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Title: Sorry......Not All Lives Matter
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Published: May 23, 2015
Author: William James Manifold
Post Date: 2015-05-25 19:52:53 by Gatlin
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This insightful and impassioned public commentary was written and posted to Facebook by William James Manifold. It is a powerful commentary that we felt needed to be repeated. Here it is in its entirety with a minor edit: So last night I noticed on my newsfeed, one of my Facebook friends made a statement that really pissed me off. Something along the lines of "Why do people have to hashtag when in mourning that certain lives matter…all lives matter". This comment was obviously in response to the community outpouring of support for Ofc. Kerrie Orozco who ended her watch yesterday afternoon. I wanted to take a moment to respond. First I beg to differ with you. All lives don’t matter. Now there’s a shocking statement, but it deserves repeating. All lives don’t matter…all lives have the potential to matter…but most certainly all lives don’t matter. Allow me to explain: Ofc Kerrie Orozco, now her life mattered. Why, well let me tell you a little about her. First she chose to serve her community, state and country by being a protector, a defender, a part of a thin blue line, a line of individuals past and present that stand between lawlessness and order, between the monsters and the weak, between good and evil. Every morning she pinned her badge on her uniform, or belt and walked out the door not really knowing if she would walk back in.Not only was she a dedicated law enforcement officer. She was a wife and mother. She was a coach to disadvantaged kids in the community which she served. She was a leader; and to quote her Chief “was a Top Notch person”. She made a difference in the lives of those she touched. She worked in a gang infested part of the city, and reached out to the children of that community each and every day to show them that there was a better way of life. In short, she made a difference…her life mattered. The Omaha metropolitan area will sorely miss her presence. A good cop died today. Contrast that to the individual that took her life yesterday. We’ll refer to him as Mr. POS as he doesn’t deserve to have his name mentioned. He was a gang member, drug dealer, convicted felon. His rap sheet included multiple shootings, accessory to murder, and the list goes on and on. He made a choice to be a menace to his community. His only contribution was pain and suffering. In my opinion…he did nothing to make his life matter, he made no difference…his life didn’t matter. His most outstanding contribution to the Omaha Metro area was that he also died yesterday. The original hashtag of “lives matter” came from a group of misguided individuals in Ferguson, MO who believed that law enforcement officers get up every day with the goal of shooting, or harassing, or arresting someone of a particular race. I can tell you that is absolutely false. Every officer I know or knew, worked with, served with all became an officer for one reason…to make a difference, because God knows it wasn’t for the money. Believe me when I say that almost all officers go out of their way to help those in the communities they serve, and when we find one that doesn’t fit this mold, we take care of that problem. They are educated, relieved of duty or arrested. There are so many examples just this year of law enforcement policing their own ranks. The hashtag #BlueLivesMatter was in response to the misguided notion that only people of certain race are being targeted, when in fact today law enforcement officers in every city are being actively targeted. In case you haven’t noticed…there is a war going on in our own streets today…it’s a war on law enforcement and unless YOU want to walk the line between good and evil, maybe YOU should do something to stop that war. Only YOU can make a difference and WE as a community everywhere must take a stand against those who would like to see our law enforcement officers neutered and defenseless. Our officers need to know that they are supported by their community and their leadership. Far too many today are more worried about being sued when they have to make a split second life or death decision that will experience days, weeks, months or years of armchair quarterbacking by the ill-informed. I’ve walked that thin line. I have many members of my family that walk that thin line still today. I have many friends who I call brother or sister that walk that thin line, and many more that have recently left the line. For those I say their lives matter, they made a difference, they did something that mattered, and when one of them dies…guess what, I’ll hashtag the hell out of my mourning because by whatever God you worship or don’t, by all things holy, #BlueLivesMatter. “And maybe remind the few if ill of us they speak, that we are all that stands between the monsters and the weak.” So far this year we have lost 45 lives that mattered, 45 people that served their communities, 45 people that made a difference, 45 brave souls that walked and stood on that thin line, 45 men and women that few will remember. Take a look at this picture; these are 4 of the last 7 officers that died in the line of duty in May protecting you and your family. Take a close look, these 7 are lives that mattered: Pictured in this posting: Not Pictured: Instead of you getting on some high horse thinking that you are being so damned enlightened with your “All Lives Matter” bullshit, you should be getting on your knees thanking each and every one of those people who gave their live so you can sleep at night, so you can walk the street, so you can enjoy the safety that they provide. Will any of them ever ask for your thanks, no. Do they deserve it, you bet they do. If I’ve offended you, I honestly don’t give a shit. You’re an adult, get over it or move on. And honestly, if you get offended that easily and don’t or won’t support our law enforcement officers then I really don’t have the time for you so good riddance. You are part of the problem. So circling back to my original thought, do all lives matter? No, all lives have the potential to matter. It’s up to the individual whether they want to matter or not. Everyone can make a difference; everyone has that opportunity to matter. What have YOU done with your life that matters? To my brothers and sisters still walking the line Omni Cedo Domus…Everyone goes home. You matter. To those that enjoy the blanket of protection they provide, show your support; turn on a blue light at night, thank an officer, attend a Citizens Police Academy, join a neighborhood watch, or just give a kind wave and a smile. You matter. To those that choose to walk on the “other side” of the line, well just keep walking, they’ll get to you eventually…you don’t matter. Ni Baolach Don Olcas Mise…only evil need fear me. May St. Michael keep watch over those still walking the line, and may God keep those who have ended their watch. #BlueLivesMatter #SupportBlue Author: William James Manifold
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#1. To: Gatlin (#0)
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He sounds like Col. Jessup in "A Few Good Men". Only difference, Jessup was a soldier - the pompous, contemptuous, power-tripping POS who wrote this steaming pile of bilge is a cop who thinks that police officers are soldiers.. If I’ve offended you, I honestly don’t give a shit. You’re an adult, get over it or move on. And honestly, if you get offended that easily and don’t or won’t support our law enforcement officers then I really don’t have the time for you so good riddance. You are part of the problem. And this arrogant attitude is why people hate cops - it's their "we are gods", shut up and do what you are told, us versus them mindset. Reading this Nazi-esque treatise it would appear that the only lives that matter to cops any more are their own and the lives of those who worship them.
Rule number 1... go home alive. Rule number 2... remember rule number 1 Even if it makes the cop blockers blood boil. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Yeah - I guess that whole "protect and serve" thing was just too dangerous.
Here is some nice violin music as a appropriate accompaniment for your whining… Let it all out, you poor baby….THEN SUCK IT UP and MAN UP!!!
All lives don't matter. As a subsriber to a modernized form of Bushido, I believe that the lives of the dishonest, the parasites, the thieves, those who believe in entitlement at the expence of others are to be treated with extreme prejudice. The taking of human lives becomes, not prohibited, but a moral obligation.
Notice that her community didn't act like Deckard when a black shoots a white. No riots, looting and ANARCHY.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I listened intently to her interview.
I agree with Deckard that this is a dangerous and inappropriate attitude for police to take. Every day, everyone who leaves home does so without knowing if they will return. Acting like it's true only for cops is, frankly, whining. People die on the job in many different professions all the time. It's part of life. .... and she did so for an agreed upon salary, without which, she would have remained an ordinary citizen like most everyone else. Why is this praise of cops made as though they volunteered to do these jobs solely out of the goodness of their hearts? This essay promotes the idea that cops are a special class of people separate and above that of ordinary people, and that kind of thinking is what creates an attitude of superiority among cops that makes things actually more dangerous for the people they supposedly serve.
A garbage man that falls in the compactor doesn't count. The tree cutting guy that stood to close to falling limbs doesn't count. The plumber that vapor locks while bent over under your sink doesn't count. None of them were killed because of the clothing they wore at work. Officers are being killed simply because they are wearing a uniform, the same zoo animal idiolgy that's been displayed in Ferguson, Baltimore and other inner city urban zoo shitholes... and it's nice to see one of LF very own anarchist that condone such behavior while masking what's really happening behind "life"
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
No - officers are being killed because of the shit they do.
It is no surprise to me that you agree with Deckard. Your institutional and departmental objectives are largely congruent. The harmony of your agreements are definitely focused on the same outcomes. I read your comment carefully and I appreciate you taking time to share your concern. I understand your point. I didn’t say I agree with your point, I said I understand it. There is an insightful story that I never grow tired of. I will share it with you: There was a man who knew about his reputation and he traveled a long distance to test Buddha. When he arrived and stood before Buddha, he verbally abused him constantly; he insulted him; he challenged him; he did everything he could to offend Buddha. Buddha was unmoved, he simply turned to the man and said, “May I ask you a question?” The man responded with, “Well, what?” Buddha said, “If someone offers you a gift and you decline to accept it, to whom then does it belong?” The man said, “Then it belongs to the person who offered it.” Buddha smiled, “That is correct. So if I decline to accept your abuse, does it not then still belong to you?” The man was speechless and walked away. We can’t change the way people act or what they say, but we can control how we react. We do have a choice. If we chose not to accept the negativity, then just don’t accept it. The negativity is then not ours if we don’t take it, I know this is true, because Budda said so.
A flat out LIE! If I’ve offended you, I honestly don’t give a shit. You’re an adult, get over it or move on. And honestly, if you get offended that easily and don’t or won’t support our law enforcement officers then I really don’t have the time for you so good riddance. You are part of the problem. See? He proves it right there himself with his "us versus you" attitude. He reminds me strongly of the local PD Lt that told me "I don't care who dies today as long as it isn't me." At least the local Lt was honest. To my brothers and sisters still walking the line Omni Cedo Domus…Everyone goes home. You matter. And there it is. Screw him and the armored car he rides in on.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Sure thing Buddha Boy, of course. We can all go through life like you with your rose-colored glasses singing "happy happy, joy joy" and "I must not think bad thoughts". Why not? Let's be more like you, oblivious to the evil around us, the encroaching police state, the surveillance mechanism in place watching over every email, phone conversation, text message - all in the guise of keeping us "safe". After all, if you have nothing to hide, then you should have nothing to fear, right comrade? Let's all be cowards and ignore the police abuse, turn a blind eye to a system where cops don't have to be bothered by that pesky Constitution like the rest of us. In fact - they have their own Bill of Rights. You and your repulsive ilk here laugh as kids and people in wheelchairs are molested by pervert TSA screeners - you mock the elderly as they are killed or beaten by police for honking at them, the same police that you and your delusional pals here claim are there to "protect and serve". And when the sadistic thugs lie about shooting an unarmed boy who has Down Syndrome, you say "he deserved it". You defend these badged scum no matter what outrageous offenses they commit against innocent citizens. You cheer as a child is maimed for life by a flash-bang grenade in a wrong house SWAT raid (praise be the war on drugs!) and then blame the child for the criminal actions of the cops. You and your disgusting cohorts applaud the DEA as they steal an innocent man's life savings - why? Because they can. (praise be the war on drugs!) But then again - the sane people here are aware of the realities that surround us, the militarization of police, the new paradigm where cops are considered gods by submissive little cowards like you - where cops break the law and get a paid vacation. We don't cower behind the walls of a gated community uttering how "free" Amerika is. We know it's not a free country anymore and hasn't been for decades. Enjoy your chains - stay asleep with your head in the sand sheep while you sing these songs.
That message seemed clear to me. He,like so many cops,is so out of touch with reality that he can't even understand the message he sends,which is "You need US,but WE don't need you,serf! Back in your cages and OBEY!".
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Careful there,Bubba! You ain't a cop anymore. You are now a peon,just like the rest of us.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
YET. The time is coming,though. The question is "whose side are you going to be on?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Lots of cops earn up to 100K a year,and some get more. It all depends on how many court appearances they have to make. There are patrolmen who refuse promotions because the loss of overtime would cut their pay.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Ever hear of the "knockout game",bubba? Those people aren't hurt of killed because of the clothing they are wearing,they are hurt of killed because of their skin color. In FACT,uniformed police officers are exempt from being participants in this "game" BECAUSE of the uniforms they wear. Uniformed white cops can go into neighborhoods and remain perfectly safe that would almost certainly result in serious injuries or even death to any white male that wandering into one of them that wasn't a cop. Just like they are exempt from speeding tickets,drunk driving tickets,spousal abuse arrests,etc,etc,etc. ALL because of the "clothing they wear". I think you want to be fair,but have led such an insulated life the last 20+ years that you can only see one side of the issue.
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Unlike most of the cop haters, I have zero worry that some are hiding under my bed, or plan to no- knock my residence at 0300 hrs. I'm not worried about being pulled over for a traffic citation. Yes, I'm a civilian... but I still can see the difference between a work place accident and an ambushed officer or an officer that was slain upholding our laws. Hatred blinds you from it.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I've heard about it... and I've seen both white and black victims as well as male and female. People are selected because they are at the wrong place and time for a dysfunctional and dangerous prank. Who do you think found justice for some of those victims? LE did... you know, the group of people that you hate so much that you must glorify the shitbirds.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Yea....why not?
As opposed to being killed for other incidental reasons? You say others who are killed "don't count". Don't count for what? You think they don't have kids and family? Endorcement of this "we're more valuable than plumbers, loggers and garbage men attitude is precicely what leads to endangering the lives of the very cops you claim are so valuable. Cops are killed because they wear a uniform that signifies that they matter more than everyone else. Don't you even get that? You are walking down the same road that has lead to torture, murder and police sanctioned disappearances through history in so many countries world over.
This comment is certainly not in sync with your next: Like hell you understand it. You don't want to understand my position but the above dribble is much like police departments investigating their own after a cop kills an innocent, harmless civilian. "We investigated and understand everything, and our man did a good job". This shouldn't be news to you and GI but it probably is, because you guys just can't consider others actually may not want to harm you. (Something that I guess comes with cops being trained to believe the ridiculous notion that everyone will kill a cop given any opportunity to do so, which is why innocent people get shot to hell because they pull out a cell phone or scratch their face while in the presense of a cop) but never have I ever posted anything that celebrates the killing of any cop. Saying cops die sometimes is nothing more than a fact of life and one you guys need to accept. Tell me this: How does your posting of this article talking about how not all lives matter, insulting people who disagree with the author, jive with your comment about the grand benevolence of Budda in politely refusing to accept ill will from others who choose to harbor it? Please explain that, because you are all over the map on this one.
If you take a human life intentionally, and it's not in immediate self-defense or as execution for murder of somebody who actually committed the killing (reliance on a corrupt legal system is no excuse if you kill the innocent), you're going to be thrown into the flames at the final judgment. So all lives matter, insofar that if you take one, you're going to Hell.
Agreed, it's a lie. Cops celebrate when, in the rare cases they are tried for killing someone, their own are found not guilty. The case that comes to mind is that one in California where cops harrassed, with no cause whatsoever, an innocent homeless man, including intimitading threats of "See these fists, they are going to fuck you up" shortly after he fled out of fear for his life, then beaten and killed. All on video and audio. Jury verdict: Not guilty. (Perhaps due to cops being too close to prosecuters who try them, leading to prosecuters doing a half-assed jobs in prosecuting cops).
I believe I am at a total loss to ever explain anything to you. It is just beyond my capability to do so. I can only surmise from your postings that you have an intense hatred. So that is not something I can help you with, if that is true.
I am taking time to go back and look at your post again and give it more consideration. I thought I understood it. But, then you may be correct and I don’t understand it. You are however wrong when you say that I don’t want to understand. I will parse your post and in doing so, maybe that will help me see what I may be missing. Lets go back and start with this: This is of course a generalization, and no doubt it does sometimes happen. But are you saying this happens all the time, too many times or what….and what do you base your conclusion on?
Please correct me if I'm wrong,but isn't that what we pay them to do?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Then I guess we have nothing to worry about because God is burning in hell at this moment for destroying whole cities and tribes of people. Unless of course he is a hypocrite,and "the commandments are for thee,and not me."
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
I get the feeling he doesn't like that you disagree with what he "THINKS"...
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
All other parts here.
No Pete, God is God - creator and destroyer. He knows what he is doing. We are created beings, subject to orders. God kills all. He doesn't permit US to kill anybody. We are not in a position of equality with the creator, and never will be. We either obey and are rewarded for that, or we defy and are punished for it. The commandments are for men, not for God.
No. God kills no one. The devil is the one who came to KILL destroy and lie. God gave us life and doesn't want any of us to perish. The wages of sin are death. Which the sinner earned and brought on them self.
I see. He is the master and we are his slaves who will be tortured for eternity if we piss him off by doing the same things he does. Ok,now I see why you love him so much. (/S)
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
The devil is the one who came to KILL destroy and lie. Who created the Devil?
Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)
Did not God condemn Adam and Eve, and hence all mankind, to physical death? HINT: Yes, read Genesis.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
You are not supposed to ask THAT question.
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
If I had some poison out. Then I told you not to eat of it or you would surely die. Did I condemn you to death?
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestInstead of you getting on some high horse thinking that you are being so damned enlightened with your “All Lives Matter” bullshit, you should be getting on your knees thanking each and every one of those people who gave their live so you can sleep at night, so you can walk the street, so you can enjoy the safety that they provide. Will any of them ever ask for your thanks, no. Do they deserve it, you bet they do.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#2. To: Gatlin (#0)
(Edited)
To my brothers and sisters still walking the line Omni Cedo Domus…Everyone goes home. You matter.
#3. To: GrandIsland (#2)
Rule number 1... go home alive.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#4. To: Deckard GrandIsland (#3)
#5. To: All (#4)
#6. To: Gatlin (#0)
(Edited)
Not All Lives Matter
#7. To: All (#5)
#8. To: Gatlin (#7)
#9. To: GrandIsland (#8)
She sounded like a nice compassionate person, no doubt she was.
I would have been proud to call the Detective a friend.
#10. To: Gatlin (#0)
Every morning she pinned her badge on her uniform, or belt and walked out the door not really knowing if she would walk back in.
First she chose to serve her community, state and country by being a protector, a defender, a part of a thin blue line, a line of individuals past and present that stand between lawlessness and order, between the monsters and the weak, between good and evil.
#11. To: Pinguinite (#10)
Every day, everyone who leaves home does so without knowing if they will return. Acting like it's true only for cops is, frankly, whining. People die on the job in many different professions all the time. It's part of life.
#12. To: GrandIsland (#11)
Officers are being killed simply because they are wearing a uniform,
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#13. To: Pinguinite, Deckard, GrandIsland (#10)
(Edited)
I agree with Deckard that this is a dangerous and inappropriate attitude for police to take.
Buddha was well known for his ability to respond to evil with good.
#14. To: Gatlin (#0)
Believe me when I say that almost all officers go out of their way to help those in the communities they serve, and when we find one that doesn’t fit this mold, we take care of that problem. They are educated, relieved of duty or arrested.
#15. To: Gatlin, Pinguinite, GrandIsland (#13)
(Edited)
If we chose not to accept the negativity, then just don’t accept it.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#16. To: Deckard (#1)
Reading this Nazi-esque treatise it would appear that the only lives that matter to cops any more are their own and the lives of those who worship them.
#17. To: GrandIsland (#2)
#18. To: GrandIsland (#8)
Notice that her community didn't act like Deckard when a black shoots a white. No riots,looting and Anarchy.
#19. To: Pinguinite (#10)
.... and she did so for an agreed upon salary, without which, she would have remained an ordinary citizen like most everyone else. Why is this praise of cops made as though they volunteered to do these jobs solely out of the goodness of their hearts?
#20. To: GrandIsland (#11)
#21. To: sneakypete (#17)
Careful there,Bubba! You ain't a cop anymore. You are now a peon,just like the rest of us.
#22. To: sneakypete (#20)
Those people aren't hurt of killed because of the clothing they are wearing,they are hurt of killed because of their skin color.
#23. To: Deckard (#15)
Why not?
#24. To: GrandIsland (#11)
A garbage man that falls in the compactor doesn't count. The tree cutting guy that stood to close to falling limbs doesn't count. The plumber that vapor locks while bent over under your sink doesn't count. None of them were killed because of the clothing they wore at work. Officers are being killed simply because they are wearing a uniform,
#25. To: Gatlin (#13)
It is no surprise to me that you agree with Deckard. Your institutional and departmental objectives are largely congruent. The harmony of your agreements are definitely focused on the same outcomes.
I read your comment carefully and I appreciate you taking time to share your concern. I understand your point. I didn’t say I agree with your point, I said I understand it.
#26. To: Gatlin (#0)
#27. To: sneakypete (#14)
Believe me when I say that almost all officers go out of their way to help those in the communities they serve, and when we find one that doesn’t fit this mold, we take care of that problem. They are educated, relieved of duty or arrested.
A flat out LIE!
#28. To: Pinguinite (#25)
Please explain that,
#29. To: Pinguinite (#28)
Like hell you understand it. You don't want to understand my position
…. like police departments investigating their own after a cop kills an innocent, harmless civilian. "We investigated and understand everything, and our man did a good job".
#30. To: GrandIsland (#22)
Who do you think found justice for some of those victims? LE did..
#31. To: Vicomte13 (#26)
If you take a human life intentionally, and it's not in immediate self-defense or as execution for murder of somebody who actually committed the killing (reliance on a corrupt legal system is no excuse if you kill the innocent), you're going to be thrown into the flames at the final judgment.
#32. To: sneakypete (#30)
Hatred blinds you from it.
#33. To: All (#32)
(Edited)
#34. To: sneakypete (#31)
#35. To: Vicomte13 (#34)
(Edited)
God kills all.
#36. To: Vicomte13 (#34)
No Pete, God is God - creator and destroyer. He knows what he is doing. We are created beings, subject to orders. God kills all. He doesn't permit US to kill anybody. We are not in a position of equality with the creator, and never will be. We either obey and are rewarded for that, or we defy and are punished for it.
#37. To: A K A Stone (#35)
God kills no one.
#38. To: A K A Stone (#35)
God gave us life and doesn't want any of us to perish.
#39. To: sneakypete, All (#37)
Who created the Devil?
#40. To: SOSO (#38)
Did not God condemn Adam and Eve, and hence all mankind, to physical death? HINT: Yes, read Genesis.
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