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Title: This is why it is so important you read the word of God, in the original Hebrew and Greek, yourself and not take what others say it says.
Source: ChristianPatriot.com
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Published: May 14, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste for ACP
Post Date: 2015-05-14 09:05:01 by BobCeleste
Keywords: ACP
Views: 79701
Comments: 248

This is why it is so important you read the word of God, in the original Hebrew and Greek, yourself and not take what others say it says.

This is how Malachi 3:9 is represented in various interpretations.

Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. (KJV)

With a curse ye are cursed! And Me ye are deceiving--this nation--all of it. (YLT)

Ye are cursed with the curse; for ye rob me, even this whole nation. (ASV)

You are cursed with a curse, For you have robbed Me, Even this whole nation. (NKJV)

You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing me; the whole nation of you. (RSV)

You are cursed with the curse; for you rob me, even this whole nation. (WEB)


Notice how everyone of the above translations say "Ye or you are cursed with the curse" But that is not what the original Hebrew says. Here is what the original Hebrew says: Ye are cursed {'arar} with a curse {m@erah}: for ye have robbed {qaba`} me, even this whole nation {gowy}.

Let's look at the Hebrew words 'arar and m@erah.

'arar is a primitive root; to execrate:--X bitterly curse

m@erah is an execration:--curse.

The original does not say You are cursed, it says cursed with a curse, meaning it could either be you are cursed with a curse or you cursed with a curse, in one it is God doing the cursing in the other it is it is God being cursed.

God's word is to important to trust others with it, your salvation is to important, you need to take it into your own hands not rely upon the word or interpretation of others.

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#22. To: BobCeleste (#0)

The Roman Catholic Church tried very hard to keep the understanding of the Scriptures from the people. They fought to keep the Holy Bible in Latin which the common, uneducated folks couldn't read. The Reformers brought the Holy Scriptures to people in translations that the common people could read. Of course, the RCC leaders were happy to tell the commoners what the Scriptures really meant. The corruption in the priestly caste was rampant then as now.

Don  posted on  2015-05-14   20:29:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Don (#22)

And you point is?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-14   20:57:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: BobCeleste (#24)

We have to rely on translations to have the Holy Scriptures available to us.

Don  posted on  2015-05-14   21:37:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Don (#29)

We have to rely on translations to have the Holy Scriptures available to us.

Why?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-15   7:47:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: BobCeleste (#59)

Many don't have the time, resources, or ability to learn Ancient Greek or Hebrew. Many in the Middle Ages had the same problem with Latin.

Don  posted on  2015-05-15   8:27:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Don, BobCeleste, GarySpFc, liberator, TooConservative (#61)

Many in the Middle Ages had the same problem with Latin.

Yep and the above is probably the most important point in this thread.

How many centuries did sola ecclesia keep the written Scriptures from the lay person because they were not in the local or common language? Long time. One had to become a monk, priest or bishop to actually examine the scriptures.

Let's not go back to that...

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-15   10:02:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: redleghunter (#66)

How many centuries did sola ecclesia keep the written Scriptures from the lay person because they were not in the local or common language? Long time.

Printing press was not invented yet.

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#81. To: A Pole (#75)

Yes that is true. However even scrolls and codex "books" at assemblies although available in most Christian traditions were not in the tongue of the people. Not as much in the East as was seen in the West. The West chose the language of the intelligentsia, Latin thus creating two distinct classes of church members. This was not so in the NT. Pentecost shows that the Gospel is for all nations and tongues.

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