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Title: Alabama Senate Votes to End State Marriage Licenses
Source: FEE
URL Source: http://fee.org/anythingpeaceful/det ... to-end-state-marriage-licenses
Published: Jun 2, 2015
Author: Jeffery Tucker
Post Date: 2015-06-02 12:08:07 by cranko
Keywords: None
Views: 11840
Comments: 69

Why are there marriage “licenses” – a permission slip granted or denied by the state – rather than just contracts like any other? Why does government stand in the position to veto the choices of two people who want to commit to each other?

These are questions that the Alabama Senate considered in May this year. The result was the passage of Senate Bill 377, supported by 22 senators and opposed by only 3. Under this legislation, licenses would no longer exist for marriage. Marriage would become a plain contract filed with the Probate offices.

In effect, this would restore the traditional role of law in marriage as it has existed in most times and places, before the racially motivated and eugenically inspired idea of “marriage licenses” came along in the early part of the 20th century.

Governments embraced them as part of a larger effort to stop race mixing and to reduce procreation among undesirables. They were later entrenched as a standard of proof for government benefits claimants.

The conception of marriage as a legal contract, in contrast, exists as the private decision of the parties involved, along with a legal representative (and/or clergy) and witnesses. Just as anyone can make a contract for goods and services, marriage would become purely a matter of individual choice, not government decree.

This step would go a long way toward ending the division and confusion over marriage that has taken over the state, pitting one group against another and leading to a tug-of-war between the federal government and a politically ambitious judge in the state who speaks for religious fundamentalists.

It would bring about a nearly complete ceasefire in this front of the trumped-up culture war. Surprisingly, the moved has been welcomed by most, if only as an answer to the legal confusions that have come about from conflicting court orders.

In January, a federal court ruled that Alabama must grant licenses to same- sex couples.

In response, the fundamentalist state Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore (of the 10 Commandments Monument fame) issued a directive telling probate justices to ignore the rule.

In March, the Supreme Court issued an edict stopping judges from issuing any licenses to same-sex couples. Moreover, following the Senate passage of this bill, a US District Court ordered the state to comply with federal mandates.

As a result, no one knows for sure what to do, and thousands of same-sex couples, driven out of the state in order to marry, are unclear whether their unions are recognized by the state.

How such a dramatic shift would affect the thousands of legal benefits and privileges afforded to those with licenses is unclear. Regardless, it will be worth the test because the current system is outdated, anachronistic, and deeply divisive. As long as government is the decision maker, the voting citizenry imagines itself to have a stake in the shape of decisions that should only involve those party to the exchange.

It would also end the dispute over finding a legal definition of marriage that applies to all. Keep in mind that this is not only about same-sex couples. Many religious traditions have strict rules concerning what is and is not a valid marriage. The Catholic Church, for example, will not codify a second marriage if the first one remains not annulled by Church courts. Their conceptions are not the same as the states’.

The search for a single definition for everyone, created and enforced by the state, is untenable, and threatens actual damage to the institution and to millions of people who, for whatever private reason, happen to disagree. The move from licenses to contracts would leave the terms and conditions entirely up to the couple. The civic order as such has no role whatsoever in intervening.

What is driving this change? Some people speculate that conservative Alabama politicians and judges anticipate being forced by courts to accept same-sex marriage and want nothing to do with it. By getting rid of licenses completely, they remove their own moral (or electoral) culpability for legally approving something they find offensive. Perhaps that's right, but ulterior motives aside, it seems like a step in the right direction.

To be sure, this is not a perfect solution. The best answer would leave marriage entirely up to private parties. In my own case, in 2014, I officiated at a wedding in which the couple filed their vows and promises on the Blockchain, a distributed ledger that provides an immutable record. Though it has no legal standing now, the couple was anticipating a time when marriage is completely taken out of the realm of public policy altogether.

Nonetheless, the end of the license and its replacement with a plain contract would take us a long way in the direction of the goal: a complete wall of separation between the state and marriage. Otherwise, the culture war will continue without end, and everyone will lose.

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State governments first started requiring marriage licenses during the Progressive Era to prevent whites from marrying people of other races.

So, government marriage licenses have been a corrupt enterprise from the very beginning.

It's time to end them.

cranko  posted on  2015-06-02   12:10:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#3. To: cranko (#1) (Edited)

State governments first started requiring marriage licenses during the Progressive Era to prevent whites from marrying people of other races.

So, government marriage licenses have been a corrupt enterprise from the very beginning.

It's time to end them.

That is very true and it was also done to do blood tests to prevent people from being married that would produce a bad result like sickle cell. That is why in movies from the 40s there is always this "blood test" that has to be performed before a license is granted. It is a left over from the eugenics movement.

I tried to explain this to social conservatives who wanted to prevent gay marriage and my recommendation (proposed by libertarians which I agreed with) was to get the govt out of granting marriage licenses and tax credits for marriage (not fair to single people anyway). The reason marriage is an equal rights issue is because married couples get benefits and non married couples don't.

But the social conservatives refused to hear this. They actively want the govt enforcing marriage codes and licenses as long as it meets their version of marriage. Sadly, that is not possible any longer.

Pericles  posted on  2015-06-02 12:34:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: cranko (#1)

State governments first started requiring marriage licenses during the Progressive Era to prevent whites from marrying people of other races.

So, government marriage licenses have been a corrupt enterprise from the very beginning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_license

England & Wales

A requirement for banns of marriage was introduced to England and Wales by the Church in 1215. This required a public announcement of a forthcoming marriage, in the couple's parish church, for three Sundays prior to the wedding and gave an opportunity for any objections to the marriage to be voiced (for example, that one of the parties was already married or that the couple was related within a prohibited degree), but a failure to call banns did not affect the validity of the marriage.

Marriage licences were introduced in the 14th century, to allow the usual notice period under banns to be waived, on payment of a fee and accompanied by a sworn declaration, that there was no canonical impediment to the marriage. Licences were usually granted by an archbishop, bishop or archdeacon. There could be a number of reasons for a couple to obtain a licence: they might wish to marry quickly (and avoid the three weeks' delay by the calling of banns); they might wish to marry in a parish away from their home parish; or, because a licence required a higher payment than banns, they might choose to obtain one as a status symbol.

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United States

In the United States, until the mid-19th century, common-law marriages were recognized as valid, but thereafter some states began to invalidate common-law marriages. Common-law marriages, if recognized, are valid, notwithstanding the absence of a marriage license. North Carolina and Tennessee (which originally was western North Carolina) never recognized marriage at the common law as valid without a license - if the marriage was entered into in North Carolina or Tennessee. They have always recognized otherwise valid marriages (except bigamous) entered into in conformity with the law of other states, territories and nations.

nolu chan  posted on  2015-06-02 15:40:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: cranko (#1)

State governments first started requiring marriage licenses during the Progressive Era to prevent whites from marrying people of other races.

I always thought it was to prevent Alabamans (and West Virginians) from marrying their twelve-year-old kissin' cousins... but I guess it shouldn't surprise me that the Tea Party wants to return to the traditional shotgun enforced marriage "contract"

Willie Green  posted on  2015-06-03 08:52:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: cranko, Pericles (#1)

State governments first started requiring marriage licenses during the Progressive Era to prevent whites from marrying people of other races.

Then it evolved to help prevent marrying cousins which was still prevalent at the time in the South, a prominent example being Pat Robertson whose parents were first cousins. I know there were a few other famous examples but can't recall them at the moment.

Sickle cell anemia was not as well-known at the time nor was testing widely available.

The blood testing was also used as cover for testing for venereal diseases and for rH blood factor in offspring.

Nearly every state has abolished the blood test requirement.

http://usmarriagelaws.com/search/united_states/blood_test_requirements/index.shtml

As if finding the perfect mate and planning the perfect wedding were not hard enough, some people discover only days before their wedding that they must have a blood test before a marriage license will be issued. Then again, a blood test may be unnecessary. It depends where you live, and, in some states, whether you are a man or a woman. The laws vary from state to state, and in recent years more and more states have dropped the requirement altogether. Is this a good idea? Can your marriage be delayed by the results of these tests? What are the tests for, anyway? Read on to learn about the myths and facts behind premarital blood testing.

Why the "Marriage Blood Test"?

Some people believe that the premarital blood test is to check blood types to be sure you and your future spouse are biologically compatible. (So far, there is no test to determine whether you are otherwise compatible!) While checking the blood type may be helpful in the event of pregnancy — and it is routinely checked then in case a transfusion is needed and to check the Rh type — it is not part of the routine premarital blood test. It is perfectly safe and acceptable for a person of one blood type to marry another with the same or a different blood type. Another myth is that the required blood testing is to make sure you and your betrothed are not related.

In fact, in most locations, the standard premarital blood tests check for evidence of syphilis (now or in the past) and rubella (German measles). Screening for other diseases in future newlyweds has in some cases included tuberculosis, gonorrhea, and HIV; of these, only HIV can be detected by blood tests. Only two states have passed legislation requiring HIV testing before marriage, but those laws did not last long at least in part because of very low detection rates.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-06-03 11:07:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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