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Title: Sorry......Not All Lives Matter
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Published: May 23, 2015
Author: William James Manifold
Post Date: 2015-05-25 19:52:53 by Gatlin
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This insightful and impassioned public commentary was written and posted to Facebook by William James Manifold. It is a powerful commentary that we felt needed to be repeated. Here it is in its entirety with a minor edit: So last night I noticed on my newsfeed, one of my Facebook friends made a statement that really pissed me off. Something along the lines of "Why do people have to hashtag when in mourning that certain lives matter…all lives matter". This comment was obviously in response to the community outpouring of support for Ofc. Kerrie Orozco who ended her watch yesterday afternoon. I wanted to take a moment to respond. First I beg to differ with you. All lives don’t matter. Now there’s a shocking statement, but it deserves repeating. All lives don’t matter…all lives have the potential to matter…but most certainly all lives don’t matter. Allow me to explain: Ofc Kerrie Orozco, now her life mattered. Why, well let me tell you a little about her. First she chose to serve her community, state and country by being a protector, a defender, a part of a thin blue line, a line of individuals past and present that stand between lawlessness and order, between the monsters and the weak, between good and evil. Every morning she pinned her badge on her uniform, or belt and walked out the door not really knowing if she would walk back in.Not only was she a dedicated law enforcement officer. She was a wife and mother. She was a coach to disadvantaged kids in the community which she served. She was a leader; and to quote her Chief “was a Top Notch person”. She made a difference in the lives of those she touched. She worked in a gang infested part of the city, and reached out to the children of that community each and every day to show them that there was a better way of life. In short, she made a difference…her life mattered. The Omaha metropolitan area will sorely miss her presence. A good cop died today. Contrast that to the individual that took her life yesterday. We’ll refer to him as Mr. POS as he doesn’t deserve to have his name mentioned. He was a gang member, drug dealer, convicted felon. His rap sheet included multiple shootings, accessory to murder, and the list goes on and on. He made a choice to be a menace to his community. His only contribution was pain and suffering. In my opinion…he did nothing to make his life matter, he made no difference…his life didn’t matter. His most outstanding contribution to the Omaha Metro area was that he also died yesterday. The original hashtag of “lives matter” came from a group of misguided individuals in Ferguson, MO who believed that law enforcement officers get up every day with the goal of shooting, or harassing, or arresting someone of a particular race. I can tell you that is absolutely false. Every officer I know or knew, worked with, served with all became an officer for one reason…to make a difference, because God knows it wasn’t for the money. Believe me when I say that almost all officers go out of their way to help those in the communities they serve, and when we find one that doesn’t fit this mold, we take care of that problem. They are educated, relieved of duty or arrested. There are so many examples just this year of law enforcement policing their own ranks. The hashtag #BlueLivesMatter was in response to the misguided notion that only people of certain race are being targeted, when in fact today law enforcement officers in every city are being actively targeted. In case you haven’t noticed…there is a war going on in our own streets today…it’s a war on law enforcement and unless YOU want to walk the line between good and evil, maybe YOU should do something to stop that war. Only YOU can make a difference and WE as a community everywhere must take a stand against those who would like to see our law enforcement officers neutered and defenseless. Our officers need to know that they are supported by their community and their leadership. Far too many today are more worried about being sued when they have to make a split second life or death decision that will experience days, weeks, months or years of armchair quarterbacking by the ill-informed. I’ve walked that thin line. I have many members of my family that walk that thin line still today. I have many friends who I call brother or sister that walk that thin line, and many more that have recently left the line. For those I say their lives matter, they made a difference, they did something that mattered, and when one of them dies…guess what, I’ll hashtag the hell out of my mourning because by whatever God you worship or don’t, by all things holy, #BlueLivesMatter. “And maybe remind the few if ill of us they speak, that we are all that stands between the monsters and the weak.” So far this year we have lost 45 lives that mattered, 45 people that served their communities, 45 people that made a difference, 45 brave souls that walked and stood on that thin line, 45 men and women that few will remember. Take a look at this picture; these are 4 of the last 7 officers that died in the line of duty in May protecting you and your family. Take a close look, these 7 are lives that mattered: Pictured in this posting: Not Pictured: Instead of you getting on some high horse thinking that you are being so damned enlightened with your “All Lives Matter” bullshit, you should be getting on your knees thanking each and every one of those people who gave their live so you can sleep at night, so you can walk the street, so you can enjoy the safety that they provide. Will any of them ever ask for your thanks, no. Do they deserve it, you bet they do. If I’ve offended you, I honestly don’t give a shit. You’re an adult, get over it or move on. And honestly, if you get offended that easily and don’t or won’t support our law enforcement officers then I really don’t have the time for you so good riddance. You are part of the problem. So circling back to my original thought, do all lives matter? No, all lives have the potential to matter. It’s up to the individual whether they want to matter or not. Everyone can make a difference; everyone has that opportunity to matter. What have YOU done with your life that matters? To my brothers and sisters still walking the line Omni Cedo Domus…Everyone goes home. You matter. To those that enjoy the blanket of protection they provide, show your support; turn on a blue light at night, thank an officer, attend a Citizens Police Academy, join a neighborhood watch, or just give a kind wave and a smile. You matter. To those that choose to walk on the “other side” of the line, well just keep walking, they’ll get to you eventually…you don’t matter. Ni Baolach Don Olcas Mise…only evil need fear me. May St. Michael keep watch over those still walking the line, and may God keep those who have ended their watch. #BlueLivesMatter #SupportBlue Author: William James Manifold
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#25. To: Gatlin (#13)
This comment is certainly not in sync with your next: Like hell you understand it. You don't want to understand my position but the above dribble is much like police departments investigating their own after a cop kills an innocent, harmless civilian. "We investigated and understand everything, and our man did a good job". This shouldn't be news to you and GI but it probably is, because you guys just can't consider others actually may not want to harm you. (Something that I guess comes with cops being trained to believe the ridiculous notion that everyone will kill a cop given any opportunity to do so, which is why innocent people get shot to hell because they pull out a cell phone or scratch their face while in the presense of a cop) but never have I ever posted anything that celebrates the killing of any cop. Saying cops die sometimes is nothing more than a fact of life and one you guys need to accept. Tell me this: How does your posting of this article talking about how not all lives matter, insulting people who disagree with the author, jive with your comment about the grand benevolence of Budda in politely refusing to accept ill will from others who choose to harbor it? Please explain that, because you are all over the map on this one.
If you take a human life intentionally, and it's not in immediate self-defense or as execution for murder of somebody who actually committed the killing (reliance on a corrupt legal system is no excuse if you kill the innocent), you're going to be thrown into the flames at the final judgment. So all lives matter, insofar that if you take one, you're going to Hell.
Agreed, it's a lie. Cops celebrate when, in the rare cases they are tried for killing someone, their own are found not guilty. The case that comes to mind is that one in California where cops harrassed, with no cause whatsoever, an innocent homeless man, including intimitading threats of "See these fists, they are going to fuck you up" shortly after he fled out of fear for his life, then beaten and killed. All on video and audio. Jury verdict: Not guilty. (Perhaps due to cops being too close to prosecuters who try them, leading to prosecuters doing a half-assed jobs in prosecuting cops).
I believe I am at a total loss to ever explain anything to you. It is just beyond my capability to do so. I can only surmise from your postings that you have an intense hatred. So that is not something I can help you with, if that is true.
I am taking time to go back and look at your post again and give it more consideration. I thought I understood it. But, then you may be correct and I don’t understand it. You are however wrong when you say that I don’t want to understand. I will parse your post and in doing so, maybe that will help me see what I may be missing. Lets go back and start with this: This is of course a generalization, and no doubt it does sometimes happen. But are you saying this happens all the time, too many times or what….and what do you base your conclusion on?
Please correct me if I'm wrong,but isn't that what we pay them to do?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Then I guess we have nothing to worry about because God is burning in hell at this moment for destroying whole cities and tribes of people. Unless of course he is a hypocrite,and "the commandments are for thee,and not me."
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I get the feeling he doesn't like that you disagree with what he "THINKS"...
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
All other parts here.
No Pete, God is God - creator and destroyer. He knows what he is doing. We are created beings, subject to orders. God kills all. He doesn't permit US to kill anybody. We are not in a position of equality with the creator, and never will be. We either obey and are rewarded for that, or we defy and are punished for it. The commandments are for men, not for God.
No. God kills no one. The devil is the one who came to KILL destroy and lie. God gave us life and doesn't want any of us to perish. The wages of sin are death. Which the sinner earned and brought on them self.
I see. He is the master and we are his slaves who will be tortured for eternity if we piss him off by doing the same things he does. Ok,now I see why you love him so much. (/S)
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The devil is the one who came to KILL destroy and lie. Who created the Devil?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Did not God condemn Adam and Eve, and hence all mankind, to physical death? HINT: Yes, read Genesis.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You are not supposed to ask THAT question.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
If I had some poison out. Then I told you not to eat of it or you would surely die. Did I condemn you to death?
1 Corinthians 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. Is God divided against himself? If he is how will the kingdom of heaven stand?
It says that the Devil has the power of death. Hebrews 2:14King James Version (KJV) 14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
God created the Devil and also you. Not much difference.
BOO!
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Yes, the Devil has the power to kill. And so do we all. BUT not a sparrow falls without the permission of the Father. And it says that when God breathes into us, we live, when he takes back his breath, we die. The Devil is a powerful agent of death, but the Devil only acts with God's permission. Think of Job: you can take his children and his goods and afflict him, but do not kill him, thus said God to the Devil.
God created Satan, of course.
You said "God kills all". That isn't true. Allowing to kill and to kill aren't =.
We won't be tortured for all eternity if we obey. Think of a rebellious private in the Marines. Will be be permitted to mouth off to the General and do as he pleases? No.
Perhaps that is indeed the case. The only thing I might have a hatred of is willful ignorance and willful hypocrisy, at least one of which it seems you are displaying on this thread.
Yes it is, ultimately, because we only die when God withdraws his breath from us, and that HE does, not the Devil. Nobody dies unless God withdraws his breath, and we die when God does that. God literally kills us all. His is the final say, and he does the final act: withdrawal of his breath.
You would have to back it up with more scripture to convince me.
Those were both polite disses. :)
Apparently the thread topic has completely diverged from the original article, but one nice thing about the Newton model of things is that this alleged characterization of God, as subject to anger, killing and condemnation, even if all done righteously, goes away completely.
I thought he left himself pretty wide open to mine. :^)
Those were both polite disses. :) I thought he left himself pretty wide open to mine. :^) Mine was much more polite. :) Of course, I had the advantage of age (maturity) working for me. :^)
All you have to do is enter voluntary slavery,huh?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Slavery. Well, I suppose yes. We are slaves of natural law. We don't choose to be born. We don't choose our parents or the circumstances of our upbringing, and those determine a great deal of what we become. We don't determine when our bodies develop cancer, or heart conditions, or strokes. Sure, we can eat healthy and live right, but we die anyway, as a certitude. And God is always there, giving us breath and taking it back in the end. And he will judge us. So it's not a question of CHOOSING the universe. The universe chose you, to exist, and there's nothing you can do about it. If you're in the plane that is going down in flames, you are indeed a slave of the physics. You may live, you will probably die, and there's nothing you can do about it. That's the way of existence. Life is what you do while you're waiting to die, and after that, more life, as a spirit. But also judgment, for what we did in life, and perhaps afterwards too. There's no ESCAPING this reality, no way off the plane. Given that, I suppose we are indeed slaves, as you put it. The question, then, is whether you want to live happily and sanely, as a slave of nature in this life and of God in this one and the next, or whether you want to be rebellious in this life, die unhappily, and then have a very unpleasant afterlife. Those are the two choices. There aren't any others. You're on the plane and headed to the gallows. You can escape any of it. And you can't will it out of existence. You can go into denial, as you have, and rage against the cage, but that doesn't open the cage. And it doesn't bode well for the longer term. One is better off accepting things as they are and working within those parameters than disbelieving existence.
Ok. I can do that.
Pete not killing, not stealing, not having sex with animals is not slavery.
There are no choices at all. You live,and then you die. Period.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
And then you find out you go on living, for a long, long time. Just as your conditions during you adult life are determined by the decisions you made in your youth, the decisions in your afterlife are determined by the decisions you made in your fleshly life.
So if I have lustful thoughts or thoughts about murdering/abusing others but I try my best to act good and do good things because I love God will I still enter His Kingdom? *hypothetically speaking, of course :D **but this may apply to others
Basically, yes. If you have lustful thoughts or thoughts about murdering/abusing others, but you're trying your best to act good, that right there indicates, by the fact that you're trying, that you understand that these are evil impulses, and you do not want to follow them. That's a plus mark. God knows the human heart. If you follow those thoughts a bit and then pull back without doing them, you've entertained them a little more, done more evil, but you've stopped short of doing anything disastrous. So you apologize to God and ask his forgiveness. AND - and this is KEY according to Jesus - you are compassionate and forgive other human beings THEIR sins, particularly the ones who have harmed you, because you will be forgiven by God to the extent that you forgive. But suppose you follow the lustful thoughts all the way to their denoument and act on them with someone else. Well, now you've committed a mortal sin. What now? Same thing: stop, admit you've done evil to God, ask his forgiveness, and forgive other people their sins against you. Repent, and forgive all, and you will be forgiven all. Jesus said that's the way it works, so that's the way it works. Just loving God isn't enough. If you sin and you love God but hate other people and refuse to forgive them their sins, especially their sins against you, then God will not forgive you your sin either. God explicitly demands that you forgive other people their sins in order to be forgiven your sins. Unforgiving people who love God are not forgiven their sins. Jesus said just exactly that, so it shouldn't be controversial. It IS controversial, because people want it to be easier than it is.
Thanks. Even though I don't particularly fall victim to extremely lustful or murderous thoughts I thought having certain bad thoughts would make me be seen as evil no matter what I do. I do know that there was a phrase in the Bible that said that whatever we think in our hearts is us, and that we need to think good things inside to become "good" people (or something to the effect).
It is no surprise to me that you agree with Deckard. Your institutional and departmental objectives are largely congruent. The harmony of your agreements are definitely focused on the same outcomes.
I read your comment carefully and I appreciate you taking time to share your concern. I understand your point. I didn’t say I agree with your point, I said I understand it.
#26. To: Gatlin (#0)
#27. To: sneakypete (#14)
Believe me when I say that almost all officers go out of their way to help those in the communities they serve, and when we find one that doesn’t fit this mold, we take care of that problem. They are educated, relieved of duty or arrested.
A flat out LIE!
#28. To: Pinguinite (#25)
Please explain that,
#29. To: Pinguinite (#28)
Like hell you understand it. You don't want to understand my position
…. like police departments investigating their own after a cop kills an innocent, harmless civilian. "We investigated and understand everything, and our man did a good job".
#30. To: GrandIsland (#22)
Who do you think found justice for some of those victims? LE did..
#31. To: Vicomte13 (#26)
If you take a human life intentionally, and it's not in immediate self-defense or as execution for murder of somebody who actually committed the killing (reliance on a corrupt legal system is no excuse if you kill the innocent), you're going to be thrown into the flames at the final judgment.
#32. To: sneakypete (#30)
Hatred blinds you from it.
#33. To: All (#32)
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#34. To: sneakypete (#31)
#35. To: Vicomte13 (#34)
(Edited)
God kills all.
#36. To: Vicomte13 (#34)
No Pete, God is God - creator and destroyer. He knows what he is doing. We are created beings, subject to orders. God kills all. He doesn't permit US to kill anybody. We are not in a position of equality with the creator, and never will be. We either obey and are rewarded for that, or we defy and are punished for it.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#35)
God kills no one.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#35)
God gave us life and doesn't want any of us to perish.
#39. To: sneakypete, All (#37)
Who created the Devil?
#40. To: SOSO (#38)
Did not God condemn Adam and Eve, and hence all mankind, to physical death? HINT: Yes, read Genesis.
#41. To: SOSO (#38)
#42. To: Vicomte13, SOSO (#34)
God kills all.
#43. To: sneakypete (#37)
Who created the Devil?
#44. To: A K A Stone (#43)
God created the Devil and also you. Not much difference.
#45. To: A K A Stone (#42)
#46. To: sneakypete (#37)
#47. To: Vicomte13 (#45)
#48. To: sneakypete (#36)
#49. To: Gatlin (#28)
I believe I am at a total loss to ever explain anything to you. It is just beyond my capability to do so.
I can only surmise from your postings that you have an intense hatred. So that is not something I can help you with, if that is true.
#50. To: A K A Stone (#47)
#51. To: Vicomte13 (#50)
Yes it is, ultimately, because we only die when God withdraws his breath from us, and that HE does, not the Devil. Nobody dies unless God withdraws his breath, and we die when God does that. God literally kills us all. His is the final say, and he does the final act: withdrawal of his breath.
#52. To: Pinguinite, Gatlin (#49)
I believe I am at a total loss to ever explain anything to you. It is just beyond my capability to do so. Perhaps that is indeed the case.
#53. To: sneakypete (#36)
I see. He is the master and we are his slaves who will be tortured for eternity if we piss him off by doing the same things he does.
#54. To: A K A Stone (#52)
Those were both polite disses. :)
#55. To: Pinguinite, A K A Stone (#54)
#56. To: Vicomte13 (#48)
We won't be tortured for all eternity if we obey.
#57. To: sneakypete (#56)
#58. To: A K A Stone (#51)
You would have to back it up with more scripture to convince me.
#59. To: sneakypete (#56)
We won't be tortured for all eternity if we obey. All you have to do is enter voluntary slavery,huh?
#60. To: Vicomte13 (#57)
Those are the two choices.
#61. To: sneakypete (#60)
You live,and then you die.
#62. To: Vicomte13 (#61)
#63. To: ebonytwix (#62)
So if I have lustful thoughts or thoughts about murdering/abusing others but I try my best to act good and do good things because I love God will I still enter His Kingdom?
#64. To: Vicomte13 (#63)
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