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Title: The GOP Is Dying Off. Literally.
Source: Politico
URL Source: http://www.politico.com/magazine/st ... 8035.html?hp=t2_r#.VVnQK_lVhHx
Published: May 17, 2015
Author: DANIEL J. MCGRAW
Post Date: 2015-05-18 07:50:21 by Jameson
Keywords: Old Angry, White, Guys
Views: 27052
Comments: 128

It turns out that one of the Grand Old Party’s biggest—and least discussed—challenges going into 2016 is lying in plain sight, written right into the party’s own nickname.

The Republican Party voter is old—and getting older, and as the adage goes, there are two certainties in life: Death and taxes. Right now, both are enemies of the GOP and they might want to worry more about the former than the latter.

There’s been much written about how millennials are becoming a reliable voting bloc for Democrats, but there’s been much less attention paid to one of the biggest get-out-the-vote challenges for the Republican Party heading into the next presidential election: Hundreds of thousands of their traditional core supporters won’t be able to turn out to vote at all. The party’s core is dying off by the day.

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#2. To: Jameson (#0)

The GOP represents crony capitalists. That's its core. Those are the people who always get everything that want out of the GOP.

To get the votes and the seats to advance that agenda, the GOP has in contemporary times made allies with militarists and pro-life Christians, gun nuts and other so-called "conservative" causes.

The problem, though, is that crony capitalists in general are liberal rich people, so they WANT abortion rights, and gun control, and open borders, and they want government contracts but not full-on wars to victory that require tax hikes.

And, because the Republicans always do the bidding of the crony capitalists, who are really liberal on social issues, the result has been that the systematic betrayal of the Christian pro-lifers, the Borderbots, the gun nuts and the soldiery. Republicans only fight to the death for one thing: low taxes on the rich (and contracts for cronies). Everything else is negotiable.

Net result? The crony capitalists are intensely loyal to the GOP base, but others have left, stayed home, given up.

And it isn't as though Mexicans, or young people, or really, anybody, is flocking into the GOP.

It's time for a new party. Crony capitalism has a death grip on the Republican Party that cannot be, and will never be, pried loose.

People have two choices: form a new party, or satisfy themselves with Democrat rule.

I'm not satisfied with Democrat rule. I want to see a third party. But Republican rule is godawful and old people are stubborn. So we're going to get Hillary.

Oh well.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-18   8:13:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Vicomte13 (#2)

I'm not satisfied with Democrat rule. I want to see a third party.

Until the asteroid hits (either literally or figuratively), I don't see a viable third party forming.

Instead what I believe will happen is the gop branch of the ruling class WILL die off (actually it's been dead since at least the '08 election, it just doesn't know it yet). And before anyone brings up the '10 and '14 mid-terms and the seeming gop resurgence, remember that was a result of people voting AGAINST Zero's rule and not FOR the gop.) No one knows WHERE the gop stands on anything, and in a general election you can't beat something with nothing.

So what happens after the gop goes the way of Packard, Studebaker, Plymouth and Oldsmobile?

Politics dictate that there be two parties, so two parties there shall be. The ruling class will still be made up of two so-called parties - one will be slightly to the "right" of the other. Believe it or not, the pols like Zero, McConnell, Boehner and Reid will inhabit the "right-wing" party; while the Liz Warrens, the Rand Pauls, the Bernie Sanders and O'Malleys will reside in the "left-wing" branch.

And opportunists like the Xlintons will go wherever the wind blows.

What will these parties be called? Well, the right wing branch could keep the name democrat, while the lefties - now that Socialism is mainstream - might just go with that as a moniker.

Then we'll be all set.

Until the asteroid hits . . .

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-05-18   9:38:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rufus T Firefly (#11)

No one knows WHERE the gop stands on anything

I do.

THESE are the CORE beliefs of the Republican Party - the non-negotiable terms of their political engagement:

(1) All taxes on capital gains, dividends, estates or corporations are evil. The tax burden for the country should be borne by the middle class and working class.

(2) The social safety net is expensive, and should be privatized so as to allow the profits from its operation to flow into private hands. To the extent it cannot be privatized, it should be abolished.

(3) Free trade and the unguarded borders are good, because they provide a steady source of cheap exploitable labor, driving the cost of labor relentlessly downward.

Those three things are not negotiable. Republicans will lie, prevaricate and shift around, but they'll always come down on the side of their core constituency.

Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-18   10:48:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: Vicomte13 (#17)

THESE are the CORE beliefs of the Republican Party - the non-negotiable terms of their political engagement:

(1) All taxes on capital gains, dividends, estates or corporations are evil. The tax burden for the country should be borne by the middle class and working class.

You're hung up on party labels, and you've missed my point entirely. The republican party (or any party in 21st century America) is made up of people - and the PEOPLE who make it up are only interested in gaining power and/or making money. Beyond that, they have no core beliefs. In that regards they are EXACTLY the same as democrats, socialists or libertarians.

Can you point out ANY political system where the burden of the cost of government is not borne by the so-called poor or working class? Did Stalin pay anything out of pocket? Castro? Mao?

(2) The social safety net is expensive, and should be privatized so as to allow the profits from its operation to flow into private hands. To the extent it cannot be privatized, it should be abolished.

There is a law - as certain as the law of gravity - called "supply and demand". That law crosses all political systems and stripes.

One leg of the "social safety net" is health care and yes, it IS expensive. And making it "free" will only make it "scarce". Ask yourself - if you were a doctor and the govenment was willing to pay you 15/hr for your services, how long would you be a doctor?

(3) Free trade and the unguarded borders are good, because they provide a steady source of cheap exploitable labor, driving the cost of labor relentlessly downward.

You've just shot your own argument full of holes. Who is joining your evil republicans in "free" trade and open borders? Last time I checked, it was Zero.

And as far as open borders and cheap labor - don't you think democrats salivate over the thought of millions of new democrat voters as much as gop'ers want cheap labor for their Chamber of Commerce masters?

Those three things are not negotiable. Republicans will lie, prevaricate and shift around, but they'll always come down on the side of their core constituency.
Take off your party blinders for a moment and admit to yourself - it's ALL about core constituencies.

Yes, the GOP is dying (or already dead). But their core constituency will STILL have the illusion of being serviced - by the right wing branch of the ruling party (whatever label it ends up with).

Just as left wing branch will have the illusion of ITS needs being addressed by the left wing branch.

Meanwhile - the ruling class will continue to inhabit its plush offices and enjoy all the trappings of power. It will continue to exploit ALL of the rest of us and it will continue to pass laws that IT will not live under.

That's what it's REALLy all about.

Rufus T Firefly  posted on  2015-05-18 11:42:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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