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Title: Psychiatric Drugs Kill 500k+ Western Adults Annually, Few Positive Benefits (Yet Drug Warriors Call Pot "Dangerous")
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Lew Rockwell
URL Source: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/05 ... -drugs-kill-500000-every-year/
Published: May 14, 2015
Author: Russia Today
Post Date: 2015-05-14 09:26:36 by Deckard
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Views: 7507
Comments: 28
Psychiatric drugs lead to the deaths of over 500,000 people aged 65 and over annually in the West, a Danish scientist says. He warns the benefits of these drugs are “minimal,” and have been vastly overstated. Research director at Denmark’s Nordic Cochrane Centre, Professor Peter Gøtzsche, says the use of most antidepressants and dementia drugs could be halted without inflicting harm on patients. The Danish scientist’s views were published in the British Medical Journal on Tuesday. His scathing analysis will likely prove controversial among traditional medics. However, concern is mounting among doctors and scientists worldwide that psychiatric medication is doing more harm than good. In particular, they say antipsychotic drugs have been overprescribed to many dementia patients in a bid to calm agitated behavior. Gøtzsche warns psychiatric drugs kill patients year in year out, and hold few positive benefits. He says in excess of half a million citizens across the Western world aged 65 and over die annually as a result of taking these drugs. “Their benefits would need to be colossal to justify this, but they are minimal,” he writes. “Given their lack of benefit, I estimate we could stop almost all psychotropic drugs without causing harm.” Gøtzsche, who is also a clinical trials expert, says drug trials funded by big pharmaceutical companies tend to produce biased results because many patients took other medication prior to the tests. He says patients cease taking the old drugs and then experience a phase of withdrawal prior to taking the trial pharmaceuticals, which appear highly beneficial at first. The Danish professor also warns fatalities from suicides in clinical trials are significantly under-reported. In the case of antidepressants venlafaxine and fluoxetine, Gøtzsche casts doubt over their efficacy. He said depression lifts in placebo groups given fake tablets almost as promptly as groups who partake in official clinical tests. He also stressed the results of trials of drugs used to treat schizophrenia are disconcerting, while those for ADHD are ambiguous. Commenting on the negative side effects of such pharmaceutical drugs, Gøtzsche argued the “short-term relief” appears to be replaced by “long term harm.” “Animal studies strongly suggest that these drugs can produce brain damage, which is probably the case for all psychotropic drugs,”he said. “Given their lack of benefit, I estimate we could stop almost all psychotropic drugs without causing harm – by dropping all antidepressants, ADHD drugs and dementia drugs … and using only a fraction of the antipsychotics and benzodiazepines we currently use.” “This would lead to healthier and more long-lived populations.” Gøtzsche says psychotropic drugs are “immensely harmful” if used for prolonged periods. “They should almost exclusively be used in acute situations and always with a firm plan for tapering off, which can be difficult for many patients,” he adds. Gøtzsche’s views are sharply contradicted by many experts in the field of mental health. But others, including a diverse group of medical experts and institutions affiliated with the Nordic Cochrane Centre, argue otherwise. The Nordic Cochrane Centre is an independent research hub dedicated to scrutinizing and monitoring the effects of health care. The debate on psychiatric drugs has gathered momentum in recent times. In the discussion, published in the British Medical Journal (BMJ), Gøtzsche’s arguments are contradicted by Professor of Mood Disorders Allan Young and John Crace. Crace, himself a psychiatric patient, writes for the Guardian. Crace and Young say a broad body of research indicates the drugs are effective and that they are just as helpful as drugs for other ailments. They also argue mental health conditions are the fifth most significant contributor to disabilities worldwide. While Gøtzsche stresses clinical trials bankrolled by pharma giants churn out skewered results, Young and Crace say the efficacy and safety of psychiatric medication continues to be monitored after research trials come to a close. However, both Young and Crace acknowledge concern over the side effects and effectiveness of psychiatric medication. “For some critics, the onus often seems to be on the drug needing to prove innocence from causing harm rather than a balanced approach to evaluating the available evidence,” they write. “Whether concerns are genuine or an expression of prejudice is not clear, but over time many concerns have been found to be overinflated.” The BMJ discussion is a preamble to the Maudsley debate at Kings College London on Wednesday. The debate takes place three times a year at the university’s Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology & Neuroscience (IoPPN). Wednesday’s debate focuses on the impacts of psychiatric medications, and poses the question of whether they prove more destructive for patients than beneficial. Reprinted from Russia Today.
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#1. To: Deckard (#0)
How do these psychiatric drugs kill patients? How does he know it wasn't the underlying depression that killed them? What a crock of shit article.
http://www.cchr.org/cchr-reports/psychiatry/introduction.html especially to children where the diagnosis of ADHD is often a mis-diagnosis . http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/774666 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
The anti drug stuff is linked to the utilitarian movement of the 1900s - anything that made the workers less productive to the state or to factory owners were banned.
Marijuana is a drug and all drugs have risks. While pot has never reportedly caused an overdose death, that however doesn’t mean that pot is harmless. A lot of research has linked adolescent pot use to show a wide range of bad consequences. These include cognitive deficiencies and some worse educational outcomes. Furthermore, the research on any health effects of pot is inconclusive. One such study has linked the use of potent marijuana to psychotic disorders. Then research on whether smoked pot causes lung diseases or cancer has yielded conflicting results. There is a danger that marijuana does increase the chance of accidents. A study from Colombia University found that people driving with marijuana in their system were nearly twice as likely to get in a fatal car crash. Is the euphoric high one seeks from smoking pot worth risks associated with it?
Well, liberals, like you and the AGENDA SQUAD aren't quite sick of the lazy welfare class that's building in this country... so I understand why you (an already outed liberal) and Deckard and AGENDA crew (closet libtards) would be promoting legal drugs. Why not increase the size of the already overly Dysfuctional society... sarc
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
Just the opposite: "Utilitarianism is the idea that the moral worth of an action is solely determined by its contribution to overall utility in maximizing happiness or pleasure ..."
Over-prescribed? Perhaps. But your links say nothing about the 500,000 people dying from them (the subject of this article). If a patient suffering from severe depression commits suicide, blaming the antidepressants he was taking is like blaming chemotherapy for cancer deaths.
Pot is mentally debilitating and dangerous. Attempting to divert the focus away from that and recentering it upon misprescription and misuse of legal medications doesn't change that reality.
Yep, and ... "Marijuana smoke contains 50% to 70% more cancer-causing substances than tobacco smoke. One major research study reported that a single cannabis joint could cause as much damage to the lungs as up to five regular cigarettes smoked one after another. Long-time joint smokers often suffer from bronchitis, an inflammation of the respiratory tract."
So where are the bodies? California has had medical cannabis since 1996. The "Drug War" did what it was supposed to do. While the elites in DC stripped our liberties and passed "Free Trade" agreements to move manufacturing jobs overseas to help wall street, a perfect bogeyman was in place so people like you wouldn't concentrate on the real causes of your declining "society". Aren't you proud. You remind me of the Japanese Holdouts- still fighting WW2 long after Hiroshima and Nagasaki were incinerated. You are Liberty Flame's own Hiroo Onoda Onoda fought a real threat though- you are fighting a plant.
here http://ssristories.org/old/index1.php This has been pointed out to you before but you keep ignoring it. Why is that? You and Gatlin need to understand that the war on cannabis is over and you lost
More "Reefer Madness" nonsense. Marijuana less cancerous than tobacco Marijuana is less carcinogenic than tobacco smoke and may even have some anti-cancer properties, new research suggests. Robert Melamede, chair of biology at the University of Colorado in Boulder, reviewed studies of the illicit drug and published his findings in the Oct. 17 issue of Harm Reduction Journal. Melamede's conclusion is certain to factor in the medical-marijuana debate, because the cancer-causing potential of the drug is one of the reasons often cited by those who oppose legalizing it for medicinal uses. He said he was motivated to investigate the issue because the Drug Enforcement Administration has made the argument that marijuana has four times the amount of tar contained in tobacco smoke, so it is potentially carcinogenic. "I said, 'Let's see what's true because the government doesn't have a very good record on telling the truth about cannabis,'" Melamede, who classifies himself as a medical-marijuana advocate, told United Press International. He said the studies indicated although marijuana smoke does contain carcinogens, it does not appear to induce cancer because of its unique pharmacological properties. Lung cancer, for example, is caused by a combination of carcinogens in conjunction with nicotine found in tobacco smoke. "It's the nicotine that's really the cancer-promoting agent," he explained. "That's absent in marijuana smoke so you don't have that enhancing factor." Studies to date have not linked marijuana smoking with the lung, colon, rectal and other cancers associated with tobacco smoking, Melamede said. In addition, other studies have indicated compounds found in cannabis might even kill certain cancers, including lung, breast, prostate and skin, as well as leukemia and lymphoma, and a type of brain cancer called glioma.
"Utilitarianism is the idea that the moral worth of an action is solely determined by its contribution to overall utility in maximizing happiness or pleasure ..." The ideological name escapes me but the groups that were behind prohibition were Protestant holy rollers and industrialists. I called them utilitarian because they just wanted sober worker bees for their factories and churches. And GrandIsland, I am not a liberal - and I can't see how an American small govt conservative wants big govt in the lives of individual people and power over state's rights.
It was the temperance movement.
You're pro drug Anti cop You believe in rehabilitating rapists, attempted murders and dangerous phyco's Thats all part of the libtard platform. Were you not aware? lol Oh... and let's not forget, you are a vile hater of Ronald Reagan. That makes you more libtard than KILLary.
Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on. Robert Kennedy
These folks are not conservatives - neo-cons would be a more appropriate moniker for them. Neoconservatives are more closely aligned with the left on the size and power of government.
First time I've seen it. But I'd ignore it because those deaths are not what we're talking about. If you're going to include deaths to others when a person has certain drugs in their system, then marijuana has killed thousands of people. If a person has cancer, is on chemo, then dies, do you blame the chemo for killing the patient? Yet if they're severely depressed, are on antidepressants, and harm someone, you blame the antidepressants.
Anti cop I am not anti cop. In fact I attacked the Bundy ranch supporters because they aimed weapons at Law Enforcement. I am against the drug war but I am pretty much drug free if you don't count an occasional beer.
Neoconservatives are more closely aligned with the left on the size and power of government. I used the term "American conservative" for a reason because they claim to not be like conservatives in parties like the European Christian democrats, etc. They claim to be small govt (many conservative movements are pro big govt and pro Christian big govt intervention in your life) but they support big govt interventionist policies. I hate contradictions and hypocrisies.
I'm a conservative and I believe in small government. I also believe that people in a society have a right to set the standards by which they all agree to live. "Every society has a right to fix the fundamental principles of its association, and to say to all individuals, that if they contemplate pursuits beyond the limits of these principles and involving dangers which the society chooses to avoid, they must go somewhere else for their exercise; that we want no citizens, and still less ephemeral and pseudo-citizens, on such terms. We may exclude them from our territory, as we do persons infected with disease."
No, America has lost. We are now stuck with an extensive population of debilitated mental vegetables who say, "What, me worry" and light up a joint for a feeling of security. They are not dependable for anything except drug use.
The Big Bad Pot Warrior has a memory problem? http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=342086&Disp=5#C5 There's more... Of course you'd ignore it. These deaths don't count? It would be funny if it wasn't so sad, bob...er...mister. Link? Like the ones I've provided to you. Thanks in advance.
America didn't lose because some people (like Carl Sagan) were puffing on joints. It lost because the Government turned and sold out the people for money and power. You really should worry about the real drug problem that is getting worse every day and really does cause violence and mayhem: ssristories
My God, man….that you had to call on the memory of a now deceased officer in the Imperial Japanese Army for an analogy, whereby you tried to perceive some similarity basis to infer some further similarity that has yet to be observed is grossly weak and shows your desperation to defend the indefensible. An argument from any analogy is ineffective. Especially a ridiculous one that is weakened in all aspects by its complete inadequacy. Will you next do the same by trying to use any physiological similarities between rats and humans entails to show one has to have “intestinal fortitude” to smoke pot? I fear I will again see something equally as ludicrous. Nah, I don’t fight plants. I do of course recognize the dangers of some and distance myself from them accordingly. The shrub with leaves and beautiful flowers pictured below is one of the most dangerous plants in the world. I stay away from it. The shrub below is another dangerous plant I stay away from.
That is a contradiction. No wonder your lot sounds nuts. In any case your reason for the drug war has not only been proven wrong but is now laughed at by the next generation. They are just waiting for you to die because your side can't admit it was so stupidly wrong that they will cling to a failed idea no matter what. What, 10 more years? 20? We will be rid of your ilk.
I stand with my original statement.
Really? They're going to legalize all drugs, including prescription drugs, to all ages? I haven't heard a peep from the laughing next generation on that. You do realize that any drug not made legal to all ages will find a drug dealer to sell it illegally, don't you? Or is the laughing next generation going to be flaming hypocrites and only call for the legalization of marijuana, and only to those over 21, and keep the eeevil drug war going on the remaining drugs. Now THAT I've heard. So much for the laughing next generation's "liberty" and "freedom", huh? Bunch of selfish ignorant fools.
Those links were part of my debate with The Examiner when I ripped him a new one. I bet he still hurts from that ass-whoopin' I gave him two years ago. As to those links from him, they're worthless. "This guy was on Prozac and he died." Yeah? So? Did he die from an overdose? Did he mix it with alcohol? Did the Prozac not work (or did he not take it) and his depression caused him to commit suicide or kill others? "Link? Like the ones I've provided to you." Pointless. For the same reasons.
"Gøtzsche warns psychiatric drugs kill patients year in year out"
#2. To: misterwhite (#1)
He's right , psychotropic drugs are over-prescribed ;and they are very dangerous . http://www.apa.org/monitor/2012/06/prescribing.aspx
#3. To: misterwhite, Deckard (#1)
#4. To: Deckard (#0)
(Edited)
All drugs can be dangerous ...
#5. To: Pericles (#3)
The anti drug stuff is linked to the utilitarian movement of the 1900s - anything that made the workers less productive to the state or to factory owners were banned.
#6. To: Pericles (#3)
"The anti drug stuff is linked to the utilitarian movement of the 1900s - anything that made the workers less productive to the state or to factory owners were banned."
#7. To: tomder55 (#2)
#8. To: Deckard (#0)
Psychiatric Drugs Kill 500k+ Western Adults Annually, Few Positive Benefits (Yet Drug Warriors Call Pot "Dangerous")
#9. To: rlk, Deckard (#8)
Pot is mentally debilitating and dangerous. Attempting to divert the focus away from that and recentering it upon misprescription and misuse of legal medications doesn't change that reality.
#10. To: Gatlin (#9)
Marijuana smoke contains 50% to 70% more cancer-causing substances than tobacco smoke. One major research study reported that a single cannabis joint could cause as much damage to the lungs as up to five regular cigarettes smoked one after another. Long-time joint smokers often suffer from bronchitis, an inflammation of the respiratory tract."
Hiroo Onoda, (March 19, 1922 – January 16, 2014) was an Imperial Japanese Army intelligence officer who fought in World War II and did not surrender in 1945. In 1974, his former commander traveled from Japan to personally issue orders relieving him from duty. Onoda had spent almost 30 years holding out in the Philippines. He held the rank of Second Lieutenant in the Imperial Japanese Army.
#11. To: misterwhite (#1)
How do these psychiatric drugs kill patients?
#12. To: Gatlin (#9)
Marijuana smoke contains 50% to 70% more cancer-causing substances than tobacco smoke. One major research study reported that a single cannabis joint could cause as much damage to the lungs as up to five regular cigarettes smoked one after another
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#13. To: misterwhite, GrandIsland (#6)
"The anti drug stuff is linked to the utilitarian movement of the 1900s - anything that made the workers less productive to the state or to factory owners were banned." Just the opposite:
#14. To: Pericles (#13)
"The ideological name escapes me but the groups that were behind prohibition were Protestant holy rollers and industrialists."
#15. To: Pericles (#13)
(Edited)
And GrandIsland, I am not a liberal - and I can't see how an American small govt conservative wants big govt in the lives of individual people and power over state's rights.
#16. To: Pericles, GrandIsland, Gatlin, misterwhite (#13)
I can't see how an American small govt conservative wants big govt in the lives of individual people and power over state's rights.
“Truth is treason in the empire of lies.” - Ron Paul
Americans who have no experience with, or knowledge of, tyranny believe that only terrorists will experience the unchecked power of the state. They will believe this until it happens to them, or their children, or their friends.
Paul Craig Roberts
#17. To: Operation 40 (#11)
"This has been pointed out to you before but you keep ignoring it. Why is that?"
#18. To: GrandIsland (#15)
You're pro drug
#19. To: Deckard, GrandIsland, Gatlin, misterwhite (#16)
I can't see how an American small govt conservative wants big govt in the lives of individual people and power over state's rights. These folks are not conservatives - neo-cons would be a more appropriate moniker for them.
#20. To: Pericles (#19)
"They claim to be small govt"
--Thomas Jefferson to William H. Crawford, 1816.
#21. To: Operation 40 (#11)
You and Gatlin need to understand that the war on cannabis is over and you lost
#22. To: misterwhite (#17)
First time I've seen it.
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=338486&Disp=6#C6
http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=332101&Disp=10#C10 But I'd ignore it because those deaths are not what we're talking about.
then marijuana has killed thousands of people.
#23. To: rlk (#21)
No, America has lost.
#24. To: Operation 40. Deckard, misterwhite, GrandIsland (#10)
(Edited)
Hiroo Onoda...
- you are fighting a plant.
Nerium Oleander is one of the most dangerous plants in the world, which is bizarre on account of how widely it's used as a decorative shrub. This bush pops up in parks, schools, and back yards all over the country, especially in the southern and western regions of the US. And while it might be nice to look at, don't go chewing on any part of it — its leaves, flowers, and fruit all contain chemicals known as as cardiac glycosides, which, while therapeutic in precise doses, can put you into cardiac arrest if ingested unsystematically.
Cannabis is an annual, dioecious, flowering herb....a dangerous plant.
#25. To: misterwhite (#20)
(Edited)
I'm a conservative and I believe in small government. I also believe that people in a society have a right to set the standards by which they all agree to live.
#26. To: Operation 40 (#23)
#27. To: Pericles (#25)
"In any case your reason for the drug war has not only been proven wrong but is now laughed at by the next generation."
#28. To: Operation 40 (#22)
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