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Title: Whites moving to Detroit, city that epitomized white flight
Source: Billings Gazette
URL Source: http://billingsgazette.com/news/nat ... 0c-56f4-bd8a-989aa3ab480b.html
Published: May 21, 2015
Author: COREY WILLIAMS
Post Date: 2015-05-21 12:54:25 by Willie Green
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Views: 4215
Comments: 16

DETROIT (AP) — Whites are moving back to the American city that came to epitomize white flight, even as blacks continue to leave for the suburbs and the city's overall population shrinks.

Detroit is the latest major city to see an influx of whites who may not find the suburbs as alluring as their parents and grandparents did in the last half of the 20th century. Unlike New York, San Francisco and many other cities that have seen the demographic shift, though, it is cheap housing and incentive programs that are partly fueling the regrowth of the Motor City's white population.

"For any individual who wants to build a company or contribute to the city, Detroit is the perfect place to be," said Bruce Katz, co-director of the Global Cities Initiative at the Washington-based Brookings Institution. "You can come to Detroit and you can really make a difference."

No other city may be as synonymous as Detroit with white flight, the exodus of whites from large cities that began in the middle of the last century. Detroit went from a thriving hub of industry with a population of 1.8 million in 1950 to a city of roughly 690,000 in 2013 that recently went through the largest municipal bankruptcy in U.S. history. In that time, the city's population went from nearly 84 percent white to a little less than 13 percent white.

In the three years after the 2010 U.S. Census, though, Detroit's white population grew from just under 76,000 residents to more than 88,000, according to a census estimate. The latest annual census was released Thursday and estimates that Detroit lost about 10,000 more residents in 2014, but it doesn't include a racial breakdown.

Simple math convinced music producer Mike Seger to move from adjacent Oakland County into a rented two-story house on Detroit's east side that also houses his Get Fresh Studio. Seger, 27, pays $750 per month in rent, and said he wouldn't have been able to find anything comparable in the suburbs for that price. The average monthly rental rate of a three-bedroom single-family home in Detroit is about $800, as opposed to $1,100 to $1,400 in the suburbs, according to RentRange.com, which collects rental market information.

"A young person can move here with $10,000 and start up a small flex space for artists or artists' studios," Seger said. "It's the uprising of the youth being able to have the opportunities to make a future for themselves."

Eugene Gualtieri, a 41-year-old lab technician at the Detroit Medical Center, took advantage of an incentive program. Live Midtown, offered by his employer and several others in the Midtown neighborhood, allowed him to take out a $20,000 home loan that he won't have to repay if he stays in his condo for five years. The program is aimed at getting workers to live closer to their jobs, which can benefit employers and employees.

"The condo is eight minutes from work ... super close, nice neighborhood and really reasonably priced," Gualtieri said. "Like any part of any city, I'm sure there are good parts and bad parts. You just make sure you don't end up in the areas you are not supposed to be in."

Live Downtown is a similar incentive program offered by employers located in downtown Detroit, which is home to General Motors, Quicken Loans and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan. Three professional sports teams and stadiums, three casinos, restaurants and bars are entertainment anchors.

Blacks appear to be weary of waiting for Detroit to turn things around and have been migrating to nearby suburbs in search of comfort, better schools and lower crime.

The city's black population was nearly 776,000 in 1990. By 2013 it had dipped to an estimated 554,000.

Elizabeth St. Clair, 27, and her family may count themselves among black former Detroiters.

St. Clair and her boyfriend are searching for rental homes in Detroit and several inner-ring suburbs. She has two school-aged children.

She acknowledges things are getting better — pointing out Detroit's current campaign to tear down vacant houses and eradicate blight. But the high cost of car insurance, underperforming schools and the condition of many neighborhoods are obstacles.

"As I see a resurgence of Detroit, I really want to stay here," St. Clair said. "I feel there are two Detroits. There's a Detroit where you are able to go downtown and enjoy, and then in our neighborhoods there's not much change."

Susan Mosey, who heads the nonprofit planning and development group Midtown Detroit Inc., said about 1,150 people have participated in the Live Midtown program, 38 percent of whom are white and 38 percent of whom are black. She said it's great to see whites moving back to Detroit, but the city needs to attract more people and stop others from leaving.

"The reality is this town is not diverse enough," Mosey said of Detroit as a whole. "We need new immigrants and more whites to move in. We lost so many of the middle-class African-Americans during the recession. We need good numbers of all people to come back."


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
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Deckard  posted on  2015-05-21   12:57:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Willie Green (#0)

Latinos are also frequently "White" in the statistics. The Census taker marked me down as "Hispanic", because now the definition, for census purposes, includes anybody whose origins go back to the Iberian Peninsula...making Basques "Hispanic", and "White".

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-21   13:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Willie Green (#0)

Sounds like an urban gentrification around the city center.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-21   13:08:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Willie Green (#0)

"A young person can move here with $10,000 and ..."

"... by nightfall be stabbed and penniless."

misterwhite  posted on  2015-05-21   14:41:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Willie Green (#0) (Edited)

Thanks for posting this.

Every 10 years or so, there is all of this propaganda about how Detroit is making a comeback. It never happens.

Thanks to Governor Rick Snyder who was the first Michigan governor who had the cajones to tackle Detroit's problems and force the city through bankruptcy, this time may be different.

There is still a LONG, LONG way to go. But it's the first time in a long time where things actually do seem to be generally pointed in the right direction for the city.

cranko  posted on  2015-05-21   16:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: cranko, Willie Green (#5)

There is still a LONG, LONG way to go. But it's the first time in a long time where things actually do seem to be generally pointed in the right direction for the city.

Fear not, the Democrats and leftist liberals will f*ck it up.....over and over and over again.

потому что Бог хочет это тот путь

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-21   16:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Vicomte13 (#2) (Edited)

Latinos are also frequently "White" in the statistics.

Arabs are classified as "white" by the U.S. government as well.

In the city of Detroit, most of the small businesses are owned by Arabs, who have been in the Detroit area for decades.

But I think there is a small, but real "white" migration into the city. It's mostly artsy types who are attracted by dirt cheap rents and a growing like minded community. The same thing happened in East Berlin after the Wall fell -- young artists moved to the eastern part of the city to take advantage of cheap rents. They renovated the dilapidated east, making it the cool part of Berlin.

ditto with the Seattle area. Tacoma used to be a crime-ridden city, but the younger artsy types started moving in during the 1990's to take advantage of cheap rents and large parts of Tacoma are pretty nice today.

We can only hope that this is what is actually going on in Detroit.

cranko  posted on  2015-05-21   16:32:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: cranko (#7)

They're probably well-ARMED artists, if they're moving into Detroit.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-21   16:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SOSO (#6)

Fear not, the Democrats and leftist liberals will f*ck it up.....over and over and over again.

If they can make money doing it you know they will.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-21   18:00:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Vicomte13 (#8)

They're probably well-ARMED artists, if they're moving into Detroit.

They are naive kids with their own goals.

I am an enormous Detroit skeptic. I never believed the propaganda during the 80's, 90's and 00's that Detroit was coming back, just because Mike Ilitch renovated an old building.

But, something really is different this time.

So, we'll see.

cranko  posted on  2015-05-21   18:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: cranko (#7)

It's mostly artsy types who are attracted by dirt cheap rents and a growing like minded community. The same thing happened in East Berlin after the Wall fell -- young artists moved to the eastern part of the city to take advantage of cheap rents.

All the credit belongs to Tyree Guyton, not Rick Snyder.

Some people march to a different drummer - and some people POLKA.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-21   18:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green (#11) (Edited)

Tyree Guyton is a good guy. He is a big part of Detroit's future.

But he didn't have the power to straighten Detroit's finances out.

Given how screwed up Detroit is, only the governor of Michigan had the power to do a complete reset - a reset that was objected to by the so-called "leaders" of the city and their union buddies.

Synder was the only governor in Michigan's history with the BALLS to tackle the problem. And he did.

Rick Synder is the real hero here -- he helped make it reasonable for white people to even consider moving into Detroit once again.

As the article YOU posted pointed out -- white people moving INTO Detroit is a BIG DEAL.

cranko  posted on  2015-05-21   19:05:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: cranko (#12)

I wish Michigan had the revolutionary vision to take it further. The state should revoke Detroit's charter and END Detroit. End it. Wipe it out of existence. Divide the territory into functional blocks and let fallow land revert to Wayne County.

As long as the corrupt structures of city government are in place, with authority to police, make laws and collect taxes, the place will be Zimbabwe. To save the land under Detroit and the people who live on it, the political corporation that is "Detroit" must be dissolved and cease to exist. You can't REFORM the Ottoman Empire, you have to END it and start anew.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-21   19:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Vicomte13 (#13)

The state should revoke Detroit's charter and END Detroit. End it. Wipe it out of existence. Divide the territory into functional blocks and let fallow land revert to Wayne County.

As you may know, there were proposals in the Michigan legislature to do that -- cede the area that was Detroit to Wayne County and then let smaller units petition to incorporate into cities over time.

Two or three years ago, I argued the exact same thing.

It still might be the right long term answer.

But right now, the city of Detroit has a fresh start. I'm a skeptical, but we'll see what happens.

Certainly, if this fresh start doesn't work, then Detroit will have to be disbanded as you suggest. There won't be any alternatives left.

cranko  posted on  2015-05-21   19:21:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: cranko (#7)

Tacoma used to be a crime-ridden city, but the younger artsy types started moving in during the 1990'

Half of Tacoma has always been nice. The basic dividing line is sixth ave, with north of that being a nice crime free place, and almost the entire west side being affluent. There is still a lot of old money, beautiful homes surrounding the outer perimeter of the peninsula it sits on.

I live here now, and I grew up here in sixties, early seventies, was a wonderful place to grow up.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-21   20:27:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green (#0)

Whites are moving back to the American city that came to epitomize white flight, even as blacks continue to leave for the suburbs and the city's overall population shrinks.

Uh, isn't the above an example of white flight?

kenh  posted on  2015-05-21   23:19:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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