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Title: US Intelligence Officer: “Every Single Terrorist Attack In US Was A False Flag Attack”
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From The Trenches
URL Source: http://www.fromthetrenchesworldrepo ... flag-attack/132817#more-132817
Published: May 16, 2015
Author: Tahir Sultan
Post Date: 2015-05-16 15:55:14 by Deckard
Keywords: None
Views: 12600
Comments: 40
Apart from documents that have outlined supposed terrorist threats, like Al-Qaeda, and their connection to US intelligence agencies, like the CIA, there are a number of whistleblowers that have come out adding more fuel to the fire. Because not many are even aware of these documents, letting people know about a truth that can be hard for people to accept, let alone ponder the possibility is very important. It’s just one aspect of the veil that’s been blinding the masses for quite some time now. The latest whistleblower is David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer, and the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence. He is a former CIA clandestine services case officer, and this is what he had to say: “Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.” What Is A “False Flag Attack?”A great example of a false flag attack is 9/11, something that many people believe to be a creation of US intelligence agencies, or some entity above the government (one that controls what Eisenhower called “the military industrial complex”). The idea is that these so called terrorist attacks are created by this group, in order to justify the infiltration of other countries, and to justify a heightened state of “national security.” As a result, in the eyes of the citizenry, war and mass murder are justified, when the intentions behind these actions are something the citizenry has no idea about. This is why we see a false sense of patriotism programmed into many people, especially in the United States. Men and women join this massive military machine with good hearts, thinking that they are serving their country and fighting terrorism, when they are doing the complete opposite. They are only participating in a fabricated war based on lies and misinformation. “The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al-Qaeda, and any informed intelligence officer knows this. But, there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an intensified entity representing the ‘devil’ only in order to drive TV watchers to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is the United States.” – Former British Foreign Secretary, Robin Cook Today, we might be seeing the same thing with ISIS. Although there are no verified documents like there are when it comes to Al-Qaeda, given what that information shows us, combined with Wikileaks documents and statements from insiders, we could be looking at the same thing. Not long ago, FBI whistleblower stated that: “The US is reviving terror scare with ISIS to promote the terror war industry.” You can read more about that story here Again, 9/11 is a great example and you can find out more information about that here.
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#1. To: Deckard, ALL (#0)
This article is an evil lie from the first word to the last.
And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6
Thank you for sharing your opinion. You may wish to cite some facts to show why you posted such an overly-dramatic response.
I spent several years in Special Forces, and I also have maintained connections with them to date. It's downright evil to blame 9/11 and any other events on the U.S.
And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6
Apparently this fellow knows more than you do. Are you calling him a liar? The latest whistleblower is David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer, and the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence. He is a former CIA clandestine services case officer, and this is what he had to say: “Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.” I suspect that his security clearance was quite a bit higher than yours. It's downright evil to blame 9/11 and any other events on the U.S. You really need to do a little research before posting. The evidence is overwhelming that operatives within the U.S. government at the very least allowed the events of 9/11 to transpire.
And 1400 years of islamic history should be discounted.
You may wish to cite some facts to show why you posted such an overly-dramatic response. While you of course may wish to cite one posted fact in the article that supported the charge: Every Single Terrorist Attack In US Was A False Flag Attack … since neither Robert David Steele Vivas nor Tahir Sultan did so in this overly-dramatic piece of yellow journalism. Thank you for sharing the facts.
False flag attack, not a mooselimb.
Oh look - anther unwarranted claim of "yellow journalism". Tell me Gatlin - should I trust you, or a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer and the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence who is a former CIA clandestine services case officer? I'd say that's a pretty obvious choice. While you're at it, explain to the forum how jet fuel can melt steel and how the "magic bullet" killed Kennedy.
Are you calling him a liar? He probably does know more than me. However, I sit with groups of 7 or 8 retired SF colonels, and that's not counting all the lower ranking officers and EM's. They don't give your conspiracy theories one serious thought. You don't even rate a laugh.
And the words of the LORD are flawless, like silver refined* in a furnace of clay, purified seven times. Psalm 12:6
Who appointed him? Tahir Sultan?
Me, of course….I will tell you why. A great amount of what you know about what goes on in this world is based on what you are told by other people. However, a very large percentage of people’s false beliefs are the result of other people telling you things that are not true. People who claim to be very knowledgeable are often looked up to by those who want to believe their statements and those statements often carry a great deal of weight with them. However, consideration must be given that these knowledgeable people expounding views often have very strong motives for promoting certain points of view, whether or not it is accurate. Therefore, you should learn to exercise extreme caution about believing what self-proclaimed experts try to tell you. You must be particularly careful about whether you believe someone if that person has something to gain from persuading you. If someone has something to gain from persuading you, then that person may or may not believe what he claims and his primary purpose is not to inform you of something. Instead he may want you to buy a product or support an effort….or in other words, get something out of you. You must learn to be wary of someone who has a point of view or some product to sell, so you will not get taken in by him. The most common motive for their persuasion is money….they are marketing a product or a service. Robert David Steele is selling his books, many of them on Amazon ….and he is selling his consultation services through the Earth Intelligence Network he founded in 2006. I realize that you’re not always going to be able to recognize the deceptions that are aimed at you and that is why I will be here to help enlighten you. So, again, I say: You should trust me.
If it's a choice between believing an obvious expert in the field and an anonymous poster on the internet, I'll choose the qualified expert every day and twice on Sundays. Your own delusional sense of self-importance is no match for a qualified expert. So, again, I say: You should trust me. Gee - that is almost the same thing the government says : 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.' Reagan called those the "most terrifying words in the English language".
Then it should present no problems to produce a list of these restraining orders, who they were issued to protect and who the FBI operatives were. Produce the list. It is a matter of public record if these restraining orders do actually exist.
I say: You should trust me. Should I be impressed? Perhaps I should post all the names of the military officers, pilots, architects and engineers who believe without a doubt that the official 9/11 narrative is a fairy tale. I suppose that the official 9/11 Commission findings prove your point? How sad is that? The Most Outrageous 9/11 Conspiracy Theory The (9/11 Commission) investigation was delayed, underfunded, set up to fail, a conflict of interest and a cover up from start to finish. It was based on testimony extracted through torture, the records of which were destroyed. It failed to mention the existence of WTC7, Able Danger, Ptech, Sibel Edmonds, OBL and the CIA, and the drills of hijacked aircraft being flown into buildings that were being simulated at the precise same time that those events were actually happening. It was lied to by the Pentagon, the CIA, the Bush Administration and as for Bush and Cheney…well, no one knows what they told it because they testified in secret, off the record, not under oath and behind closed doors. It didn’t bother to look at who funded the attacks because that question is of “little practical significance“. Still, the 9/11 Commission did brilliantly, answering all of the questions the public had (except most of the victims’ family members’ questions) and pinned blame on all the people responsible (although no one so much as lost their job), determining the attacks were “a failure of imagination” because “I don’t think anyone could envision flying airplanes into buildings ” except the Pentagon and FEMA and NORAD and the NRO.
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The man claims: "Every Single Terrorist Attack In US Was A False Flag Attack." Yet he fails to document one single incident. How can you call such a person, an "expert in the field?"
Oh excuse me - please enlighten us all with the details of your qualifications, training and experience as a Marine Corps intelligence officer and CIA clandestine services case officer. Remember, your 20 year career as an Air Force supply "officer" do not count.
IOW, you admit you can't cite a single case where courts have issued restraining orders against FBI agents or their operatives.
No twenty year old has anything to say worth hearing.
I have no qualification, training and experience as a Marine Corps Intelligence officer and CIA clandestine service case officer....but I can enlighten you with some pertinent details about Steele since I have the ability and desire to do a complete intelligence assessment and review all available information on this individual for relevance and currency. In doing that, I find that Robert David Steele Vivas (his real name) spent only “4 years on active duty and the balance in the individual ready reserve.” He served in the “infantry, qualified as an S-1/Adjutant, with service at all levels from platoon to Service Headquarters, and an intelligence officer.” Nowhere does it state how long he spent at each job at each level. The author states that David Steele is “a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer.” Now, is the author practicing yellow journalism, or is he not?
If you're talking about the same individual, it would seem unusual to spend 4 years on active duty and then 16 years in the reserves. Maybe it does happen more often than I think. However they start the article off with: "Sent to us by a reader.". Probably Deckard looking for another site to spam the hell out of. The source site is also flacking ads for preppers and militia training pretty heavily. I notice they don't provide any sources for their "news stories". And they seem to be hiding their own identities, kinda lamely. I know of other prepper sites that don't seem so shady.
It sound like he fits nicely into all of that. He stated that he “tested the boundaries of the two-party tyranny” by running for POTUS on the Reform Party ticket. After learning more about him, he is definitely the type of person that Deckard would latch on to idolize.
After all, the only people who are trustworthy are crackpots and con men. : ) Did he get the endorsement from the Reform Party's Griftmaster Supreme, Alan Keyes? LOL
Standby – I have some more details to enlighten you with. The author proudly claims that Steele was “the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence.” Wow, this makes him sound like a “big wheel” … doesn’t it? Well, he was not. The author simply practiced more yellow journalism by taking a wee bit of truth and flowering it up with a lot of omission. Yes, Steele was the second-ranking civilian for a short time, from 1988-1992, but the author neglected to mention the rank was only a GS- 14. I am not going to bother to look into the CIA claims….if you don’t get the picture now, then you never will.
I haven't read anything about Alan Keyes for a long time.
Ooops....duty calls, I have been summoned to do a chore. Catch you later, have a good evening...
I only brought him up because it's so rare you get a chance to use the phrase "Griftmaster Supreme" these days.
It didn't need to melt it, only weaken it.
Ooops! Where is the service as “a 20-year Marine Corps Intelligence officer?” I don’t know, but I do know where the yellow journalism is, Deckard….and now you know too.
Please permit me to. 1. Disclosure should have been made that Robert David Steele Vivas is a 9/11 Truther. 2. US Intelligence Officer: “Every Single Terrorist Attack In US Was A False Flag Attack.” Robert David Steele Vivas: “Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.” 3. The latest whistleblower is David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer. 4. You called Steele, an "expert in the field?" 5. GarySpFC stated: “This article is an evil lie from the first word to the last.” Summary.
But he'll drink down the Kool-Aid of an AGENDA writer. That's like learning black history from a high ranking Klan member... and posting his opinions as fact, here. lol
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Deckard has you on bozo so he'll never know that jet fuel can easily melt I-beams like those in the WTC in only 4 minutes. Of course, that does not fully explain all the particulars of the WTC collapse from fires on the upper floors but it goes a very long way toward refuting the nonsense peddled by the Truthers. In particular, their religious tenet that "jet fuel can't melt steel!!" which is quite tiresome and grossly ignorant as anyone who has ever worked with metals could tell them. Not that they'd listen anyway.
Say it ain't so, Deckard.
Just for completeness, readers can browse 911marines.org to find David Steele (Vivas) featured prominently. It took me a bit to locate the page. The other references to his spook background and Reform Party implosion are easy to find with any search engine.
I surmised it from this post. Obviously, you are the archetype and I am the minor annoyance. So if he's bozoed me, he's definitely bozoed you. We can wait to see if he replies to see if he's bozoed either of us.
That is like saying a retired school crossing guard speaks for cops everywhere! ROTFL.
There is no such thing as black history. As of 70 years ago African blacks were still living like cave men and had yet to even conceive or utilize the wheel. What little progress has been made in black culture has been migration into white areas and then demanding Marxist entitlement to economic equality under a Marxist concept of social justice. If left to their own devices they would still be living as they did after decending from trees after tens of thousands of years. Their history is one of grabbing anything within arms length and feeding off other races under Marxist license fed to them by subversives.
#2. To: GarySpFC (#1)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#3. To: Deckard (#2)
#4. To: GarySpFC (#3)
I spent several years in Special Forces, and I also have maintained connections with them to date.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#5. To: Deckard (#0)
“Every Single Terrorist Attack In US Was A False Flag Attack”
#6. To: Deckard, GarySpFC (#2)
Thank you for sharing your opinion.
#7. To: rlk (#5)
McCain volunteer says she was mugged, had 'B' cut into face
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#8. To: Gatlin (#6)
(Edited)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#9. To: Deckard (#4)
Apparently this fellow knows more than you do.
#10. To: Deckard (#0)
The latest whistleblower is David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer, and the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence.
#11. To: Deckard, GarySpFc, hondo68, misterwhite, GrandIsland (#8)
(Edited)
Tell me Gatlin - should I trust you, or a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer and the second-highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence who is a former CIA clandestine services case officer?
#12. To: Gatlin (#11)
A great amount of what you know about what goes on in this world is based on what you are told by other people
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#13. To: Deckard (#0)
“Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum.”
#14. To: Gatlin (#11)
The D&R terrorists hate us because we're free, to vote second party
"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
#15. To: GarySpFC, Gatlin (#9)
I sit with groups of 7 or 8 retired SF colonels, and that's not counting all the lower ranking officers and EM's. They don't give your conspiracy theories one serious thought.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#16. To: TooConservative, Gatlin, GarySpFC, hondo68 (#13)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#17. To: Deckard (#12)
...an obvious expert in the field...
#18. To: Gatlin (#17)
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#19. To: Deckard (#16)
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#20. To: Deckard (#8)
(Edited)
#21. To: Deckard, TooConservative (#18)
Oh excuse me - please enlighten us all with the details of your qualifications, training and experience as a Marine Corps intelligence officer and CIA clandestine services case officer.
#22. To: Gatlin (#21)
(Edited)
In doing that, I find that Robert David Steele Vivas (his real name) spent only “4 years on active duty and the balance in the individual ready reserve.” He served in the “infantry, qualified as an S-1/Adjutant, with service at all levels from platoon to Service Headquarters, and an intelligence officer.” Nowhere does it state how long he spent at each job at each level. The author states that David Steele is “a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer.” Now, is the author practicing yellow journalism, or is he not?
#23. To: TooConservative, Deckard (#22)
The source site is also flacking ads for preppers and militia training pretty heavily. I notice they don't provide any sources for their "news stories". And they seem to be hiding their own identities, kinda lamely.
#24. To: Gatlin (#23)
(Edited)
After learning more about him, he is definitely the type of person that Deckard would latch on to idolize.
...running for POTUS on the Reform Party ticket.
#25. To: Deckard, TooConservative (#18)
Oh excuse me - please enlighten us all with the details...
#26. To: TooConservative (#24)
... the Reform Party's Griftmaster Supreme, Alan Keyes?
#27. To: TooConservative (#26)
#28. To: Gatlin (#26)
I haven't read anything about Alan Keyes for a long time.
#29. To: Deckard (#8)
While you're at it, explain to the forum how jet fuel can melt steel
#30. To: rlk, Decard (#29)
While you're at it, explain to the forum how jet fuel can melt steel It didn't need to melt it, only weaken it.
#31. To: Deckard, GarySpFC (#2)
The latest whistleblower is David Steele, a 20-year Marine Corps intelligence officer…
#32. To: Deckard, GarySpFC (#2)
This article is an evil lie from the first word to the last.
Thank you for sharing your opinion.
You may wish to cite some facts to show why you posted such an overly-dramatic response.“Robert David Steele (Vivas) - US Marines for 9/11 Truth.”
Yet, nowhere….repeat, nowhere….did Steele cite one example or provide supporting data to prove that the USA intelligence agencies, or any entity in the government created any false flag attack.
This is not documented, it is documented that Steele:
“Steele’s official career since 1976 has included service as a Marine Corps…"
"Left the Marine Corps in 1979 to join the Central Intelligence Agency."
"In 1988 he returned to the Marine Corps to serve as co-creator of the Marine Corps Intelligence Center…"
"In 1993 he resigned from the US Government to create" (his own business).Without any proof whatsoever that he is who he says he is or that he has done what he said he did. You never once validated that Steele is the “authority” he claims to be, all you have done from the beginning is to attack me….the “whistleblower” who is pointing out facts to you.
That may be a description at its worst, but the article is a panorama exposés of nothing and is left only with an eye-catching headline followed by exaggerations, a few half-truths and gross omissions that must be taken as how bad it can get to be called at its cautionary best, a spun tale. This often seems to take place without consideration for truth for those who have an agenda and cannot provide supporting evidence. The premise of the article was greatly flawed and the needed promise supporting data was completely nonexistant. It was a gross exaggeration. All this led to the reputation of the expert to be invariable suspect from the beginning.
Truth be told, the entire article was fraught with pseudo-facts, half-truths, innuendos and misleading information employing the old “scare tactics” attention getting technique in an attempt to confuse the readers and brought into question the author’s journalistic ethics. Wait, I just gave a definition of yellow journalism….did I not?
#33. To: Gatlin (#11)
(Edited)
If it's a choice between believing an obvious expert in the field and an anonymous poster on the internet, I'll choose the qualified expert every day and twice on Sundays.
#34. To: Gatlin, rlk, Deckard (#30)
#35. To: TooConservative, Deckard (#34)
Deckard has you on bozo ...
#36. To: Gatlin (#32)
#37. To: Gatlin (#35)
Say it ain't so, Deckard.
#38. To: TooConservative (#37)
So if he's bozoed me, he's definitely bozoed you.
#39. To: GrandIsland (#33)
That's like learning black history from a high ranking Klan member... and posting his opinions as fact, here. lol
#40. To: GrandIsland (#33)
(Edited)
That's like learning black history...
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