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Title: Oklahoma Troopers: Here's Why We Shot a Pastor
Source: newser.com
URL Source: http://www.newser.com/story/207663/ ... eres-why-we-shot-a-pastor.html
Published: Jun 1, 2015
Author: Neal Colgrass
Post Date: 2015-06-02 08:09:00 by Gatlin
Keywords: None
Views: 1693
Comments: 19

(NEWSER) – An assistant pastor killed during an encounter with Oklahoma troopers Friday night played a key role in his own demise, according to the Oklahoma Highway Patrol. In a short press conference today, Capt. Paul Timmons said the shooting victim, Nehemiah Fischer, attacked a trooper and was carrying a gun when he was shot, Tulsa World reports. Timmons also presented part of a dash cam video that shows two officers shouting at the assistant pastor and his brother, Brandon Fischer, who were apparently stuck in rising floodwaters trying to push a truck. "Come out of that water! State troopers!" a trooper shouts in the video. "Settle down, you understand me? Settle down." Two men can be seen entering the video; one rushes a trooper, while the other trooper draws his gun.

Meanwhile, Brandon, 41, appeared in district court today via video feed over two complaints: public intoxication and assault and battery on an officer. And Nehemiah's father, JR Fischer, described himself as confused and heartbroken: "If it was going to happen to anybody, it should have happened to me because all my boys are twice the man that I am," he says. The pastor at Nehemiah's Faith Bible Church is also shocked, saying that his 35-year-old assistant pastor "would never charge someone who is an officer. That’s just not him. It doesn’t make any sense." Nehemiah and Brandon were fishing on their dad's property in rural Okmulgee County when their truck stalled and the troopers showed up at around 9:30pm. The troopers—one with a year's experience, and one with eight—are on administrative leave, the AP reports.

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Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-02   8:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Gatlin (#0)

It's about time someone responsible posted a factual story about this. The video is a far cry from the YELLA bullshit that Deckard tried to indoctrinate LE hatred with.

Thanks, Gatlin.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-02   8:41:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Gatlin, GrandIsland (#1)

Cop : "In order for us to save you from dying from these flood waters, I am going to shoot & kill you"

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-02   8:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Gatlin, All (#3) (Edited)

Cop : "In order for us to keep you from attacking officers, while armed with a gun, (as seen on video)...near the flood waters, I am going to shoot & kill you"

I had to wipe the YELLA off...

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-02   8:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Deckard, GrandIsland (#3)

Nope, I am going to shoot and kill when you attack me armed with a pistol. You betcha!

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-02   9:50:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: GrandIsland (#4)

In a short press conference today, Capt. Paul Timmons said the shooting victim, Nehemiah Fischer, attacked a trooper and was carrying a gun when he was shot, Tulsa World reports

The cops lied here.

Why should I believe this cop is telling the truth?

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-02   9:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: GrandIsland (#2)

The "pastor's" gun was found on the ground after both OHP officers shot him.

The "pastor's" brother was drunk....any doubt as to what the autopsy will show about the pastor?

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-02   10:00:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Gatlin (#5)

The video shows exactly that. THEY ATTACKED the officer.

Stupid games deserves stupid prizes.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-02   10:03:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Gatlin (#7)

any doubt as to what the autopsy will show about the

From the video, I'll bet he was high on bath salts, meth or some kind of narcotic.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-02   10:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: GrandIsland (#9)

any doubt as to what the autopsy will show about the

From the video, I'll bet he was high on bath salts, meth or some kind of narcotic.

Gotta be, or something. No one in their right mind should ever charge an officer, knock him to ground....especially if they are armed and their gun is found lying on the ground after they are shot.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-02   10:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Gatlin (#10)

No one in their right mind should ever charge an officer, knock him to ground....especially if they are armed and their gun is found lying on the ground after

Deckard states that's every persons constitutional right...

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-02   10:15:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: GrandIsland (#11) (Edited)

No one in their right mind should ever charge an officer, knock him to ground....especially if they are armed and their gun is found lying on the ground after

Deckard states that's every persons constitutional right...

More importantly, everyone has a right to die. It is a cop who has the right to sometimes pick the time and place.

(Gotta remember that one).

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-02   10:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Gatlin (#12) (Edited)

More importantly, everyone has a right to die. It is a cop who has the right to sometimes pick the time and place.

Well I have no problem arranging the meeting, between them and their maker, if one of Deckards hero's provides me use of deadly force justification through HIS actions towards me.

I believe in self defense... and I believe every officer has the same rights. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-02   10:56:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: GrandIsland (#13)

What I found interesting about this unfortunate situation is that the father of the pastor was saying all the things you would normally find in a yellow journalism piece, things like his son was perfect and would never do anything wrong. After he saw the video, the father said something like, I can’t understand why he did that. The yellow journalism stories are still floating around on the Internet with the father’s first impression. I had to search deeply and accidently found what the father had to say later after viewing the video. And a couple of people wonder why we continue to call the articles they post, yellow journalism.

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-02   11:03:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Gatlin (#14) (Edited)

After he saw the video, the father said something like, I can’t understand why he did that

lol... and this fella lost a son and is smart enough to change his tune after seeing the video... but we have posters here too ignorant to see the light. I won't mention names. I'll just give initials... D (eckard). lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-02   11:11:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: GrandIsland, Gatlin (#11)

especially if they are armed and their gun is found lying on the ground after

POLICE ADMIT PLANTING GUNS AND DRUGS IN CARS, LAUGH ABOUT IT

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-02   11:26:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Deckard (#16)

PEOPLE ADMIT TO READING YELLOW JOURNALISM AND BELIEVE IT

Gatlin  posted on  2015-06-02   12:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Gatlin (#17)

Deckard says everyone is innocent because at one time or another, a cop was corrupt. Do you see how the mind of an anarchist works?

Can you imagine living in a society full of Deckards. lol

Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy

GrandIsland  posted on  2015-06-02   13:04:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: GrandIsland (#18)

Deckard says everyone is innocent because at one time or another, a cop was corrupt.

I say the entire cop system is corrupt because of jackasses like you supporting that corruption.

Do you see how the mind of an anarchist works?

Yeah - every one who points out crooked cops is an anarchist.

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts

Deckard  posted on  2015-06-02   21:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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