portray wounded Veterans as being objects of pity.  Salamander puts it better than I have been able to.

an organization that uses the same visuals, tone and background music for those who fight our wars, that are are also used for starving African children … and at the same time squash local organizations using a huge legal budget.

Touché.

Here is some perspective, without minimizing the sacrifice.  The total US combat wounded in 13 years in Iraq and Afghanistan numbers around 52,000, with the vast majority being minor wounds with RTD (return to duty), such as mine were.  (Of the approximately 1,400 wounded suffered by 1st Marine Division in Anbar from February-September 2004, about 1,200 were RTD.  If those percentages hold for the larger number of 52,000, the total number with wounds serious enough to prevent a return to duty numbers around 7,500.)  We know that the number of traumatic amputations is fewer than 1,600.  This means, with just the last three years of donations, WWP has received enough money for almost $100,000 for each of the 7,500 seriously wounded Vets, or $457,000 for each traumatic amputee.  This is on top of the medical care and equipment provided by the VA for these Veterans.

With a CEO salary of almost half a million a year, the selling of donor lists, and this sort of reprehensible behavior:

According to a number of smaller groups, the Wounded Warrior Project…  has been spending a good deal of time and money suing other veteran-serving nonprofits on the basis that their names or logos constitute infringement on their brand.

I agree with Salamander, not a dime to WWP from me.  I will give to a smaller charity in a heartbeat.  One that does not make helping our wounded Veterans a “common business practice”, and one that does not intentionally harm others trying to give back to those who gave so much.

UPDATE:  XBradTC here. C0ncur all and endorse original message. There are many fine organizations to donate to, and it’s your money. But I would like to mention one that does have a sterling reputation, Fisher House.


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#1. To: All (#0)

The linked article on WWP's actual tactics of selling its donor lists to everyone and suing other veteran organizations, apparently the strategy of their very overpaid top staffers and CEO:

WWP - not just any charity

That logo, it seems to message one thing.

Those commercials, another.

I'll stop at that. If you have seen the commercials, you know why I will not have anything to do with the Wounded Warrior Project.

They could be the best charity on the earth, helping those who need the help the most - but I would never give them a red cent.

I think that stands for itself. Google yourself and watch the commercials if you must. If you still don't get my issue, then it can't be explained to you.

If you can't quite grasp my reason, there is another reason why you should think twice - via Tim Mak over at TheDailyBeast, here are a few things for you to ponder.
The renting of private information is a betrayal of donors, argues Sandra Miniutti, the vice president of Charity Navigator, a group that rates nonprofits. “When a donor gives to you there’s a level of trust, that you’re going to repay that with respect, that together you’re working to make the world a better place, and that [the charity is] not going to flip and sell my personal information,” she said.

A top official for a another large veterans nonprofit was aghast when informed about the practice. “We have never rented out, sold, or shared our donor list,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. “Our donors would kill us if we did that…I can’t believe their big, midsize, and small donors would be too happy with that.”

Nardizzi’s group not only engages in the selling of donor information, but he’s apparently proud of it, brazenly arguing in its favor.
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The Wounded Warrior Project CEO’s own salary rose by nearly $100,000 in the course of one year, to $473,015 in 2014. The group’s 10 most highly compensated employees made approximately $2.6 million in total that year.
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In fiscal year 2014, it brought in more than $342 million in revenue—making it one of the largest veterans charities in America. That’s up from $235 million in 2013 and $155 million in 2012.

By comparison, the WWP raised more than the National Labor Relations Board’s requested budget, and just slightly less than the budget for the entire Peace Corps.

And the WWP is unapologetic about supplementing those fundraising levels by selling off donor information.

“Sound and common business practice dictates that organizations or companies mailing marketing materials to the public share and exchange lists,” said Ayla Hay, a spokeswoman for the Wounded Warrior Project. The charity declined to list the organizations it sold/shared personal information to, except to describe them as “numerous large, national veterans service organizations.”
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The Wounded Warrior Project does not make obvious when individuals donate that personal information could be sold to third parties. There is no disclaimer on the form individuals use to donate online, nor on the form used to mail in a contribution.

In small print at the bottom of the page, the Wounded Warrior Project links to its privacy policy. On the second page, on the seventh point, the Wounded Warrior Project informs donors that the group may share “financial donor postal mailing lists with other non-profits and third parties.” In order to opt out of having personal information sold, donors must fill out a long form.
On the other hand, giving money to the $342 million Wounded Warrior Project takes just a few clicks.
They also do this;
According to a number of smaller groups, the Wounded Warrior Project, with annual revenues of $235 million, has been spending a good deal of time and money suing other veteran-serving nonprofits on the basis that their names or logos constitute infringement on their brand.

The Daily Beast reports that they talked with at least seven such charities. “They do try to bully smaller organizations like ourselves,” said a representative of one of the groups, who chose to remain anonymous. “They get really territorial about fundraising.” The rep said that they have been pressured to change their name, which includes the term “wounded warrior.”

“They’re so huge. We don’t have the staying power if they come after us—you just can’t fight them.” The term “wounded warrior” is, by the way, a generic phrase in the military community for an injured service member, used often within the various branches. But apparently WWP wants to own the name now and it appears willing to spend its donors’ and beneficiaries’ money to ensure that that is so.

Most recently, a small, Pennsylvania-based, all-volunteer project named the Keystone Wounded Warriors has become a target. Its annual budget is $200,000—which is, as the Beast points out, $175,000 less than the CEO of the WWP makes annually. But the small group had to spend two years and $72,000 in defense against the charge that their logo and name were similar enough to WWP’s to cause irreparable damage to its business, goodwill, reputation, and profits.

“That’s money that we could have used to pick up some homes in foreclosure, remodel them, and give them back to warriors. We spent that money on defending ourselves instead,” said Keystone Wounded Warriors executive director Paul Spurgin. “The lawsuit was just the coup de grâce,” he added. “They want us gone.”
In a word; unseemly.

Everyone must make their own decision - but an organization that uses the same visuals, tone and background music for those who fight our wars, that are are also used for starving African children ... and at the same time squash local organizations using a huge legal budget.

No thanks for me.

I get a vibe from WWP, and it isn't good for the larger veteran charity ecosystem. If they continue on the path they are on, WWP will do for veterans' charities what the Prosperity Gospel did for evangelicism. 

$02, YMMD.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-09   17:50:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: TooConservative (#0)

"Charity" has always been a popular big business. Every religion in the world is based around it,including Islam and Christianity.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-09   18:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#0)

Charles Barkley to donate $1 million to Auburn, Wounded Warrior Project, Morehouse College

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-09   18:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: TooConservative (#3)

USAA Announced as National Sponsor for Wounded Warrior Project Soldier Ride Program .

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-09   18:40:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#4) (Edited)

Controversy Surrounds Wounded Warriors, Lavish Salaries, and White House .

DEBUNKED: Article Purporting Wounded Warrior Project is a ‘Legal Scam’ is False .

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-09   18:41:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Gatlin (#5)

DEBUNKED: Article Purporting Wounded Warrior Project is a ‘Legal Scam’ is False .

No, it isn't.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-10   2:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#0)

This is on top of the medical care and equipment provided by the VA for these Veterans.

Which is excellent.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-10   7:24:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: TooConservative (#6)

TC, ignore gatlin, it is not here to add, it is here to detract and cause problems. Just bozo it and then you will only have to contend with it's other name, mr white.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-10   7:25:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#1)

“They’re so huge. We don’t have the staying power if they come after us...

Don't fight back, instead take the fight to them, start suing them, suing them in small claims court for 500 or under, they have to be represented by council, if they settle, simply sue them again and again and again.

Watch as we start a movement to do that against monsanto. Imagine 1000s of 500 suites against monsanto or any other business, not for ten million, but for 500 dollars.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-10   7:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: BobCeleste (#9)

Then Monsanto comes in with a pack of lawyers, beats you, and forces you to pay thousands in their legal fees.

Also, that opens you up to discovery process by Monsanto.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-10   8:21:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative (#10)

No, no, no, small claims court. Yes, they have to send a lawyer, but, I represent myself.

Also, that opens you up to discovery process by Monsanto. But, that discovery process, paid for by monsanto is a two way street.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-10   11:12:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: BobCeleste (#11)

But, that discovery process, paid for by monsanto is a two way street.

Monsanto has a very expert legal team. I don't think they missed covering such a liability issue.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-10   11:20:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#12)

Monsanto has a very expert legal team. I don't think they missed covering such a liability issue.

Also very, very expensive to fly them all over the country to fight small calim battles for 500 dollars.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-10   21:55:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: BobCeleste (#13)

Also very, very expensive to fly them all over the country to fight small calim battles for 500 dollars.

Built-in costs. They assume such litigation costs to be constant.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-10   22:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: TooConservative (#14)

Sorry, I will not be discouraged.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-11   21:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BobCeleste (#15)

Keep in mind, these are very high-dollar corporate lawyers. They might find a way to bootstrap a small-claims case into a SLAPP lawsuit and open the door to discovery and a judgment against in a court without legal liability limits.

It isn't a hypothetical. Look at the history of SLAPP lawsuits and how the courts have tolerated being used to harass people into silence because some megacorporation wants to shut them up and make an example of them.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-12   6:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#16)

Keep in mind, these are very high-dollar corporate lawyers. They might find a way to bootstrap a small-claims case into a SLAPP lawsuit and open the door to discovery and a judgment against in a court without legal liability limits.

It isn't a hypothetical. Look at the history of SLAPP lawsuits and how the courts have tolerated being used to harass people into silence because some megacorporation wants to shut them up and make an example of them.


I have a well, most have wells in this area, have you seen the new research regarding Round Up and other monsanto stuff leaching into wells? I am not filing a frivolous law suit, I am concerned about my well, the test I need done is several hundred dollars. I would not put the stuff supplied by cities, called water, on my garden, never mind in my body.

I want a court ordered order prohibiting the use of any monsanto product within 500 feet of not only my well, but the stream that runs past my well. You may consider that frivolous and maybe to a big city court it might stand a .5% chance of being ruled as such, but not out here in rural Maine.

It also opens the door for depositions and subpoena for monsanto executives. In addition, in Maine, in civil court for a fee of $300, you can elect to have a jury.

One final thought If I prevail, and I have no doubts that I will, it opens the door for thousands, maybe tens of thousands of others well owners in rural Maine to sue, based upon my win.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-12   9:26:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: BobCeleste (#17)

I'm all for what you want to do but still urge some caution.

Monsanto is insanely litigious. Deliberately.

They appear to be the most hated corporation in history, yet their lobbyists still manage to keep the public (Left, Right, moderate) off their necks in Congress and many places overseas.

Monsanto is no paper tiger. They have long teeth. They fight very dirty in court and they get away with it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-12   9:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#18)

Thank you.

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-06-12   10:13:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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