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Title: Ted Cruz Is the World’s Most Condescending Elitist
Source: New York Magazine
URL Source: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence ... ivies-harvard-law-elitist.html
Published: Sep 23, 2014
Author: Dan Amira
Post Date: 2015-05-18 02:00:53 by GeorgiaConservative
Keywords: cruz, elitist, ivyleague
Views: 3395
Comments: 24

What Cruz doesn't mention is the next step in his father's American Dream: raising a son who would attend the very best schools in America and look down upon everyone else with a nauseating, unthinkable smugness. GQ reports:

The elite academic circles that Cruz was now traveling in began to rub off. As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn't been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz's law-school roommates: "He said he didn't want anybody from 'minor Ivies' like Penn or Brown."

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#4. To: GeorgiaConservative (#0)

The elite academic circles that Cruz was now traveling in began to rub off. As a law student at Harvard, he refused to study with anyone who hadn't been an undergrad at Harvard, Princeton, or Yale. Says Damon Watson, one of Cruz's law-school roommates: "He said he didn't want anybody from 'minor Ivies' like Penn or Brown."

The whole point of Harvard Law is elitism. And Harvard and Princeton and Yale are the most rigorous programs for law students with the most influential instructors.

I don't blame Cruz. This is how he ended up being praised by Tribe and Dershowitz (for his top legal ability though they hate his politics) and it is how he grabbed the brass ring of clerking for Chief Justice Rehnquist, another mark of his top legal scholarship. He actually was something of an expert on Rehnquist's legal philosophy and tendencies. At this level of legal studies, they study the Supremes, past and present, as much as they do the law itself.

It's an odd criticism to make of Cruz. The whole point of Princeton and Yale and Harvard is elitism. The minor Ivies are wannabes by comparison and you find this sort of thing written routinely in elitist circles.

What's next, criticizing Cruz for not taking time to tutor nighttime law school students at some city college? The horror.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-18   7:43:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative, GeorgiaConservative (#4)

It's an odd criticism to make of Cruz. The whole point of Princeton and Yale and Harvard is elitism. The minor Ivies are wannabes by comparison and you find this sort of thing written routinely in elitist circles

I think the critique is that he is in a long line of conservatives like Bill O'Reilly who criticize the "elite" institutions they went to sometimes act like they never were alumnists.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-18   8:45:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Pericles (#6)

I think the critique is that he is in a long line of conservatives like Bill O'Reilly who criticize the "elite" institutions they went to sometimes act like they never were alumnists.

O'Reilly is a lamer compared to Cruz.

Cruz is creme-de-la-creme type. He was a smart kid and worked very hard to get there. He knew better than to associate with those who settled for good-enough or the second-tier.

I don't mind the elite types if they earned what they got and don't get arrogant about it. My main criticism on Cruz is that he still seems weak as a general election candidate outside of Texas. He doesn't seem to have the broad kind of appeal and he makes rash remarks from time to time. Impolitic. And there was that shameless and despicable grandstanding at that historic event where all the persecuted churches of the Mideast came together in America and Cruz showed up and told them to go to hell if they didn't put Israel at the top of their list of concerns. I know you recall it.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-18   10:26:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: TooConservative (#11)

I feel Cruz is a grifter - like a demogogue.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-18   11:25:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Pericles (#13)

I feel Cruz is a grifter - like a demogogue.

I see why you say that. Certainly, his outburst at the persecuted Mideastern church leaders was opportunist as he shortly after got a private interview with Sheldon Adelson. I saw Cruz as giving a shameless audition for Adelson and his repulsive cronies.

Overall, I'm not sure that episode alone gives us a complete picture. For a brilliant jurist, he seems to make elementary mistakes about the extent to which any Senate freshman can budge the entrenched party interests in the Senate. They don't just turn on a dime because some freshman insists on it. Too many oxes in the process of being gored, too many interests opposing any change, let alone any reductions, etc. By comparison, Rand Paul has been just as radical at times but doesn't just offend everyone in the Senate and then fall on his face.

Cruz is better suited to be on the Court, not in the Senate or White House. And, given his age, 30-40 years on the Court may be a more powerful position than a 4 or 8 year presidency. And the Court deals directly with Cruz's first love, the Constitution.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-18   13:24:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: TooConservative (#16)

I see why you say that. Certainly, his outburst at the persecuted Mideastern church leaders was opportunist as he shortly after got a private interview with Sheldon Adelson. I saw Cruz as giving a shameless audition for Adelson and his repulsive cronies.

Overall, I'm not sure that episode alone gives us a complete picture.

I am also adding in there his Senate filibuster stunt - or was it stunts? I in no way imply Cruz is not brilliant - he probably is the smartest guy in the room - and being smart may mean he is highly ambitious.

The other episode is him announcing he is running for president at Oral Roberts university (or some such) and hiding the fact he is a Harvard grad. That is kind of Bill Clinton tricky.

I do see Cruz like the Bill Clinton of his party - remember when Clinton cried for the cameras and then switched it off when he thought he was out of range. I kind of see Cruz being like that.

Again, I maybe too cynical in that regard

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-18   13:48:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Pericles (#17) (Edited)

I in no way imply Cruz is not brilliant - he probably is the smartest guy in the room - and being smart may mean he is highly ambitious.

Keep in mind, he is the smartest guy in the room, especially in the Senate which has a lot of failed lawyers that would never have qualified for Cruz's study group at Harvard either. And they know it.

So the dislike of Cruz may have an element of jealousy.

OTOH, Cruz needs to become more of a legislative eagle than a legal eagle. Robert Byrd and Lyndon Johnson never dominated the Senate by lecturing the Senate on constitutional law. Politics is politics and the law is the law and they are not the same. Cruz certainly knows this, the puzzle is how he has failed so regularly at political performance. And politics is a performance art, not an intellectual exercise in the way that the law is.

I do see Cruz like the Bill Clinton of his party - remember when Clinton cried for the cameras and then switched it off when he thought he was out of range. I kind of see Cruz being like that.

Cruz doesn't have Xlinton's raw acting talent or shamelessness.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-18   14:07:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: TooConservative (#18)

OTOH, Cruz needs to become more of a legislative eagle than a legal eagle. Robert Byrd and Lyndon Johnson never dominated the Senate by lecturing the Senate on constitutional law. Politics is politics and the law is the law and they are not the same. Cruz certainly knows this, the puzzle is how he has failed so regularly at political performance. And politics is a performance art, not an intellectual exercise in the way that the law is.

I think that hits it on the head - he went to the Senate to demonstrate not legislate and voilated the Senate gentleman agreements doing so I think. I know a lot of people are all for not following the rules and bringing pitchforks to the senate but if you are a student of history and favor tradition you know how wrong doing so is.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-18   14:52:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Pericles (#19)

I know a lot of people are all for not following the rules and bringing pitchforks to the senate but if you are a student of history and favor tradition you know how wrong doing so is.

It's not wrong. It just doesn't work. And Cruz really should know that, given his vast studies of legislation and court decisions. Which is why I grasp your accusations that he grandstands. You'll notice he is a lot less inclined toward that these days; I think he's learned the limits of those tactics as a legislator.

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