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Title: More 1 AM Jade Helm Pre-Training: “YOU MAY HEAR HELICOPTERS, GUNFIRE, & EXPLOSIONS. PLEASE DO NOT BE ALARMED.”
Source: Truthstream Media
URL Source: http://truthstreammedia.com/2015/06 ... ions-please-do-not-be-alarmed/
Published: Jun 7, 2015
Author: Aaron and Melissa Dykes
Post Date: 2015-06-09 09:55:55 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 31397
Comments: 122

americanflagdistress2

When the American flag is flown upside down, if you were not aware, it is a signal of dire distress.

Can you imagine what it is like to suddenly have low-flying military helicopters, explosions, and gunfire rocking your home in the middle of the night?

This message went out on Facebook around midnight last night from the official Lapeer County Police, EMS, and Fire Facebook page:

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“ATTENTION VIEWERS: PER FLINT POLICE OPERATIONS (FPO) THE US ARMY IS DOING TRAINING IN FLINT THIS WEEKEND AND YOU MAY HEAR HELCOPTERS, GUNFIRE, & EXPLOSIONS. PLEASE DO NOT BE ALARMED.”

That message was sent out last night around midnight.

Over the next few hours, some concerned and even downright scared citizens responded to what was taking place over and around their homes.

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Many were asking if this was part of Jade Helm. While several others in the thread responded said it was, the Lapeer County Police, EMS, and Fire Facebook page never officially confirmed or denied this.

Although some people were essentially congratulating the authorities for this last-minute martial law training in their neighborhood streets, others were more afraid of the attitudes of their fellow Americans.

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Around 8 p.m. Saturday night, M Live reported that police were coordinating safety measures for military exercises that were being announced for three areas in Flint:

Police warn that helicopters and small explosions are expected to be part of the exercise. The exercise is controlled and contained, and police said there is no reason to be alarmed.

The training exercises will conclude later Saturday night.

Police announced Friday the exercises would take place over the weekend, and residents in the areas where training was taking place would be notified.

Explosions rocked Flint’s East Side Tuesday, June 2, as the city warned residents to prepare for simulated ammunition fire and helicopters as U.S. Army soldiers begin 10 days of training.

On Saturday afternoon, members of the U.S. Army National Guard 1776 MP Company went to Mounds RV Park in Mt. Morris to train in armored security vehicles. Some 60 to 70 soldiers were on site, ready to train to receive their licenses to operate the vehicles.

Noting that the training would take place Saturday night kinda misleads one to believe it will be at a reasonable hour, doesn’t it?

Flint, Michigan only has 100,000 people. It’s not a huge city. Why should people expect a small-scale war to suddenly break out on their streets?

No explanation was ever given as to why this training could not have been conducted on a military base instead of on the residential streets of Flint, Michigan.

This isn’t just one evening. This is ten days of hardcore military training. Ten days of low-flying chinooks in the middle of the night. Ten days of random gunfire and explosions breaking out. Ten days of armored military vehicles cruising the roads. Ten days of increased military presence in the streets of yet another American city.

Imagine explaining this to your terrified children who are awakened in the middle of the night by what sounds like war breaking out in their Flint, Michigan backyard.

Of course, if Flint residents happened to not be watching their TVs or checking up on law enforcement’s social media pages like the Lapeer County Police, EMS, and Fire Facebook page, they wouldn’t have known, would they?

Unannounced or barely announced military drills complete with realistic-sounding explosions, military hardware and even the detainment of mock dissidents have become a much more frequent occurrence on Main Street U.S.A. in recent months. In the lead up to this July’s Jade Helm drill, during which local, state, and federal law enforcement and military agencies will be teaming up and training together all across the Southwest for what we are told are international battlefields far far away, it has been happening more and more. We have no Posse Comitatus, quite obviously.

Martial law desensitization is in full swing.

Disruptive and alarming drills continue to break out in sporadic locations across the country. As unannounced and unnerving as they are to local residents, a bigger and much uglier picture is being painted here.

Did you know that after the American Revolutionary War, most people in this country considered a standing army to be one of the most dangerous threats to liberty imaginable?

Skip ahead a couple hundred years. Now look at where we are.

This is America now. This is what our nation has become.

Look around. Are we really a free country?

We should not allow ourselves to be conditioned to accept and expect warfare in our backyards.

There is every reason not to want the military to get used to training in our streets with our militarized police forces, much less carrying out raids on the citizens, and patrolling us. 

There is every reason not to want our neighbors, friends, and family to become acclimated to it either. There is every reason to question and speak out against this.

Has anyone even sufficiently justified why this is really necessary?

“For your safety” just isn’t cutting it anymore.

Despite what the NDAA says, America is not a battlefield. The fact that officials see it as otherwise is deeply alarming and signals nothing less than tyranny.

(H/T: Chris VanWyck)

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#2. To: Deckard (#0) (Edited)

Utterly bizarre and disgraceful. What are they waiting for? Can't the FEMA Camps be opened tomorrow and Martial Law declared yesterday?? Sure -- there might be the satisfaction of seeing your liberal neighbor or Statist shills there with you, spacing out in shock and disbelief through the barbed wire fence. (I wonder if the Camp will awaken the prisoners...er...I mean citizens with the National Anthem or theme to Hogan's Heroes?)

Martial law desensitization is in full swing....

....There is every reason not to want our neighbors, friends, and family to become acclimated to it either. There is every reason to question and speak out against this.

Has anyone even sufficiently justified why this is really necessary?

“For your safety” just isn’t cutting it anymore.

This snip is the absolute truth on the matter. The meme, "For your safety" has worked like a charm since 9/11. The USCON has been shredded since. And so has the truth.

Though many of us respect those who serve, have you ever wondered why since 9/11, cameras have focused on police and military personnel during ballgames and events for a "moment" to "honor our brave servicemen and women for defending us" during 7th innings? Why "God Bless America" is always piped in? Why singers sporting full military dress warble (off-key) the National Anthem before games? There's an interesting revelation:

It has been divulged as of late that this is NOT because stadiums, pro leagues and team owners are patriotic; It's been because the US gubmint has PAID them as a matter of propaganda, advertisement, and conditioning. Conditioning to accept military uniforms EVERYWHERE. Ergo, nothing is what it seems; This is a matter is deception, theater, and a psyop.

Not a single official statement or claim from this gubmint since 9/11 can be believed. America (especially the Republican faithful) were peppered with partial truths as the MO of Dubya's globalist-run regime ran counter to common sense and constitutional law; This conveniently prepared and conditioned ALL sheeple to accept the 100% rate of lies uttered by 0blabla's regime.

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-09   14:45:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Liberator, TooConservative, GarySpFc, tomder55 (#2)

It has been divulged as of late that this is NOT because stadiums, pro leagues and team owners are patriotic; It's been because the US gubmint has PAID them as a matter of propaganda, advertisement, and conditioning. Conditioning to accept military uniforms EVERYWHERE. Ergo, nothing is what it seems; This is a matter is deception, theater, and a psyop.

I always thought it was 'free' recruitment advertising.

Before 9/11 military folks were those 'folks who lived on the base/fort over there.' Even though most of us lived in their towns, cities and shopped in their stores etc.

So military folk in their 'business suits' at a ball game is not uncommon. We saw it during WWII, in the 50s, during Vietnam etc.

Now for the article. It is also not uncommon in our American history to have military exercises on home soil off a military reservation or national training center.

The largest exercise in fact were the Louisiana Maneuvers:

The rain fell, too, on 350,000 U.S. soldiers and 50,000 U.S. Army vehicles as they fought the greatest sham battle in U.S. history. The attack had come before dawn. With two fast-moving, hard-hitting armored divisions leading the way, Lieutenant General Ben Lear, commander of the Second (Red) Army, had pushed his troops across the muddy Red River, was already sending long tentacles down the highways to the south, where Lieutenant General Walter Krueger’s Third (Blue) Army lay in wait. Overhead, armadas of pursuit planes fought great dogfights, while sleek A-20A attack bombers and Navy dive bombers strafed the columns of tanks and trucks moving up to the front.

That excerpt from the Oct. 6, 1941, issue of Life opened a multipage feature article on the largest mass training maneuvers undertaken by the U.S. Army to date. The mock battles of what became known as the Louisiana Maneuvers had one purpose: to prepare America’s soldiers for the war that had already begun in Europe and was threatening to spread around the world.

http://www.historynet.com/louisiana-maneuvers-1940-41.htm

Of course the area was a lot less populated than now. However, George S. Patton did not turn his Corps on Baton Rouge and round up everyone into concentration camps. He could have as he had the men and materiel to do so. But he did not. Why? Because Patton like every Soldier, Airmen, Marine and Sailor took an oath (as they do today) to support and defend the Constitution of the United States. Not the Pentagon, or some general or even the President. Military are only obligated to obey lawful orders.

So these exercises are not the military coming to get us all and declare martial law. These are drug induced delusions by the same people who want to legalize recreational use of every drug under the sun to include Meth. Paranoia is a side effect of most of these drugs.

And remember...military folk live in your communities, eat at the same restaurants, go to the same schools etc. We are not as cloistered as we used to be. And that is good for all of us.

Plus, if this exercise the article discusses was anything important I would probably know about it;)

Go ask the good people of FL what they think of the Atlantic Strike Exercise each year. I could not find the article but I remember some locals getting in a fit over all the 'fatigues' on the streets of the central FL town during the exercise. Meaning they complained the exercise was in their town off the reservation. After a bit of investigation (did not take much), she viewed military personnel in uniforms traveling from base to their off post hotels/motels. Hardly an invasion and probably appreciated by the local merchants.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-09   15:46:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: redleghunter (#4)

The largest exercise in fact were the Louisiana Maneuvers:

Not the same as running ops in American towns and cities.

There would be much less fuss if this was being done at Fort Hood or on federal lands in Nevada or Wyoming.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-09   16:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#6)

Not the same as running ops in American towns and cities.

Other than HuffPo and CT sites can you link me to the exercise directive for JH or other news source?

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-09   16:57:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: redleghunter, Deckard, sneakypete, tpaine, Gatlin (#7)

Other than HuffPo and CT sites can you link me to the exercise directive for JH or other news source?

I don't think I've seen any copies posted. Another disturbing element of the entire event. If their training is so harmless, why so much secrecy?

For that matter, they are emphasizing training on infiltration of civilian towns and trying to "pass" long enough to accomplish their objectives.

However, there is a fundamental problem with this.

The only place our soldiers can operate without uniforms apparently is here in the States. If our military attempts civilian infiltration of foreign nations, they will be non-uniformed combatants and could be summarily executed as spies/assassins.

So, unless you think it's spiffy to train our troops to operate outside the Geneva Convention, then exactly what is the merit of this ridiculous exercise? What is there about it that is so invaluable that they would conduct it to the detriment of the military's reputation?

No matter what it is, it is now worth doing. Jade Helm is a terrible plan and these pols should rightly be chastised for allowing the Pentagon to go nuts with such "training exercises" (for non-uniformed operations that cannot be carried out lawfully by U.S. military overseas).

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-09   18:00:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative, GarySpFc, sneakypete (#8)

For that matter, they are emphasizing training on infiltration of civilian towns and trying to "pass" long enough to accomplish their objectives.

I pinged two SF soldiers. Know quite a few myself.

Part of every SFQT training is an infiltration course out on the "economy." I'm sure they can tell you this has been going on since the 60s.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-10   0:55:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: redleghunter (#11)

Part of every SFQT training is an infiltration course out on the "economy." I'm sure they can tell you this has been going on since the 60s.

So you think it's legitimate for our military to practice at violating the Geneva Conventions and/or conducting military operations against American civilians here in the States?

All this lawlessness that has become a constant theme of the Obola era will not end well.

Obviously, we need to sharply cut military spending across the board.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-10   2:34:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: TooConservative, sneakypete, Deckard, GarySpFc, CZ82, liberator (#12)

So you think it's legitimate for our military to practice at violating the Geneva Conventions and/or conducting military operations against American civilians here in the States?

All this lawlessness that has become a constant theme of the Obola era will not end well.

Obviously, we need to sharply cut military spending across the board.

Frankly we need to sharply cut the government spending on the salaries of the political masters.

So you think it's legitimate for our military to practice at violating the Geneva Conventions and/or conducting military operations against American civilians here in the States?

Show it...The military farts and the ACLU is there to smell it. Military personnel get in a bar fight and it's 'news' even here in Texas. Show me. Not these delusional and paranoid 'sources' Deckard posts.

The infiltration course of SFQT avoids contact with the local populace. That's the purpose of the exercise. To go deep into an area of operations undetected. Not to interact with the local populace. 101st Airborne conducts Air Assault training from Florida to the Carolinas to Kentucky every year since the Cold War. They don't go into towns and cities but are out on the countryside establishing LZs.

The sources so far published here show a military exercise led by Special Forces rounding up civilians. That is not a mission of SF nor do they have the logistical capacity for such missions. Any interaction with the local populace is done via the various state's National Guard.

Any training states side in preparation for deployment overseas involving civilians is done via 'actor' civilian role players.

Until someone can come up with a credible source on this JH exercise itself, as in an exercise directive, all we have are the usual hysterical piecemeal specious sites 'reporting' this.

25 years of military experience conducting exercises here and overseas tell me what is being presented here of our active duty military interacting with an unwillful local populace is bunk.

Reports of helicopters flying low, explosions of artillery and tanks at a local impact area is not out of the norm states side. We forget a lot of these smaller military installations were active during the Cold War and saw little use since then.

Lastly, the very first of our citizens who would cry foul of military intervention for even an exercise, would be active duty military.

So someone needs to show me this exercise. Show me the Soldiers on the ground and the patches on their left shoulder.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-06-10   9:08:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: redleghunter, TooConservative, sneakypete (#18)

The infiltration course of SFQT avoids contact with the local populace. That's the purpose of the exercise.

Author: Jade Helm about winning civilian trust

...a few years ago, U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM) officials decided they needed a new method of warfare to combat untraditional foes like al-Qaida, so they vowed to “master the human domain.”

“What that does is it basically requires the military to adopt a strategy that leads to long-term relations in order to win military battles,” Chumley explained.

Such a strategy involves dropping Special Forces in targeted areas, where they try to blend in with the local civilian population. The key is for the soldiers to build trust among the civilians and subsequently influence their behaviors.

Lastly, the very first of our citizens who would cry foul of military intervention for even an exercise, would be active duty military.

Soldiers will follow the orders of those above.

U.S. Troops Asked If They Would Shoot American Citizens

Will You Fire On American Citizens?

The above question is quickly becoming the new litmus test for military officers to retain their rank. My military sources have been telling me that one of the primary reasons that we have seen a wholesale leadership change in the military, with over 260 senior command officers fired under Obama, is because many in our military will not indiscriminately fire upon innocent American citizens who refuse to submit to gun confiscation. This fact is verified by former Navy Seal Benjamin Smith as he has clearly stated that the Obama administration has a new “litmus test” for officers in the U.S. military,which asks officers if they’ll command their troops to confiscate firearms from Americans.

More confirmation of this litmus test comes from ex-CIA agent, Dr. Jim Garrow. His account, listed below, is chilling, because it matches what I have been told by military personnel dating back to the Benghazi cover-up.

 

Many veterans HAVE spoken out about this.

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-10   11:31:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Deckard (#25) (Edited)

Such a strategy involves dropping Special Forces in targeted areas, where they try to blend in with the local civilian population. The key is for the soldiers to build trust among the civilians and subsequently influence their behaviors.

That strategy was new in 1941. Ever hear of the OSS? Where do you think the people that started Special Forces came from?

Many veterans HAVE spoken out about this.

And many veterans don't know squat about warfare. Not even the ones that served in uniform during wartime. Just because someone wore a uniform,that doesn't mean they were ever in combat,or even close enough to it to hear distant explosions. Probably 90 percent of the US Army and the USMC never hear a shot fired their whole career that wasn't fired on a rifle range,and that figure jumps to damn near 100 percent when you are talking about the USAF,the USN,or the USCG.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-10   12:49:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete (#33) (Edited)

You might have a valid point if the Special Forces infiltration was going on in Muslim strongholds like Dearbornistan.

What intel do they hope to gather by infiltrating American towns? Who the gun owners and dissidents are? Where the local milita is meeting?

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-10   13:00:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Deckard, sneakypete, redleghunter, TooConservative, GarySpFc, tomder55, hondo68, CZ82 (#35)

You might have a valid point if the Special Forces infiltration was going on in Muslim strongholds like Dearbornistan.

What intel do they hope to gather by infiltrating American towns? Who the gun owners and dissidents are? Where the local milita is meeting?

GREAT questions.

The standards of military operations have morphed into an altogether different realm and objective over the decades. Especially during the current regime, which as we ALL know is hostile to everything this nation is, and has ever represented.

Most of us would point to 9/11 as THE watershed moment that dramatic changes in the reduction of liberty began occurring in the lives of Americans. But if we really want to examine exactly when Americans began sacrificing liberty for "security," it began back in 1991 when Poppy Bush and his globalist NWO cadre decided to invade Iraq, disrupt life as we'd known it, shattering the peace, freedom, and optimism marked by Ronald Reagan's administration.

But I digress. Here is what's going on in a nutshell:

This version of the US Gubmint has *obviously* and demonstratively been co-opted by subversive elements whose ONLY objective is to complete the New World Order mission of nullifying the US Constitution and US sovereignty.

ALL these military exercises are obviously NOT in preparation for subduing urban (as well as suburban) populations in any foreign nation, but instead in preparation of subduing the citizenry in US cities and towns. Frankly, I don't understand how or why this subversive mission is even questioned, considering the identities of those who lord over us.

Consider:

1) Jade Helm is necessary step of enforcing Agenda 21
2) The militarization of sporting events
3) The feminization of sporting events as cultural sledgehammers
4) The stealth war against county/city Police Depts (setting up fedgoob takeovers)
5) The regime's known agenda and propaganda campaign to nullify the 2A
6) The overt facilitation of race wars and character assassination of white males and Christians
7) The purposefully aiding and abetting of allowing tens of millions of illegals -- many criminal or potent terr-ists, MOST un-vetted or un-identified; the sexualization, gender-fication
8) The homosexualization of the military and gubmint at the HIGHEST LEVELS -- including the Pentagram and White Hut
9) The targeted harrassment of politically active conservative by alphabet agencies
10) Ridiculous, suicidal ROE policies, feminizing the US military, destroying morale
11-11,000 -- Jade Helm is not a stand-alone Red Flag; It is part of a tapestry of countless battle fronts closing in on us and the America we knew just a generation ago. -- Space and time stop me from continuing this count.

Like the mini-martial Law exercise engaged during the "Boston Marathon Bomber" (and "drill" planned during the day), the Jade Helm Op is an exercise of intimidation and execution. Only on a massive scale. It will be the first in a series of highly detailed, highly executed domestic military exercises....until the REAL thing is engaged. Nationwide. And people will believe: "Meh. It's only a drill."

Look -- we here are ALL on the same side (save for one toxic troll.) How and *why should* we be convinced that ANY operation or policy facilitated by this gubmint is for our benefit? Especially Jade Helm? How can this not be a matter of obvious divide & conquer politics, a subversive policy, and giant step toward tyranny?

Liberator  posted on  2015-06-10   14:19:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Liberator (#53)

Most of us would point to 9/11 as THE watershed moment that dramatic changes in the reduction of liberty began occurring in the lives of Americans. But if we really want to examine exactly when Americans began sacrificing liberty for "security," it began back in 1991 when Poppy Bush and his globalist NWO cadre decided to invade Iraq, disrupt life as we'd known it, shattering the peace, freedom, and optimism marked by Ronald Reagan's administration.

The initial salvo was the Sedition Act of 1798. And there was the Sedition Act (aka Espionage Act) of 1918. Lincoln assumed the authority to delegate to the military the authority to suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus, and the senior military were empowered to delegate the power to suspend the writ down the chain of command to lower officers. Secretary of War Stanton assumed the authority to suspend the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus nationwide. The Kennedy assassination led to expanded jurisdiction for the FBI.

And Lincoln and the Civil War Congress assumed the authority to ignore the Constitution and set up the Bureau of Internal Revenue (later renamed the Internal Revenue Service) and implement an unapportioned income tax.

The federal income tax and the Internal Revenue Service did not start after the 16th Amendment in 1913. That started with the Revenue Act of 1861, effective January 1, 1862. The Act of August 5, 1861 is at 37 Stat. 292 - 313.

At 292,

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That, from and after the date of the passage of this act, in lieu of the duties heretofore imposed by law on the articles hereinafter mentioned, and on such as may now be exempt from duty, there shall be levied, collected, and paid, on the goods, wares, and merchandise herein enumerated and provided for, imported from for­eign countries, the following duties and rates of duty, that is to say:

At 309,

Sec. 49. And be it further enacted, That, from and after the first day of January next, there shall be levied, collected, and paid, upon the annual income of every person residing in the United States, whether such income is derived from any kind of property, or from any profession, trade, employment, or vocation carried on in the United States or else­where, or from any other source whatever, if such annual income ex­ceeds the sum of eight hundred dollars, a tax of three per centum on the amount of such excess of such income above eight hundred dollars Provided, That upon such portion of said income as shall be derived from interest upon treasury notes or other securities of the United States, there shall be levied, collected, and paid a tax of one and one half per centum. Upon the income, rents, or dividends accruing upon any property, securities, or stocks owned in the United States by any citi­zen of the United States residing abroad, there shall be levied, collected, and paid a tax of five per centum, excepting that portion of said income derived from interest on treasury notes and other securities of the Government of the United States, which shall pay one and one half per centum. The tax herein provided shall be assessed upon the annual income of the persons hereinafter named for the year next preceding the time for assessing said tax, to wit, the year next preceding the first of January, eighteen hundred and sixty-two; and the said taxes, when so assessed and made public, shall become a lien on the property or other sources of said income for the amount of the same, with the interest and other expenses of collection until paid: Provided, That, in estimating said income, all national, state, or local taxes assessed upon the property, from which the income is derived, shall be first deducted.

Sec. 50. And be it further enacted, That it shall be the duty of the President of the United States, and he is hereby authorized, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to appoint one principal assessor and one principal collector in each of the States and Territories of the United States, and in the District of Columbia, to assess and collect the internal duties or income tax imposed by this act, with authority in each of said officers to appoint so many assistants as the public service may require, to be approved by the Secretary of the Treasury. The said taxes to be assessed and collected under such regulations as the Secretary of the Treasury may prescribe.

At 312:

Sec. 55. And be it further enacted, That the amount of all debts due to the United States by any collector, under this act, whether secured by bond otherwise, shall and are hereby declared to be a lien upon the real estate and lands and real estate of such collector, and of his sureties, if he shall have given bond, from the time when suit shall be instituted for recovering the same; and, for want of goods and chattels and other personal effects of such collector or his sureties to satisfy any judgment which shall or may be recovered against them, respectively, such lands and real estate may be sold at public auction, after being advertised for at least three weeks in not less than three public papers within the collection district, and in one newspaper printed in the county, if any there be, at least six weeks prior to the time of sale; and for all lands or real estate sold in pursuance of the authority aforesaid, the conveyances of the marshals or their dep­uties, executed in due form of law, shall give a valid title against all persons claiming under such collector or his sureties, respectively.

Sec. 56. And be it further enacted, That, for superintending the collection of the direct tax and internal duties or income tax laid by this act, an officer is hereby authorized in the Treasury Department, to be called "Commissioner of Taxes," who shall be charged, under the direction of the Secretary, with preparing all the forms necessary for the assessment and collection of the tax and duties aforesaid, with preparing, signing, and distributing all such licenses as are required, and with the general super­intendence of all the officers employed in assessing and collecting said tax and duties; said commissioner shall be appointed by the President, upon the nomination of the Secretary of the Treasury, and he shall receive an annual salary of three thousand dollars. The Secretary of the Treasury may assign the necessary clerks to the office of said commissioner, whose aggregate salaries shall not exceed six thousand dollars per annum, and the amount required to pay the salaries of said commissioner and clerks is hereby appropriated.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-10   22:38:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: nolu chan (#87)

And Lincoln and the Civil War Congress assumed the authority to ignore the Constitution and set up the Bureau of Internal Revenue (later renamed the Internal Revenue Service) and implement an unapportioned income tax.

They first ignored the Constitution by refusing to allow the south to withdraw from the THEN "voluntary Union" by declaring war on them.

When the US Supreme Court told Lincoln that refusing to allow the south to secede and going to war against them was un-Constitutional,he told them if they issued that ruling he would send US Marshals around to arrest them and hold them without trial for the duration of the war.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-11   8:35:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: sneakypete (#90)

When the US Supreme Court told Lincoln that refusing to allow the south to secede and going to war against them was un-Constitutional, he told them if they issued that ruling he would send US Marshals around to arrest them and hold them without trial for the duration of the war.

The Supreme Court issued no such ruling holding secession or the war un-Constitutional or illegal. I'm not saying it wasn't illegal, only that SCOTUS issued no such ruling.

In the Prize Cases 67 U.S. 635 (1862) (5-4), SCOTUS upheld Lincoln and his war in progress.

As noted by James G. Randall in Constitutional Problems Under Lincoln, at page 54,

It is a significant fact that four judges out of nint, including the Chief Justice, dissented from this opinion. The grounds of their dissent were that the legal change from peace to war profoundly affects private relations; that a declaration is necessary; that a civil war must be recognized by the war-making power within the Government; that the President's power to deal with an insurrection (being an exercise of power under the municipal laws of the country, not nder the law of nations) is by no means equivalent to the war power, and that Congress alone has the power of declaring, or legally recognizing, war. According to the dissenting view, the act of Congress of July 13, 1861, which recognized a state of war as between the Government of the United States and that of the Confederate States, was the legal beginning of the war, and captures before that date were invalid.

It will be noticed that the point on which the court divided was as to the existence of a legal state of war between April and July. The whole court agreed that from July 13, 1861, when Congress officially recognized a state of war, the President became invested with the war power, and the legal concomitants of a state of war were in force. They divided, with the Chief Justice in the minority, on the question of the President's power and of the legality of the war before that time.

Whew. By 5-4, they ruled that the war then in progress had not been waged unlawfully from April to July. That was too close. The lopsided Congress soon passed legislation, and Lincoln signed it, to increase the Court to 10 justices. With the justices from the Confederate states who resigned, and the enlargement of the Court, the Court came to hold 5 Lincoln nominees, and everything thereafter was safe.

The various SCOTUS opinions touching upon the Civil War tie themselves in knots while ruling on various points in incompatible ways, according to the point desired to be made. Essentially, the Constitution was subjected to serial rape.

I believe you may be inaccurately recalling the case of Ex Parte Merryman which involved the suspension of the privilege of habeas corpus by a military officer in Pennsylvania and ordering the arrest of John Merryman in Maryland.

The result was not an opinion of the Supreme Court proper, but an "in chambers" opinion of Chief Justice Taney sitting in the Circuit Court but acting as the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court. Taney ruled that the suspension of the privilege of the writ was unlawful and ordered General Cadwallader (in possession of the body of John Merryman) to appear before the Court. Lincoln's decision was to ignore the ruling of Chief Justice Taney. There is substantial evidence that Lincoln issued a warrant for the arrest of Taney and gave same to Marshal Ward Hill Lamon, but Lamon never executed the warrant.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-11   14:26:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#119. To: nolu chan (#101)

The Supreme Court issued no such ruling holding secession or the war un-Constitutional or illegal. I'm not saying it wasn't illegal, only that SCOTUS issued no such ruling.

The way I remember reading about it,the issue was never formally put before them. The Chief Justice merely advised Lincoln that what he was doing was illegal,and then was threatened with arrest if he issued that opinion.

Not being a fool,he kept his opinions to himself.

I believe you may be inaccurately recalling the case of Ex Parte Merryman which involved the suspension of the privilege of habeas corpus by a military officer in Pennsylvania and ordering the arrest of John Merryman in Maryland.

It has been decades since I read about this,but I read it in a book that was supposed to have been based on Lincoln's diary,the memoirs of those involved,and public documents.

sneakypete  posted on  2015-06-11 22:42:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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