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Title: The GOP Is Dying Off. Literally.
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URL Source: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st ... 8035.html?hp=t2_r#.VVnQK_lVhHx
Published: May 17, 2015
Author: DANIEL J. MCGRAW
Post Date: 2015-05-18 07:50:21 by Jameson
Keywords: Old Angry, White, Guys
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It turns out that one of the Grand Old Party’s biggest—and least discussed—challenges going into 2016 is lying in plain sight, written right into the party’s own nickname. The Republican Party voter is old—and getting older, and as the adage goes, there are two certainties in life: Death and taxes. Right now, both are enemies of the GOP and they might want to worry more about the former than the latter. There’s been much written about how millennials are becoming a reliable voting bloc for Democrats, but there’s been much less attention paid to one of the biggest get-out-the-vote challenges for the Republican Party heading into the next presidential election: Hundreds of thousands of their traditional core supporters won’t be able to turn out to vote at all. The party’s core is dying off by the day. Read more: www.politico.com/magazine...118035.html#ixzz3aURTGXqk
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#26. To: Vicomte13, redleghunter (#21)
Don't make me laugh. The Vatican could get nuked and Europe would yawn. Or cheer. You could close every Catholic church in Europe and there'd be little excitement. The US is going the same direction. Catholics who are functional Protestants. I would insist we have already reached that point. We are well beyond "reservations of conscience" and have a very large plurality of "Catholics" who defy the pope and their bishops and refute the Church's entire body of doctrine at will. We see it with abortion and sodomy marriage the most clearly. Neither would be possible with the complicity of Blue state Catholics (people like you and your neighbors). I have a pretty good idea of who you are worshiping with. Mexico and the South American countries are increasingly moving in the same direction. Africa will remain as Catholicism's last heartland but it will likely lose to Islam there (or fight to a draw), just as Rome has been utterly defeated (again) in the Mideast. And the prospects of China allowing Catholicism to bloom (and with considerable potential) seem dismal, both now and well into the future. This pope is a historic calamity for Rome. Not that I mind. I would say he is a harbinger of Rome's final collapse as a real power and an authority. So spare me the chorus of The Church, Militant and Triumphant.
Ok, so I guess, if you agree with the author's analysis, the decline of the gop is a good thing? If you can not cure gangrene, you cut it out or burn it out, in other words what is beyond curing is killed. I believe, after the most recent elections, that the poison in the gop has gotten to the point where it can no longer be healed.
No, such an amendment would be bad, since it would attempt to give govt the power to issue and enforce a religious decree. Juries are empowered to decide when murder has been committed. It's the American/constitutional way, and let's leave it that way..
You guys are liberal Catholics. This is me, all shocked and stuff. The old tags of the current American political system apply to me. I find no identification with any political party in the USA. In Europe I would be easily identified as a Christian democrat.
I will agree with from the individual, family, church and local community level. After that greed is compounded. As you know, I have been on both sides of the Tiber. The best support for the poor is through local help and then outside the local community missionary volunteers. I still have some of my grand uncle's writings on his efforts at poverty relief. He traveled the world as a Catholic priest and at every turn he eventually hit the "Vatican wall." Meaning, a priest with a following of lay people to address poverty, also living humbly were crushed by church government. This is not a hit only on the Catholic church. It is any church that gets big and the church government takes on a life of its own. It happens in many denominations as we see corrupt non-denomination churches and Protestent churches have money scandals as well. The main critique I have of Catholic charties you state as a strength. Somewhere in the 60s, people like my uncle (who was not a communist nor a socialist politically) was inched aside and the humanist-socialists took root in the Catholic church. Focus was on getting government to do the work of Christians. The gospel became secondary so as not to offend others, and thus government became the 'god' of the poor. This empowered secular government and was a way to get votes (at least in this country and in Europe). The ideal of Christian love for the poor as the disciples practiced in the NT turned into the Catholic church and many other denominations becoming just another layer of social workers for the government. These Christian charities then took government grants to run their Christian charities and then later and now secular government started calling the shots on their 'morality'. Last year in IL a Catholic adoption service closed down because the state government demanded the Catholic service allow homosexual parents adopt the children under their care. They refused based on church teachings and had to close their doors. Same is coming for homosexual employees in such facilities and ministries. We should use the model of the early Christians in the NT. They provided for their church members from their own income and properties. Peter and Paul did not go to Caesar and the Roman senate to care for the poor of their church. Caesar and the Roman senate had every right given to secular authorities to care for the poor of the empire, as governments do today. We as Christians should not appeal to Caesar to take care of our own. When we outreach to those outside the church to bring the gospel for the soul and physical needs to the poor, we should not entangle ourselves with secular government. In the end they take over the operation and preach a different gospel which is not Christ's.
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
You're hung up on party labels, and you've missed my point entirely. The republican party (or any party in 21st century America) is made up of people - and the PEOPLE who make it up are only interested in gaining power and/or making money. Beyond that, they have no core beliefs. In that regards they are EXACTLY the same as democrats, socialists or libertarians. Can you point out ANY political system where the burden of the cost of government is not borne by the so-called poor or working class? Did Stalin pay anything out of pocket? Castro? Mao? There is a law - as certain as the law of gravity - called "supply and demand". That law crosses all political systems and stripes. One leg of the "social safety net" is health care and yes, it IS expensive. And making it "free" will only make it "scarce". Ask yourself - if you were a doctor and the govenment was willing to pay you 15/hr for your services, how long would you be a doctor? You've just shot your own argument full of holes. Who is joining your evil republicans in "free" trade and open borders? Last time I checked, it was Zero. And as far as open borders and cheap labor - don't you think democrats salivate over the thought of millions of new democrat voters as much as gop'ers want cheap labor for their Chamber of Commerce masters? Yes, the GOP is dying (or already dead). But their core constituency will STILL have the illusion of being serviced - by the right wing branch of the ruling party (whatever label it ends up with). Just as left wing branch will have the illusion of ITS needs being addressed by the left wing branch. Meanwhile - the ruling class will continue to inhabit its plush offices and enjoy all the trappings of power. It will continue to exploit ALL of the rest of us and it will continue to pass laws that IT will not live under. That's what it's REALLy all about.
It will take place at every opportunity. Both parties will cheat if at all possible. Some are just better at doing it than others. Such was perfected by the Daily clan in Chicago.
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
Don't be a moron. It would stop murders. Anyone favoring abortion should be strung up. Enforcing burglary is enforcing a religious decree. Enforcing rape is enforcing a religious decree. So according to your anything goes philosophy at least if you're consistent and you are not. You think rape should be legal because God said it was a sin. You are wacked in the head. Did you get run over by a semi as a kid?
The GOP was reafflicted with a terminal disease after Reagan left office. The Bushs and their ilk reinfected it.
I have a pretty good idea of who you are worshiping with. Mexico and the South American countries are increasingly moving in the same direction. Africa will remain as Catholicism's last heartland but it will likely lose to Islam there (or fight to a draw), just as Rome has been utterly defeated (again) in the Mideast. And the prospects of China allowing Catholicism to bloom (and with considerable potential) seem dismal, both now and well into the future. Some stats a poster at another site compiled. He links most of them. Between 2000 and 2004, the net gain (the number of new churches minus the closed churches) in the number of evangelical churches was 5,452, but mainline and Catholic churches closed more than they started for a net loss of 2,200, while a net gain of 13,024 churches was necessary to keep up with the U.S. population growth. At those rates, by 2050, the percentage of the U.S. population attending church will be almost half of what it was in 1990. http://www.churchleaders.com/pastors/pastor-articles/139575-7-startling-facts- an-up-close-look-at-church-attendance-in-america.html In numbers (not percentage), Catholicism, which lists 68.1 million in the US, has experienced “the greatest net loss” of any major religious group. members. The 'had it' Catholics,” National Catholic Reporter ,Oct. 11, 2001, based on reports from the 2008 Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life survey and the National Council of Churches’ 2010 Yearbook of American and Canadian Churches. 68% of those raised Roman Catholic still are Catholic (higher than the retention rates of individual Protestant denoms, but less than Jews at 76%). 15% are now Protestant (9% evangelical); 14% are unaffiliated. Pew forum, Faith in Flux (April 27, 2009) http://pewforum.org/uploadedfiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/fullreport.pdf 80% of adults who were raised Protestant are still Protestant, but (analysis shows) 25% no longer self-identify with the Protestant denomination in which they were raised. ^ 44 percent of Americans have switched religious affiliations since childhood, mostly mainline Protestants. 7% who were raised Protestant are now unaffiliated; 15% now belong to a different Protestant faith. ^ 51% of Protestants from a different Protestant denomination cite a lack of spiritual fulfillment as a reason for leaving their childhood faith. 85% say they joined their current denominational faith because they enjoy the services and style of worship. Only 15% left say they left because they stopped believing in its teachings. ^ Those who have left Catholicism outnumber those who have joined the Catholic Church by nearly a four-to-one margin. 10.1% have left the Catholic Church after having been raised Catholic, while only 2.6% of adults have become Catholic after having been raised in a different faith.^ 4% of Americans raised Catholic are now unaffiliated; 5% are now Protestant. ^ Over 75% of those who left Catholicism attended Mass at least once a week as children, versus 86% having done so who remain Catholics today.^ Regarding reasons for leaving Catholicism, less than 30% of former Catholics agreed that the clergy sexual abuse scandal played a role in their departure. ^ 71% of converts from Catholicism to Protestant faith said that their spiritual needs were not being met in Catholicism, with 78% of Evangelical Protestants in particular concurring, versus 43% of those now unaffiliated. ^ Only 23% (20% now evangelical) of all Protestants converts from Catholicism said they were unhappy about Catholicism's teachings on abortion/homosexuality (versus 46% of those now unaffiliated); 23% also expressed disagreement with teaching on divorce/remarriage; 16% (12% now evangelical) were dissatisfied with teachings on birth control, 70% said they found a religion the liked more in Protestantism. 55% of evangelical converts from Catholicism cited dissatisfaction with Catholic teachings about the Bible was a reason for leaving Catholicism, with 46% saying the Catholic Church did not view the Bible literally enough. 81% of all Protestant converts from Catholicism said they enjoyed the service and worship of Protestant faith as a reason for joining a Protestant denomination, with 62% of all Protestants and 74% Evangelicals also saying that they felt God's call to do so. ^ 42% of those now unaffiliated stated they do not believe in God, or most religious teaching. ^ 54% of “millennial generation” Catholics (born in 1982 or later) are Hispanics, while 39% are non-Hispanic whites. On the other hand, 76% of “pre-Vatican II generation” Catholics (born 1943 or earlier) are non-Hispanic whites, while 15% are Hispanics. Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate (CARA) at Georgetown University, September, 2010 . http://www.osv.com/tabid/7621/itemid/6850/Openers-More-evidence-of-the-browning- of-US-Cat.aspx 68% of all Latinos in the U.S. identify as Catholics. Changing Faiths: Latinos and the Transformation of American Religion http://pewforum.org/Changing-Faiths- Latinos-and-the-Transformation-of-American-Religion.aspx Baylor Institute for Studies of Religion - American Piety in the 21 Century – 9-2006 http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/33304.pdf Among Catholics under the age of 30, 47% are white, and 45% are Latino. In contrast, among Catholics over the age of 65, 82% are white (Pew Forum 2007, reported in http://publicreligion.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Catholics- and-LGBT-Issues-Survey-Report.pdf) Latinos comprised 32 percent of all U.S. Catholics in 2008, versus to 20 percent in 1990. However, Catholic identification has slipped from 66 percent in 1990 to 60 percent in 2008. There has also been a significant rise in the number of Latinos who do not adhere to a religion. The longer a Latino has lived in the United States, the less likely he or she is to be Catholic. Study of Secularism in Society and Culture at Trinity College, http://theamericano.com/2010/03/18/new-report-on-u-s-latino-religious- identification/ 18% of all Latinos say they have either converted from one religion to another or to no religion at all. http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/75.4.pdf 1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic Church every day between 2000 and 2010, a decline that has continued uninterrupted over the past 60 years, from 98.21 of the population to 83.9 percent today. Latin American Herald Tribune, March 10, 2011, based upon census data and study by sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte of Colegio de Mexico and the National Autonomous University of Mexico The percentage of of Protestants and Evangelicals rose from 1.28% in 1950 to close to 8% of the total population in 2010, (excluding so-called Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormons). 5.2 million say they profess no religion. ^ This decline is seen as extending across the region (Catholics represent between 55% to 73% in Central America, 70% in Brazil, 50% in Cuba and Uruguay).^ Brazil’s National Statistics Institute reported that the number of evangelical Christians in Brazil (the world’s largest Catholic country) has risen from 15% of the population in 2000 to to 22% of the population in 2010, and 4% 40 years ago, while the proportion of Catholic Brazilians fell from 93.% of Brazilians 40 years ago, and 74% of the population in 2000 to to 65% in 2010. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/06/29/ratio-of-evangelicals-in-brazil-jumps- 44-in-10-years/ Almost 20% of all Latino American Catholics have left the Roman Catholicism, with 23 percent of second-generation Latino Americans doing so. http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/33304.pdf 54% of Hispanic Catholics describe themselves as charismatic Christians. http://pewhispanic.org/reports/report.php?ReportID=75 51% of Hispanic Evangelicals are converts, and 43% are former Catholics. ^ 82% of Hispanics cite the desire for a more direct, personal experience with God as the main reason for adopting a new faith. Among those who have become evangelicals, 90% say it was a spiritual search for a more direct, personal experience with God was the main reason that drove their conversion. Negative views of Catholicism do not appear to be a major reason for their conversion. ^ Latino evangelicals are more than 20 percentage points more likely than Catholics to say that abortion should be illegal in most or all circumstances. http://www.nhclc.org/news/latino-religion-us-demographic-shifts-and-trend The first generation of Latino immigrants is 74 percent Catholic, and 15 percent Protestant. The second generation is 72 percent Catholic, and 20 percent Protestant. The third generation is 62 percent Catholic, and 29 percent Protestant. ^ According to the Census Bureau, the Latino population in the United States grew from 22.4 million in 1990 to 41.3 million in 2004, adding a staggering 18.9 million people in 10 years. Broader estimates, which include Puerto Rican islanders (4 million) and undocumented immigrants (5 million), put the U.S. Latino population at over 50 million. ^ In 2003, Latinos surpassed African-Americans as the largest minority group in the United States. Latinos now represent about 14 percent of the U.S. population. This growth is a result of both immigration and high domestic birth rates. About 53 percent of all immigrants to the United States come from Latin America. Mexicans and Mexican-Americans make up 58 percent of all foreign born Latin-American immigrants. More here: http://www.peacebyjesus.com/RC-Stats_vs._Evang.html#DEMOGRAPHICS
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
Or, was it President Reagan who planted the seeds...?
"we are tartets from evil doers!!!" [ and ] U looked up birfer on the dcitionary. It isn't a movie.
No.
No, such an amendment would be bad, since it would attempt to give govt the power to issue and enforce a religious decree. Juries are empowered to decide when murder has been committed. It's the American/constitutional way, and let's leave it that way.. Women won't stop aborting unless you try to jail them all. I don't favor it, -- or the hanging of women who do. No, I don't think rape should be legal. Those who commit it, burglary or murder, should be tried by a jury. -- That's our constitutional way..
Fine. You're honest about it.
I recall reading a bio piece and interview of an old Catholic poverty worker some time back. A few of those folks are still with us but they are a dying breed unfortunately. Now we have the Sharpton element. So we should ask Sheldon Adelson? How about the Koch brothers or Warren Buffet? You begin to move back on grounds that Vic argues well. And there is a fundamental problem with division of wealth. The dispute is how to alleviate that problem and tip the balance back toward the middle class without a politically controlled spoils system of direct government wealth transfer.
Anyone favoring abortion should be strung up. If you're going to have an environment encouraging catch as catch can free sex, you're going to need abortion to deal with the consequences and you are also going to develop an extensive population with a calloused attitude that doesn't care. People, including babies, become disposable.
The emergency contraception "morning after pill" is already reducing abortion rates and is likely to continue. Some people consider this a chemical abortion as it makes a womb extremely unfriendly to any fertilized egg trying to attach itself. Much as the regular Pill dosage does but on steroids (literally). So a woman who isn't even on the Pill or has sex without a condom still has a very good chance of escaping pregnancy if she takes action the first thing on the morning after. And this is available at any pharmacy, pretty much no questions asked. Morning After is changing the abortion scene and will continue to do so.
My point was a secular government can address poverty if their duly elected representatives choose to do so. The church should not rely on government to take care of its needy. That is the responsibility of the church.
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
1,000 Mexicans left the Catholic Church every day between 2000 and 2010, a decline that has continued uninterrupted over the past 60 years, from 98.21 of the population to 83.9 percent today. Latin American Herald Tribune, March 10, 2011, based upon census data and study by sociologist and historian Roberto Blancarte of Colegio de Mexico and the National Autonomous University of Mexico Nice stat assembly. A picture emerges quite contrary to that which Vic has nursed fondly for years of how the Catholic immigrant vote is going to win the battle for pro-life, revitalize American Catholicism and finally dispatch those pesky Calvinists to the dustbin of history. In truth, Catholicism is contracting with no signs of recovery and particularly so among the Hispanic cohort in which Vic placed such high hopes in his posts over the years at LP. And the apostate American Catholics infected the Latin Catholics with their liberalism and disobedience to Rome, exporting their apostate lifestyle as "Catholics" to Latin and South America, furthering the rot within Rome's domains around the world.
The numbers also show 'established' Protestant denominations contracting as well. It seems large established churches are losing members who really go to church to worship and fellowship with other believers.
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
This is code for... I'm damn near a socialist. I gotta say, I'm disgusted by how many closet liberals post here.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
You are from the Northeast. Surely you had some clue that these creatures exist by the millions in that part of the country. : )
I really didn't think a political blog sight like LP or LF would we so infested. What kills me is their denial.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
It all started with good ol' Abe Lincoln, too. Of course.
That's half the fun of being here making fun of the... “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
One look at that and I want to fire 8 .22 shots in quick succession.
I gotta say, I'm disgusted by how many closet liberals post here. Aren't you a cop? Living off a socialist paycheck?
You won't find one non socialist country were the police and military aren't funded by some kind of tax. Is that your best argument to defend hating capitalism? You are a joke.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
That's a waste of perfectly good ammunition, ridicule is better and you never, ever run out. :)
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
I really hate possums. Even more, porcupines and skunks and badgers and coons. I'll put up with a few rabbits and squirrels.
I can't stand squirrels cause they will get into the attic and make a big mess and smell. When I was a kid we used to have a possum that would come up onto the back patio and eat out of the cats dish while the cats were there, they didn't seem to care.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Almost got sprayed by a skunk one night that had gotten into my garage when I was stationed in the U.P. of Michigan. The wife said she thought she had heard an animal in the garage and so I went to investigate, figured it was one of the neighbors cats. So went out and raised the garage door and looked around with the flashlight. At first I didn't see anything until I looked right at my feet and there he was, so I just stood still until he finally decided to leave. The neighbor down the street had dogs and he would let them go running skunks at night. When you don't have A/C and have to leave the windows open you tend to get very pissed off when stuff like that happens. You would go out in the morning and even the interior of the car still stunk from the night before.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Don't know if you have armadillos where you live. They can do some real damage. Pic below is not mine but once had the same problem with armadillos when living in southern OK some time back. Interesting that I have not seen armadillos in our residential area since living in Central Texas this go around (not even dead on the side of the highway). But out in the Fort Hood training area they are all over the place. Remember as a 2LT at night running over one with my track. Went back with night vision googles to make sure I did not run over someone's leg.
“Come to Me, all who are weary and heavy-laden, and I will give you rest.” (Matthew 11:28)
Good grief. I can imagine the stink from those mutts. I'd think his wife would raise total hell over having such stinky hounds on the property.
Nope. They're just an armored possum so my first thought would be to kill 'em before they breed.
Rodents deserve lead poisoning... injected 165 grains at a time.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
I don't ever remember seeing one other than when we would go quail hunting, would have to watch so you wouldn't step into a hole. I remember one morning I was headed to Lake Ivie and it was still fairly dark out. Was cruising along about 65 or so when I seen this dark spot in the road, then it grew a big pair of eyeballs. Didn't have time to hit the brakes so just kept going, it was big enough that it make a heck of a racket hitting all 3 axels as I went over it. On the way home that night slowed down to see what I had hit but didn't see anything other than a blood spot on the road. Whatever it was managed to crawl away or something else found it and carried it off.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
He used to keep them outside year round so doubt if he really cared, he was kinda odd if you know what I mean. Truthfully I don't think I ever seen his wife even though he only lived 4 houses down on the other side of the street. He eventually got kicked out of base housing because of his dogs, everybody was raising hell about them to the Housing Office and SP.
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”
Then you make exceptions for some people and not others. You are anti science. By your own words you must think that baby killing is a sport protected by the government.
Baby killing must be a sport for you. Because there is no one sending any cases to any juries. So what fantasy are you talking about here?
I can't believe you agree with this guy.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestAnd they don't change to suit the locals. They breed and take over.
#27. To: Jameson (#9)
The gop is made up of lying scum serving the god of the party of the democrat.
#28. To: Vicomte13 (#14)
A constitutional amendment that stated that life began at conception and (therefore) banned abortion outright would be good.
#29. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#16)
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He is probably returning to his roots as a Catholic European style Christian democrat (big C, small D). I have made that journey as well - as I have mentioned many times over.
#30. To: Vicomte13, TooConservative, GarySpFc, liberator (#13)
That is best done, Catholics believe, on the individual level, the family level, the church level, the community level, the state level, the national level and the international level. ALL levels of human governance and organization should ALL be engaged in poverty relief, all the time. That is the primary role of human economics, according to Catholics.
#31. To: Vicomte13 (#17)
THESE are the CORE beliefs of the Republican Party - the non-negotiable terms of their political engagement:
(1) All taxes on capital gains, dividends, estates or corporations are evil. The tax burden for the country should be borne by the middle class and working class.
(2) The social safety net is expensive, and should be privatized so as to allow the profits from its operation to flow into private hands. To the extent it cannot be privatized, it should be abolished.
(3) Free trade and the unguarded borders are good, because they provide a steady source of cheap exploitable labor, driving the cost of labor relentlessly downward.
Those three things are not negotiable. Republicans will lie, prevaricate and shift around, but they'll always come down on the side of their core constituency.
Take off your party blinders for a moment and admit to yourself - it's ALL about core constituencies.
#32. To: Jameson (#22)
If it is possible for vote fraud to take place.
#33. To: tpaine (#28)
No, such an amendment would be bad, since it would attempt to give govt the power to issue and enforce a religious decree.
#34. To: Jameson (#0)
The GOP Is Dying Off.
#35. To: TooConservative, Vicomte13 (#26)
The US is going the same direction. Catholics who are functional Protestants. I would insist we have already reached that point. We are well beyond "reservations of conscience" and have a very large plurality of "Catholics" who defy the pope and their bishops and refute the Church's entire body of doctrine at will. We see it with abortion and sodomy marriage the most clearly. Neither would be possible with the complicity of Blue state Catholics (people like you and your neighbors).
#36. To: rlk (#34)
The GOP was reafflicted with a terminal disease after Reagan left office. The Bushs and their ilk reinfected it.
#37. To: Jameson (#36)
was it President Reagan who planted the seeds...?
#38. To: A K A Stone (#33)
Vicomte13 (#14) --- A constitutional amendment that stated that life began at conception and (therefore) banned abortion outright would be good.
AKA Stone ---- It would stop murders.
Anyone favoring abortion should be strung up.
Enforcing burglary is enforcing a religious decree. --- Enforcing rape is enforcing a religious decree. --- So according to your anything goes philosophy at least if you're consistent and you are not. You think rape should be legal because God said it was a sin. -- You are wacked in the head. Did you get run over by a semi as a kid?
#39. To: Pericles (#29)
The old tags of the current American political system apply to me.
#40. To: redleghunter (#30)
Somewhere in the 60s, people like my uncle (who was not a communist nor a socialist politically) was inched aside and the humanist-socialists took root in the Catholic church.
We should use the model of the early Christians in the NT. They provided for their church members from their own income and properties. Peter and Paul did not go to Caesar and the Roman senate to care for the poor of their church. Caesar and the Roman senate had every right given to secular authorities to care for the poor of the empire, as governments do today. We as Christians should not appeal to Caesar to take care of our own.
#41. To: tpaine (#38)
Women won't stop aborting unless you try to jail them all.
#42. To: rlk (#41)
If you're going to have an environment encouraging catch as catch can free sex, you're going to need abortion to deal with the consequences and you are also going to develop an extensive population with a calloused attitude that doesn't care. People, including babies, become disposable.
#43. To: TooConservative (#40)
So we should ask Sheldon Adelson? How about the Koch brothers or Warren Buffet?
#44. To: redleghunter, Vicomte13 (#35)
18% of all Latinos say they have either converted from one religion to another or to no religion at all. http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/75.4.pdf
#45. To: TooConservative (#44)
In truth, Catholicism is contracting with no signs of recovery and particularly so among the Hispanic cohort in which Vic placed such high hopes in his posts over the years at LP.
#46. To: Vicomte13 (#2)
crony capitalists
#47. To: GrandIsland (#46)
I gotta say, I'm disgusted by how many closet liberals post here.
#48. To: TooConservative (#47)
#49. To: rlk (#34)
The GOP was reafflicted with a terminal disease after Reagan left office.
The Bushs and their ilk reinfected it.
#50. To: TooConservative (#4)
#51. To: CZ82 (#50)
#52. To: GrandIsland, Vicomte13, TooConservative (#46)
crony capitalists This is code for... I'm damn near a socialist.
#53. To: Pericles (#52)
Aren't you a cop? Living off a socialist paycheck?
#54. To: TooConservative (#51)
#55. To: CZ82 (#54)
#56. To: TooConservative (#55)
#57. To: TooConservative (#55)
#58. To: TooConservative, CZ82 (#55)
I really hate possums. Even more, porcupines and skunks and badgers and coons. I'll put up with a few rabbits and squirrels.
#59. To: CZ82 (#57)
The neighbor down the street had dogs and he would let them go running skunks at night.
#60. To: redleghunter (#58)
Don't know if you have armadillos where you live.
#61. To: TooConservative (#60)
Nope. They're just an armored possum so my first thought would be to kill 'em before they breed.
#62. To: redleghunter (#58)
Interesting that I have not seen armadillos in our residential area since living in Central Texas this go around (not even dead on the side of the highway).
#63. To: TooConservative (#59)
#64. To: tpaine (#38)
No, I don't think rape should be legal. Those who commit it, burglary or murder, should be tried by a jury.
#65. To: tpaine (#38)
Juries are empowered to decide when murder has been committed. It's the American/constitutional way, and let's leave it that way..
#66. To: tpaine (#38)
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