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Title: The GOP Is Dying Off. Literally.
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Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st ... 8035.html?hp=t2_r#.VVnQK_lVhHx
Published: May 17, 2015
Author: DANIEL J. MCGRAW
Post Date: 2015-05-18 07:50:21 by Jameson
Keywords: Old Angry, White, Guys
Views: 28006
Comments: 128
It turns out that one of the Grand Old Party’s biggest—and least discussed—challenges going into 2016 is lying in plain sight, written right into the party’s own nickname. The Republican Party voter is old—and getting older, and as the adage goes, there are two certainties in life: Death and taxes. Right now, both are enemies of the GOP and they might want to worry more about the former than the latter. There’s been much written about how millennials are becoming a reliable voting bloc for Democrats, but there’s been much less attention paid to one of the biggest get-out-the-vote challenges for the Republican Party heading into the next presidential election: Hundreds of thousands of their traditional core supporters won’t be able to turn out to vote at all. The party’s core is dying off by the day. Read more: www.politico.com/magazine...118035.html#ixzz3aURTGXqk
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#49. To: rlk (#34)
It all started with good ol' Abe Lincoln, too. Of course.
That's half the fun of being here making fun of the... “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
One look at that and I want to fire 8 .22 shots in quick succession.
I gotta say, I'm disgusted by how many closet liberals post here. Aren't you a cop? Living off a socialist paycheck?
You won't find one non socialist country were the police and military aren't funded by some kind of tax. Is that your best argument to defend hating capitalism? You are a joke.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
That's a waste of perfectly good ammunition, ridicule is better and you never, ever run out. :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I really hate possums. Even more, porcupines and skunks and badgers and coons. I'll put up with a few rabbits and squirrels.
I can't stand squirrels cause they will get into the attic and make a big mess and smell. When I was a kid we used to have a possum that would come up onto the back patio and eat out of the cats dish while the cats were there, they didn't seem to care.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Almost got sprayed by a skunk one night that had gotten into my garage when I was stationed in the U.P. of Michigan. The wife said she thought she had heard an animal in the garage and so I went to investigate, figured it was one of the neighbors cats. So went out and raised the garage door and looked around with the flashlight. At first I didn't see anything until I looked right at my feet and there he was, so I just stood still until he finally decided to leave. The neighbor down the street had dogs and he would let them go running skunks at night. When you don't have A/C and have to leave the windows open you tend to get very pissed off when stuff like that happens. You would go out in the morning and even the interior of the car still stunk from the night before.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Don't know if you have armadillos where you live. They can do some real damage. Pic below is not mine but once had the same problem with armadillos when living in southern OK some time back. Interesting that I have not seen armadillos in our residential area since living in Central Texas this go around (not even dead on the side of the highway). But out in the Fort Hood training area they are all over the place. Remember as a 2LT at night running over one with my track. Went back with night vision googles to make sure I did not run over someone's leg.
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
Good grief. I can imagine the stink from those mutts. I'd think his wife would raise total hell over having such stinky hounds on the property.
Nope. They're just an armored possum so my first thought would be to kill 'em before they breed.
Rodents deserve lead poisoning... injected 165 grains at a time.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I don't ever remember seeing one other than when we would go quail hunting, would have to watch so you wouldn't step into a hole. I remember one morning I was headed to Lake Ivie and it was still fairly dark out. Was cruising along about 65 or so when I seen this dark spot in the road, then it grew a big pair of eyeballs. Didn't have time to hit the brakes so just kept going, it was big enough that it make a heck of a racket hitting all 3 axels as I went over it. On the way home that night slowed down to see what I had hit but didn't see anything other than a blood spot on the road. Whatever it was managed to crawl away or something else found it and carried it off.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
He used to keep them outside year round so doubt if he really cared, he was kinda odd if you know what I mean. Truthfully I don't think I ever seen his wife even though he only lived 4 houses down on the other side of the street. He eventually got kicked out of base housing because of his dogs, everybody was raising hell about them to the Housing Office and SP.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Then you make exceptions for some people and not others. You are anti science. By your own words you must think that baby killing is a sport protected by the government.
Baby killing must be a sport for you. Because there is no one sending any cases to any juries. So what fantasy are you talking about here?
I can't believe you agree with this guy.
He probably just couldn't figure out why. LOL Some guys just don't get it.
Is that your best argument to defend hating capitalism? I point out your hypocrisy. You live off the socialism you hate. And by the way, that is not socialism where we have publically funded projects. But for stupid Americans it is close enough. Even during WW2 the economy was not socialist because ownership remained in private hands.
Funding military, LE and highway by taxes isn't socialistic at all... and just because I support that doesn't mean your love for socialism doesn't ring true.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Ding...ding....ding....We have a winner!!!!
потому что Бог хочет это тот путь
Yeah I hit an armadillo too or should I say one hit my car. Late night at work two weeks from going on OIF 1, driving home to rural OK. No one on the country road but me when I hear (and feel) a thud hit my rear tire. I then see something curl up like a rollie pollie and roll to the side of the road, pop back up and moves on. Stop the car and the hub spokes snapped in two pieces. The critter survived that:)
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
You sound like a filthy commie
Animals are tough, a lot tougher than us. I once hit a buzzard with the truck it left a blood streak and feathers all up the hood and windshield. Last thing I seen was it flying away and disappear into a stand of trees about a mile away. I would have to assume it died (maybe) but that was a hard hit and to watch it fly that far is amazing. In England you had to watch for pheasants, they would fly parallel to the road behind the hedges outlining the fields. When they would find an opening in the hedges they would dart across the road into the next field, sometimes right into your windshield. Here that's no big deal because we have safety glass over there at that time they didn't. Don't know how many cars I see with the windshield busted out and a dead pheasant inside the car. I was lucky I hit 3 or 4 but only at glancing blows or I managed to brake somewhat and lessen the impact so never lost a windshield. One of the funniest/scariest moments in a car was also in England. Me the wife and oldest daughter were going to RAF Feltwell to the furniture store to shop for a new bedroom suit. Just as we got to the top of this one hill a British Tornado fighter/bomber flew right over the roof of the car about 30' up and about 350-400 knots or so. (I actually felt the car start to come off the ground)!! Well needless to say I locked up the brakes, the wife ended up in the back seat screaming "What the hell was that" and the daughter was still asleep in her car seat. LOL.... I looked out the window just in time to see him disappear into the trees in the valley behind me, and I'd bet he was laughing his ass off. Those Brits were daring when it came to flying but you have to remember over there the overcast gets so low you have to fly at 100' or less to see anything and they practice flying that low all the time. On the other hand the deck for our pilots was 500', at least over land.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Those Brits were daring when it came to flying but you have to remember over there the overcast gets so low you have to fly at 100' or less to see anything and they practice flying that low all the time. On the other hand the deck for our pilots was 500', at least over land. LOL great story.
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
Armadillo: possum on the half shell.
Like the commie Founders? To the Founders, law enforcement was a state matter but provision is made in the Constitution for provision of a common defense and authority for interstate bridge/road construction. In practice, that was mostly (literally) interstate, where bridges crossed a state border along a river on a major trade/postal road.
Am I to rely on you to keep the peace, defend our borders... or fix my roads? If so, you're doing a shitty job. You've made no arrests, 30 million illegals are here AND... I still see potholes in the road. You are fired.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
You all know full well that for the Republican base - anything the govt does with tax dollars is communist and socialist.
Unless authorized explicitly by the Constitution. Then we have to tone down the Red-baiting catcalls. It's kind of annoying.
LOL. WTF do you think Penny Pritzker [Secretary of Commerce] was representing when her Chicago Family owned Superior bank went kapudt from its innovations in subprime ACORN farming? "There's only one Party in DC - the fundraiser" -- I don't remember who said that but it's right on target.
It would probably require a revolt to obtain one. In theory, upon the application of ¾ths of the state legislatures, the Federal Congress shall call a Convention. In practice, what could the States do if the Federal Congress slow walks the issue into the next millenium?
As phrased, the amendment might accomplish nothing. Abortion as interpreted by Roe depends on competing interests of the State and the individual at various stages of development, and whether the fetus is viable. For the purpose you appear to desire, an amendment may be preferred holding that a fetus, from conception, is a person under the 14th Amendment. (If the Union Pacific RR Corp can do it, why not a fetus?) You might want to change the citizenship clause to confer citizenship at conception. This raises a few other issues:
Yes, the rape victim must carry the baby. She cannot murder the child. No, she cannot be compelled to provide child support out of the gate. She has the right to give up the child to the state for orphanage or adoption, if she does so at once. However, if she keeps the child, she loses this right. Long-term optionality does not remain. The mother must bear the child, but she either keeps the newborn or hands it over for adoption. In this way, the child is affected least. Of course the abolition of abortion means that there will have to be a larger and more effective social safety net, because without abortion there would be 1.5 million more kids in the country every year, and probably 1,3 million of them would be poor.
You might want to change the citizenship clause to confer citizenship at conception. Can the mother, impregnated and forced to give birth against her will, be held responsible for the child or to pay child support? ---- nolu chan No, she cannot be compelled to provide child support out of the gate. She has the right to give up the child to the state for orphanage or adoption, if she does so at once. However, if she keeps the child, she loses this right. Long-term optionality does not remain. The mother must bear the child, but she either keeps the newborn or hands it over for adoption. In this way, the child is affected least. Of course the abolition of abortion means that there will have to be a larger and more effective social safety net, because without abortion there would be 1.5 million more kids in the country every year, and probably 1,3 million of them would be poor. Vicomte13 A better question is: --- Can the impregnated woman be forced to give birth against her will, under the present constitution? -- And would an amendment giving that power to government be valid?
Nobody can be forced to do anything against their will other than die. Most people prefer to obey laws rather than be imprisoned or shot. So yes, most women can be forced to not murder the baby in their womb, because they fear the punishment if they do more than they want to get rid of the baby. Those who care more about killing the baby will do so, and then should be prosecuted as killers. If they want to avoid that, they can flee the country to somewhere without extradition and not come back.
Would that work as a defense against a rape charge?
As currently interpreted under Roe, even a voluntarily impregnated woman cannot be forced to continue the pregnancy against her will. The court found a constitutional right to an abortion emanating from an uncertain penumbra. I do not see why not. There is no such thing as a legal challenge to the validity of a constitutional provision. SCOTUS could not rule a part of the Constitution invalid. Once the Secretary of State certifies an amendment as having been ratified, the amendment and the process by which it was ratified is beyond judicial review. An amendment saying booze was unconstitutional was valid. Enough people chose to ignore that amendment that it was not enforceable. An anti-abortion amendment would not end abortion. Neither Democrats nor Republicans will touch upon proposing a constitutional amendment. Do nothing, feel good legislation is fair game.
No, she cannot be compelled to provide child support out of the gate. She has the right to give up the child to the state for orphanage or adoption, if she does so at once. However, if she keeps the child, she loses this right. Long-term optionality does not remain. The mother must bear the child, but she either keeps the newborn or hands it over for adoption. In this way, the child is affected least. I believe this is truly the only possible moral position consistent with the religious belief that all life is sacred and life begins at conception. The real elephant in the room is the health and welfare of the mother exception. Who gets to decide what is necessary for said health and welfare? Even in a case where continuing the pregnancy would result in the death of both mother and child, or endanger the life of the mother, someone must make the determination if an exception to the abortion ban is to be permitted. Is it her doctor, or does she need a permission slip from a government doctor or committee? It might spawn a burgeoning business in selling permission slips. Giving it to government control would require a nation-wide network of government physicians. All decisions, including appeals, would need to be resolved quickly. This exception is a great moral dilemma that seems particularly ill-suited to any legal solution. When a law is adopted against the will of a significant portion of the people, many will choose to disregard the law. It can generate general disregard for the law and the government that made the law, whether the law be excessive taxation, 55 MPH maximum speed, alcohol prohibition, marijuana prohibition, or abortion prohibition.
A better question is: --- Can the impregnated woman be forced to give birth against her will, under the present constitution? -- No, the court opined that a woman has the same rights against involuntary servitude as a man. Call it a penumba if you must. And would an amendment giving that power to government be valid? Not true. The prohibition amendment was so challenged, and the SCOTUS refused to make an opinion on the issue. It remains unresolved.. No, the issue was unresolved. True. We agree, again.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest The GOP was reafflicted with a terminal disease after Reagan left office.
The Bushs and their ilk reinfected it.
#50. To: TooConservative (#4)
#51. To: CZ82 (#50)
#52. To: GrandIsland, Vicomte13, TooConservative (#46)
crony capitalists This is code for... I'm damn near a socialist.
#53. To: Pericles (#52)
Aren't you a cop? Living off a socialist paycheck?
#54. To: TooConservative (#51)
#55. To: CZ82 (#54)
#56. To: TooConservative (#55)
#57. To: TooConservative (#55)
#58. To: TooConservative, CZ82 (#55)
I really hate possums. Even more, porcupines and skunks and badgers and coons. I'll put up with a few rabbits and squirrels.
#59. To: CZ82 (#57)
The neighbor down the street had dogs and he would let them go running skunks at night.
#60. To: redleghunter (#58)
Don't know if you have armadillos where you live.
#61. To: TooConservative (#60)
Nope. They're just an armored possum so my first thought would be to kill 'em before they breed.
#62. To: redleghunter (#58)
Interesting that I have not seen armadillos in our residential area since living in Central Texas this go around (not even dead on the side of the highway).
#63. To: TooConservative (#59)
#64. To: tpaine (#38)
No, I don't think rape should be legal. Those who commit it, burglary or murder, should be tried by a jury.
#65. To: tpaine (#38)
Juries are empowered to decide when murder has been committed. It's the American/constitutional way, and let's leave it that way..
#66. To: tpaine (#38)
#67. To: CZ82 (#63)
He eventually got kicked out of base housing because of his dogs, everybody was raising hell about them to the Housing Office and SP.
#68. To: GrandIsland (#53)
You won't find one non socialist country were the police and military aren't funded by some kind of tax.
#69. To: Pericles (#68)
#70. To: TooConservative (#6)
It's mostly a problem because Republican voters, unlike Democrats, stop voting after they're dead.
#71. To: CZ82 (#62)
#72. To: GrandIsland (#69)
Funding military, LE and highway by taxes isn't socialistic at all... and just because I support that doesn't mean your love for socialism doesn't ring true.
#73. To: redleghunter (#71)
#74. To: CZ82 (#73)
One of the funniest/scariest moments in a car was also in England. Me the wife and oldest daughter were going to RAF Feltwell to the furniture store to shop for a new bedroom suit. Just as we got to the top of this one hill a British Tornado fighter/bomber flew right over the roof of the car about 30' up and about 350-400 knots or so. (I actually felt the car start to come off the ground)!! Well needless to say I locked up the brakes, the wife ended up in the back seat screaming "What the hell was that" and the daughter was still asleep in her car seat. LOL.... I looked out the window just in time to see him disappear into the trees in the valley behind me, and I'd bet he was laughing his ass off.
#75. To: TooConservative (#60)
They're just an armored possum
#76. To: Gatlin, Deckard, Pericles, GrandIsland (#72)
You sound like a filthy commie
#77. To: Pericles (#72)
You sound like a filthy commie
#78. To: TooConservative, Gatlin, Deckard, GrandIsland (#76)
#79. To: Pericles (#78)
You all know full well that for the Republican base - anything the govt does with tax dollars is communist and socialist.
#80. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
The GOP represents crony capitalists.
#81. To: Jameson, Vicomte13 (#12)
[Jameson #12] What are your thoughts on a constitutional convention?
#82. To: Vicomte13, Jameson (#14)
[Vicomte13] A constitutional amendment that stated that life began at conception and (therefore) banned abortion outright would be good.
#83. To: nolu chan (#82)
#84. To: Vicomte13, nolu chan, Y'ALL (#83)
For the purpose you appear to desire, an amendment may be preferred holding that a fetus, from conception, is a person under the 14th Amendment.
#85. To: tpaine (#84)
#86. To: Vicomte13, tpaine (#85)
Nobody can be forced to do anything against their will other than die.
#87. To: tpaine, Vicomte13 (#84)
A better question is: --- Can the impregnated woman be forced to give birth against her will, under the present constitution? --
And would an amendment giving that power to government be valid?
#88. To: Vicomte13 (#83)
Yes, the rape victim must carry the baby. She cannot murder the child.
#89. To: nolu chan (#87)
As currently interpreted under Roe, even a voluntarily impregnated woman cannot be forced to continue the pregnancy against her will. The court found a constitutional right to an abortion emanating from an uncertain penumbra.
Ido not see why not. There is no such thing as a legal challenge to the validity of a constitutional provision. SCOTUS could not rule a part of the Constitution invalid. Once the Secretary of State certifies an amendment as having been ratified, the amendment and the process by which it was ratified is beyond judicial review.
An amendment saying booze was unconstitutional was valid.
Enough people chose to ignore that amendment that it was not enforceable.
An anti-abortion amendment would not end abortion. Neither Democrats nor Republicans will touch upon proposing a constitutional amendment. Do nothing, feel good legislation is fair game.
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