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Title: This is why it is so important you read the word of God, in the original Hebrew and Greek, yourself and not take what others say it says.
Source: ChristianPatriot.com
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Published: May 14, 2015
Author: Pastor Bob Celeste for ACP
Post Date: 2015-05-14 09:05:01 by BobCeleste
Keywords: ACP
Views: 69540
Comments: 248

This is why it is so important you read the word of God, in the original Hebrew and Greek, yourself and not take what others say it says.

This is how Malachi 3:9 is represented in various interpretations.

Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation. (KJV)

With a curse ye are cursed! And Me ye are deceiving--this nation--all of it. (YLT)

Ye are cursed with the curse; for ye rob me, even this whole nation. (ASV)

You are cursed with a curse, For you have robbed Me, Even this whole nation. (NKJV)

You are cursed with a curse, for you are robbing me; the whole nation of you. (RSV)

You are cursed with the curse; for you rob me, even this whole nation. (WEB)


Notice how everyone of the above translations say "Ye or you are cursed with the curse" But that is not what the original Hebrew says. Here is what the original Hebrew says: Ye are cursed {'arar} with a curse {m@erah}: for ye have robbed {qaba`} me, even this whole nation {gowy}.

Let's look at the Hebrew words 'arar and m@erah.

'arar is a primitive root; to execrate:--X bitterly curse

m@erah is an execration:--curse.

The original does not say You are cursed, it says cursed with a curse, meaning it could either be you are cursed with a curse or you cursed with a curse, in one it is God doing the cursing in the other it is it is God being cursed.

God's word is to important to trust others with it, your salvation is to important, you need to take it into your own hands not rely upon the word or interpretation of others.

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#22. To: BobCeleste (#0)

The Roman Catholic Church tried very hard to keep the understanding of the Scriptures from the people. They fought to keep the Holy Bible in Latin which the common, uneducated folks couldn't read. The Reformers brought the Holy Scriptures to people in translations that the common people could read. Of course, the RCC leaders were happy to tell the commoners what the Scriptures really meant. The corruption in the priestly caste was rampant then as now.

Don  posted on  2015-05-14   20:29:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Don (#22)

And you point is?

BobCeleste  posted on  2015-05-14   20:57:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: BobCeleste (#24)

We have to rely on translations to have the Holy Scriptures available to us.

Don  posted on  2015-05-14   21:37:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Don (#29)

We have to rely on translations to have the Holy Scriptures available to us.

Which ONE is right?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-05-14   21:46:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: buckeroo (#30)

To many people it really doesn't matter. those people who are Christians know the difference in the false and the real. Christ said that His sheep know His voice.

Don  posted on  2015-05-14   21:55:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Don (#31)

To [sic] many people it really doesn't matter.

To me the question matters as I posed the question to you.

those people who are Christians know the difference in the false and the real. Christ said that His sheep know His voice.

It must be an awesome event to be able to evade the question about which Bible is the correct version as you receive some sort of mystical guidance from sources high above the clouds, correct?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-05-14   23:07:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo, Don, GarySpFc, SOSO (#34)

There are over 5,000 existing Greek NT manuscripts. ALL Bibles out there today are translated from those manuscripts. Some better than others.

The KJV, NKJV, NASB, and YLT (some others) are literal word for word translations from the NT Greek manuscripts.

Some versions are passage by passage literal equivalent translations.

Some are paraphrased versions.

If someone is looking for accuracy in translating from one language to the other, then the literal word for word translations are best. If someone is just starting to read the Bible for understanding then the literal equivalent is good.

Yet none of the above matters unless you will blow the dust off the Bible and actually read it and study it and pray.

redleghunter  posted on  2015-05-14   23:20:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: redleghunter (#36)

There are over 5,000 existing Greek NT manuscripts. ALL Bibles out there today are translated from those manuscripts. Some better than others.

Good reply. Which one carries the authoritative, "word of God?"

buckeroo  posted on  2015-05-14   23:25:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: buckeroo (#37)

Bucky, I don't believe your question indicates you really want an answer. You simply want to argue against the Holy Bible. Why should anyone spend time feeding your hostility toward the Scriptures?

Don  posted on  2015-05-14   23:31:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Don (#40)

You simply want to argue against the Holy Bible.

Which one?

buckeroo  posted on  2015-05-14   23:33:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: buckeroo, Don (#41)

You simply want to argue against the Holy Bible.

Which one?

I would like a straight forward answer to his question. Do you have one?

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-15   0:09:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: SOSO (#50)

I have my preferences. I'm waiting to see what you and Bucky have for your favorites, or do either of you have any?

Don  posted on  2015-05-15   0:14:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Don (#51)

I'm waiting to see what you and Bucky have for your favorites, or do either of you have any?

Why? Don't you have your opinion firmed up yet?

But since you appear to be weak kneed of sorts I will accomodate you. I have only been schooled on one version and that is sufficient for me. The other versions appear to be interesting but almost irrelevant to my faith.

Question for you though (which you probably won't answer): had I been schooled on a different version of the Scriptures would my belief in and understanding of God and what He expects from me be different? For example, suppose I didn't believe in transubstanitation to name just one difference in the teachings of the various Christian religious sects?

SOSO  posted on  2015-05-15   11:12:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: SOSO (#67)

No, I understand fully how people who have been "schooled" in their formative years on one version of the Bible. There are cults like the RCC Church who brainwash their captive peons whose only function is to support the leaders of the cult. The history of such cults is replete with acts of violence to keep the "faithful" captive. There is no salvation outside the church. if you don't blindly follow the dictates of the church, they will give you the boot and consign you to Hell.There are cults that tell you you must do good works or you are not saved, etc. etc. etc.

Am I not answering your questions? Take a deep breath and relax. Your only purpose is to mock and show your "superiority." I'm not falling for your nonsense. I have said how Christians know the difference between true and false translations. I have already said another poster has answered that question. I fully agree with that poster's comments. Be happy with that response.

Don  posted on  2015-05-15   11:49:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#71. To: Don (#69)

No, I understand fully how people who have been "schooled" in their formative years on one version of the Bible. There are cults like the RCC Church who brainwash their captive peons whose only function is to support the leaders of the cult.

FYI, as I previously stated I had 4 years of Theology as part of my undergraduate degree. Don't let your flamming prejudices and hatreds always dictate what comes out of your mouth.

"Am I not answering your questions?"

No, you are not, Weasel.

" Your only purpose is to mock and show your "superiority."

Spoken like the true intellectual coward and bankrupt that you are. Adios, Spunky.

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