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Title: Snowdens a Hero, Drug Wars a Failure, Guns Arent for Hunting Vince Vaughn Tells it Like it Is!
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Free Thought Project
URL Source: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sn ... hunting-vince-vaughn-tells-is/
Published: Jun 1, 2015
Author: Matt Agorist
Post Date: 2015-06-01 18:56:50 by Deckard
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In a recent interview with the British edition of GQ magazine, Vince Vaughn held no punches about his thoughts on liberty in America. A preview of the interview was posted on the GQ website Monday highlighting four key points. The first point was about Vaughn’s role in “assembly-line comedies” to which he responded candidly and honestly. The next three topics of conversation, however, is when the interview became particularly interesting. All too often we see Hollywood personalities side with the establishment. They toe the line with the day’s current talking points and serve as little more than passive reverberators of the status quo. The line between Hollywood and the government is deliberately blurred, and politicians often use famous personalities to bolster their public image. When a Hollywood actor crosses this blurred line of establishment cheerleading, they are normally drug through the slosh pit of MSM and hung out to dry. However, this has yet to happen with Vaughn, and most likely because his stance is based in logic. When GQ asked Vaughn about where he stands on the American Government, Vaughn responded with the following: “Edward Snowden is a hero. I like what he did. My idea of treason is that you sell secrets to the enemy. He gave information to the American people. Snowden didn’t take information for money or dogmas. Governments claim to write endless laws to protect us, a law for this, a law for that, but are they working? I don’t think so. The consequences are that there is a staggering loss of freedom for the individual. I look at the drug wars and they are absolutely f***ing ridiculous. There is a black market and the prisons are overcrowded and it’s not preventing drug use. There’s a corruption that goes all the way to the top.” Vaughn calling out America’s war on drugs is something that most of Hollywood refuses to do. It’s a gutsy move that needs to be said by more people who have such a large forum. But it just doesn’t happen. He also called Edward Snowden a hero, and he’s right! Snowden risked his life to inform the American people about the atrocities committed by the US government. The typical hot air spewed from the right wing of the establishment about Snowden is that he’s a trader and deserves to be imprisoned and/or killed. Vaughn’s view on Snowden, coupled with his next point about gun control, is likely to cause some conservative heads to explode. GQ asked Vaughn about what he thought on the American’s right to own a gun. This was his response: “I support people having a gun in public full stop, not just in your home. We don’t have the right to bear arms because of burglars; we have the right to bear arms to resist the supreme power of a corrupt and abusive government. It’s not about duck hunting; it’s about the ability of the individual. It’s the same reason we have freedom of speech. It’s well known that the greatest defence against an intruder is the sound of a gun hammer being pulled back. All these gun shootings that have gone down in America since 1950, only one or maybe two have happened in non-gun-free zones. Take mass shootings. They’ve only happened in places that don’t allow guns. These people are sick in the head and are going to kill innocent people. They are looking to slaughter defenceless human beings. They do not want confrontation. In all of our schools it is illegal to have guns on campus, so again and again these guys go and shoot up these f***ing schools because they know there are no guns there. They are monsters killing six-year-olds.” Queue the conservative peanut gallery, “But how can he be pro-gun and pro-Snowden?” That’s an easy one Foxaholics; it’s because he’s pro-Freedom! But Vaughn does not stop there, he turns up the pro-gun notch to “11” in his next answer. Below is Vaughn’s response after he’s asked by GQ if he thinks guns should be allowed in schools. “Of course. You think the politicians that run my country and your country don’t have guns in the schools their kids go to? They do. And we should be allowed the same rights. Banning guns is like banning forks in an attempt to stop making people fat. Taking away guns, taking away drugs, the booze, it won’t rid the world of criminality.” There you have it. Vince Vaughn not only shatters to status quo-supporting Hollywood paradigm, but he obliterates the Left/Right paradigm as well. The Free Thought Project would like to thank Mr. Vaughn for having the courage to speak truth to power. It is quite heartening to see.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
Vince Vaughn is far more intelligent than most of the asshats in Hollyweird!
Si vis pacem, para bellum
He wants to legalize all drugs. I assume that includes prescription drugs and also includes all ages. That's an intelligent solution?
He wants to legalize all drugs. I assume that includes prescription drugs and also includes all ages. That's an intelligent solution? Claratin used to be a prescription drug....
And more conservative than many of the self-proclaimed "conservatives" here.
Prednisone (or Cortisone) is listed as the most dangerous of all prescription drugs.
I disagree with the author. He is clearly confused and thinks neo-cons are the same thing as consdervatives. If they were,they wouldn't be "neo". Neo means "new",which is another way of saying "different".
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I think what the author meant was that conservatives are big on gun rights. On Snowden - not so much. Vaughn’s view on Snowden, coupled with his next point about gun control, is likely to cause some conservative heads to explode. Many conservatives think Snowden is a traitor, and not just the neocon types either.
That is true. I keep my opinion to myself when it comes to Snowden. It can be said that most Americans now know what the No Such Agency is. Problem is that most of them don't seem to care that every keystroke and phone call is captured.
And more conservative than many of the self-proclaimed "conservatives" here. Nah, not so! Vince Vaughn is someone that people are sometimes surprised is more libertarian than many of the self-proclaimed "libertarians" here....and he is espousing some of his libertarian views. Vince Vaughn: “I would use the term libertarian to describe my politics.” Vince Vaught: “I am a very big fan of Ron Paul." Vince Vaughn is a Paultard. That’s all I needed to know about him….I’m outta here.
MOST drugs are over the counter in Canada, I guess they are more intelligent, thoughtful, balanced and plain better than Americans......sarcasm off now.......
http://www.life-sources.com/pages/The-12-most-Dangerous-Prescription- Drugs....html From the same link he got his factoid from in order to prove non prescription drugs are bad: "An article appeared in the Washington Post of April 1998, stating that..."106,000 people die annually in the U.S. from properly prescribed drugs.""
Not really. They just know the name. They have no idea of the power and the reach,and wouldn't believe you if you tried to tell them. It does need to be said that the NSA has always remained above the political fray,though. Their ability to gather data on anyone and everyone has made them pretty immune to power plays by the President of the day.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Right, and that included prescriptions given for OTC drugs also. Common over-the-counter medications can cause harm if they're not taken properly.
So then this prescription non prescription boogie man in the war of drugs is bogus.
That's an intelligent solution? An intelligent solution requires intelligent and complex approach. Drugs like caffeine and nicotine should be completely legal with limited and calibrated regulation. Drugs like marihuana or stimulants (natural coca leaves) may be restricted and decriminalized. Heavier drugs like peyote, cocaine etc banned but not a subject to severe prosecution - fines instead of prisons, misdemeanors instead of crimes. Heavy and dangerous drugs like heroine should be banned with the exception of specific tightly limited medical use. User should not be penalized but helped either by therapy or substitute substances - often heroine or other strong opioids are a form of self-medication for depressed people, perhaps anti-depression psychiatric drugs might be a good replacement.
That’s all I needed to know about him…. It says more about you that Paul's ideals still scare you, even though he has been out of office for years. Nothing about Ron Paul was scary to me. Laughable? Yea, everything. Out of office is where he should have been after his first term….in fact, he should not have even served one term. He was worthless, as evidenced by his long record of glorious failures in Congress. Of the 620 bills sponsored by Ron Paul during his long career in the House of Representatives, only four have ever made it to a vote on the House floor and only one of those became an actual law. Tell us what the one that became law was.
The entire concept of freedom is scary to you, Leather Boy.
Drugs like caffeine and nicotine should be completely legal with limited and calibrated regulation. Drugs like marihuana or stimulants (natural coca leaves) may be restricted and decriminalized. Heavier drugs like peyote, cocaine etc banned but not a subject to severe prosecution - fines instead of prisons, misdemeanors instead of crimes. Heavy and dangerous drugs like heroine should be banned with the exception of specific tightly limited medical use. User should not be penalized but helped either by therapy or substitute substances - often heroine or other strong opioids are a form of self-medication for depressed people, perhaps anti-depression psychiatric drugs might be a good replacement. My solution is simple. If it grows in the ground naturally it should not be criminalized. There are plenty of plants that grow in a garden that if chewed on will make a human sick or kill them but they are not banned. If a chemical process is needed to extract the narcotic then criminalize that. So coca leaves would be legal to sell to adults but cocaine illegal, etc.
That's an intelligent solution? " My position is mainly in reference to his views on 2nd Amendment, and Govt in general. I had no intention of being in relation to his position on drugs. And when compared to most in Hollyweird, I still think he is more intelligent.
Si vis pacem, para bellum
I am as free as I could ever be. I have been doing anything I want to and whenever I want to do it....since I went into full retirement in 1975. Freedom is a wonderful thing....try to enjoy your day at work for the MSM and don't CHEAT your employer out of too much money by posting all day when you should be working, thief.
He's an actor. As with all other actors, he should STFU and act.
Why? What's your standard? Nicotine kills hundreds of thousands of people. Essentially your solution is to legalize marijuana and keep all other drugs illegal, just lighten the penalties. The War on Drugs remains, however. Wow! You're striking a real blow for freedom there. What a bold proposal.
Imagine if we ended the War on Drugs and those drugs were available to everyone over-the-counter.
Imagine if we ended the War on Drugs and those drugs were available to everyone over-the-counter. Lots of the stupid people would die out I imagine. In any case, my solution is simple. If it grows in the ground naturally it should not be criminalized. There are plenty of plants that grow in a garden that if chewed on will make a human sick or kill them but they are not banned. If a chemical process is needed to extract the narcotic then criminalize that. So coca leaves would be legal to sell to adults but the extracted cocaine illegal, etc. Meth illegal. Heroin illegal but the opium paste (or whatever it is) will be legal.
You've been retired for 40 years?
Imagine if we ended the War on Drugs and those drugs were available to everyone over-the-counter. As it is now, people assume if a doctor prescribes them, they must be safe to take. Because of the FDA and prescription system, Americans assume they can't be hurt by prescription drugs. Part of the sheeple mentality. Start making people responsible for their own well being, and amazing things may start to happen.
Yes, and I am still enjoying every moment of it.
Look up Laudanum
I looked it up. What I meant was the latex liquid - that white milky substance you see when they slice the opium plant would be legal to sell to adults but not tinctures like laudanum or the whole flower fresh or dried or in powder. At this point my chemistry fails me. Basically the flower and leafs shouls be legal but no chemical refinement to concentrate the extracts would be legal.
He is 100% on target. Like most government programs, the so-called "War on Drugs" has been a complete and utter failure as measured by it's own goals: - The percentage of people using drugs has not dropped significantly over the last 50 years. It goes up and down, year-by-year based on current social trends. - The addiction rate hasn't changed at all in the last half century. The "War on Drugs" has not just failed to meet it's goals, it has also been destructive: - It created a black market where criminals from Latin American cartels to American inner city gangs control the drug trade with a level of violence and ruthlessness that we haven't seen since alcohol prohibition - It helped, along with welfare programs, to destroy the inner cities - It overcrowded prisons with millions of non-violent drug users The government does many brain dead, stupid things. But the so-called "War on Drugs" has to be the most idiotic.
You've been retired for 40 years? ---- Pinguinite The 'major gatlin' persona is as old and tired as the 'admiral harrowup' one was. If LF's Walter Mitty was smart, he would give up his silly multi-persona fetish, kill off the major (as he did with h'rup) and come back as what he really sees himself as, -- a sort of demi-God.
The entire concept of freedom is scary to you, Leather Boy. I am as free as I could ever be. I have been doing anything I want to and whenever I want to do it....since I went into full retirement in 1975. Freedom is a wonderful thing....try to enjoy your day at work for the MSM and don't CHEAT your employer out of too much money by posting all day when you should be working, thief. Living off socialism is great for some people....
The 'major gatlin' persona is as old and tired as the 'admiral harrowup' one was. Well, honestly, I was thinking lately that Gatlin's posts that so casually discount the hardships people suffer at the hands of a clearly out of control police and/or prosecuters, even in cases where such incidences are not necessarily systemic, might not be sincere on Gatlins part. Rather, perhaps he was simply semi-sarcastically siding with the government against these people, perhaps for the purpose of yanking Deckard's and other's chains. But good gravy.... If Gatlin's been retired for 40 years then he may well have retired far too young, which may explain why he's so out of touch with what it's like for people who have to work to put food on the table. Not that I'd hold anything against someone who's truely earned the reward of retiring young. But even in those cases, losing touch with the life of average people is a reasonable consequence of doing so.
Now there's the scientific approach we've been looking for! Wait. Add that "it must be green" and "it must start with the letter 'M'".
Paul's ideals still scare you Paul's ideals are pretty much the same ones that led to the Renaissance, and the American Revolution. Gatlin is stuck in the dark ages... a Feudal Lord wannabe tyrant. Nope. We're not putting drug users in prison. Those are all drug dealers and drug traffickers who would sell drugs to children. "The percentage of people using drugs has not dropped significantly over the last 50 years. It goes up and down, year-by-year based on current social trends." Do you favor making the War on Drugs a success, as measured by the number of people no longer using drugs? If so, then do you favor the repeal of medical marijuana laws, the repeal of decriminalization, enforcing existing laws and actually jailing users? Hah! You want fewer laws -- then you stamp your feet and cry, "The War on drugs isn't working!" Hypocrite.
Paul's ideals are pretty much the same ones that led to the Renaissance, and the American Revolution. Gatlin is stuck in the dark ages... Gatlin is stuck in his mother's dark basement, howling about 'paultartds'
Hypocrite. ---- misterwhite The War on drugs isn't working! The War on guns isnt working either.. And this fries mswhiteys ass.
Now there's the scientific approach we've been looking for! Wait. Add that "it must be green" and "it must start with the letter 'M'". I am trying to figure out how you can economically ban something that can grow in dirt and has a built in market for its use. I mean maybe from a Marx text book you can control supply and demand of such products but last time that happened in the age of prohibition it failed then.
The war on guns is over and gun ownership won. But there are people still invested in making you afraid you will lose your guns even after supreme court decisions supported right to carry a fire arm in DC and other places and no legislation to ban guns of any meaning has been passed in a long time. But that kind of peace of mind does not sell guns - paranoia that guns and ammo will be banned does fuel gun sales though. PS: Yes, we all know Bloomberg and others are still at gun banning but they are not making traction.
First, you admit the product can't be banned. If that's your yardstick of success, you'll fail. The best you can do is make the manufacture, distribution and possession illegal. Now, how far do you want to go on penalties? Realize that if the penalties are light, use will be higher. With the current level of enforcement and penalties, marijuana use is around 6%. If you want that lowered to 4-5%, more people are going to have to go to jail. You want that?
The bleeding heart would only want them to write on the chalkboard 100 times, I won't do it again. Anything more is cruel punishment. Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Laudanum is more like a preserve versus raw unpeeled fruit.
It appears that it may be for some people. It also appears that not everyone is buying into it when Americans are preached to that "free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity." I remember reading that Pew Research did a study and found an amazing number of Americans, 25 percent, do not believe they are better off in a free market system….and they implicitly prefer centrally-planned lives. Maybe they have something, since It can be said that socialist countries are successful. For proof of that, look at Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden to find they are almost always at the top 10 of best nations. They have a remarkably high standard of living, high education system, free health care and low crime rates. I personally think capitalism is better. How about you….which do you prefer?
You live off the taxpayer's dime not I so I have no basis of reference.
You live off the taxpayer's dime not I so I have no basis of reference. Ah, but you still can use intelligence to give you the mental ability to reason and make a comparative analysis. The question was not plurium interrogationum, it was a very simple one. I repeat: Which do you prefer, capitalism of socialism? You have acuity so I have no basis of reference to understand why you cannot answer the question. I said I prefer capitalism, because capitalism is better than socialism. Saying that capitalism is better than socialism is the same to me as saying that winning a million dollars is better than being in a high impact car crash. Simply because, anyone with an open mind, a good grasp on human nature and basic economics and a passing knowledge of world history will know there’s absolutely no question that capitalism is superior to socialism. But then, of course there are not pure capitalist and socialist systems. With all that in mind, is there any reason, once again, why you would be reluctant to say why capitalism is absolutely, undeniably, unquestionably superior to socialism?
Religious people seem to scare him too.. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Cause they are scared of their own shadows and are lazy. “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
#2. To: Stoner (#1)
"Vince Vaughn is far more intelligent than most of the asshats in Hollyweird!"
#3. To: misterwhite, Stoner (#2)
"Vince Vaughn is far more intelligent than most of the asshats in Hollyweird!"
#4. To: Stoner (#1)
(Edited)
Vince Vaughn is far more intelligent than most of the asshats in Hollyweird!
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#5. To: Pericles, misterwhite, Stoner (#3)
"Vince Vaughn is far more intelligent than most of the asshats in Hollyweird!"
He wants to legalize all drugs. I assume that includes prescription drugs and also includes all ages.
That's an intelligent solution?
Claratin used to be a prescription drug.... No physician I know would want to take prednisone for more than 2 weeks. It works great in the short term for things such as poison ivy. The long term side effects of this drug are devastating to the body. We have seen people in nursing homes whose bodies are totally destroyed by prednisone. Some of the side effects, as listed in the Physician's Desk Reference are as follows: High Blood Pressure Fluid Retention Potassium Loss Muscle Weakness Osteoporosis including fracture of long bones and broken vertebrae Peptic Ulcers Intestinal Bleeding Thin Fragile Skin ¬ including increased bruising Moon Faces Poor Wound Healing Diabetes Cataracts Reduced Resistance to Infection.
Prednisone (or Cortisone) is still a prescription drug….
#6. To: Deckard (#0)
Vaughn’s view on Snowden, coupled with his next point about gun control, is likely to cause some conservative heads to explode.
#7. To: sneakypete (#6)
I disagree with the author. He is clearly confused and thinks neo-cons are the same thing as consdervatives. If they were,they wouldn't be "neo". Neo means "new",which is another way of saying "different".
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#8. To: Deckard (#7)
Many conservatives think Snowden is a traitor, and not just the neocon types either.
#9. To: Deckard, Stoner, misterwhite, sneakypete, Pericles, Fred Mertz (#4)
(Edited)
Vince Vaughn is far more intelligent than most of the asshats in Hollyweird!
#10. To: Deckard (#0)
#11. To: Gatlin, misterwhite, Stoner (#5)
#12. To: Fred Mertz (#8)
It can be said that most Americans now know what the No Such Agency is.
#13. To: Pericles (#11)
(Edited)
"An article appeared in the Washington Post of April 1998, stating that..."106,000 people die annually in the U.S. from properly prescribed drugs.""
#14. To: Gatlin (#13)
#15. To: misterwhite (#2)
He wants to legalize all drugs. I assume that includes prescription drugs and also includes all ages.
#16. To: Gatlin, Dead Culture Watch, Fred Mertz, hondo68, Operation 40, Logsplitter, jeremiad, Pericles, Pinguinite (#9)
Vince Vaughn is a Paultard.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#17. To: Deckard (#16)
It says more about you that Paul's ideals still scare you…
… even though he has been out of office for years.
#18. To: Gatlin (#17)
Nothing about Ron Paul was scary to me.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#19. To: A Pole, misterwhite (#15)
An intelligent solution requires intelligent and complex approach.
#20. To: misterwhite (#2)
" He wants to legalize all drugs. I assume that includes prescription drugs and also includes all ages.
#21. To: Deckard (#18)
(Edited)
The entire concept of freedom is scary to you, Leather Boy.
#22. To: Stoner (#20)
"And when compared to most in Hollyweird, I still think he is more intelligent."
#23. To: A Pole (#15)
"Drugs like caffeine and nicotine should be completely legal"
#24. To: Pericles (#11)
..."106,000 people die annually in the U.S. from properly prescribed drugs."
#25. To: misterwhite (#24)
..."106,000 people die annually in the U.S. from properly prescribed drugs."
#26. To: Gatlin (#21)
since I went into full retirement in 1975.
#27. To: misterwhite (#24)
#28. To: Pinguinite (#26)
(Edited)
#29. To: Pericles (#25)
but the opium paste (or whatever it is) will be legal.
#30. To: A Pole (#29)
#31. To: Deckard (#0)
I look at the drug wars and they are absolutely f***ing ridiculous. There is a black market and the prisons are overcrowded and it’s not preventing drug use.
#32. To: Pinguinite Y'ALL, gatlin (#26)
Gatlin (#21) --- I went into full retirement in 1975.
#33. To: Gatlin, tpaine (#21)
#34. To: tpaine, Gatlin (#32)
#35. To: Pericles (#19)
"If it grows in the ground naturally it should not be criminalized."
#36. To: Deckard, Paulophobia (#16)
Paultard.
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#37. To: cranko (#31)
"It overcrowded prisons with millions of non-violent drug users".
#38. To: hondo68, Y'ALL, paulaphobic gatlin (#36)
Paulaphobic --- "Paultard".
#39. To: misterwhite, Y'ALL (#37)
Hah! You want fewer laws -- then you stamp your feet and cry, "The War on drugs isn't working!"
#40. To: misterwhite, A Pole (#35)
"If it grows in the ground naturally it should not be criminalized."
#41. To: tpaine (#39)
The War on drugs isn't working! The War on guns isnt working either..
#42. To: Pericles (#40)
"I am trying to figure out how you can economically ban something that can grow in dirt and has a built in market for its use."
#43. To: misterwhite (#42)
The best you can do is make the manufacture, distribution and possession illegal. Now, how far do you want to go on penalties? Realize that if the penalties are light, use will be higher.
#44. To: Pericles (#30)
#45. To: Pericles (#33)
Living off socialism is great for some people....
#46. To: Gatlin (#45)
personally think capitalism is better. How about you….which do you prefer?
#47. To: Pericles (#46)
personally think capitalism is better. How about you….which do you prefer?
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries. -- Winston Churchill
#48. To: Deckard (#16)
Paul's ideals still scare you
#49. To: Gatlin, Pericles (#45)
and they implicitly prefer centrally-planned lives.
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