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Title: Hours after tragic train derailment, MSNBC ghoulishly uses it to advance a political agenda; Update: Train was going twice the speed limit
Source: HotAir
URL Source: http://hotair.com/archives/2015/05/ ... to-advance-a-political-agenda/
Published: May 13, 2015
Author: Noah Rothman
Post Date: 2015-05-13 14:02:40 by Tooconservative
Keywords: choo-choo jumps track, libtards celebrate
Views: 1690
Comments: 11

“Never let a crisis go to waste,” as Chicago mayor and former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel famously said. In MSNBC’s case, you could add “tragedy” to the list of events that should be exploited for all their maximum political value.

In an awful tragedy, one particularly acute for New York City and Washington D.C. residents, an Amtrak train derailed on Tuesday night resulting in over 140 injuries and at least seven deaths. The bodies were still being collected when the hosts and guests of MSNBC’s Morning Joe appeared convinced that this tragedy could have been averted had the Congress passed massive spending measures aimed at repairing what Barack Obama contends is America’s “crumbling infrastructure.”

In a compelling post, National Review’s Jonah Goldberg unloaded on the unfounded self-assuredness and the factually inaccurate assertions that characterized this segment. What’s more, he addressed the hideously ghoulish desire displayed this morning by these media figures to advance a political agenda on the heels of a bloody tragedy.
There’s this obsession, particularly on the East Coast, with moving lots of Americans around by train. The sophisticated Europeans do that, we should too. There’s so much know-nothingism at work here. In America we move stuff (i.e. freight) by rail and people by road (and plane). In Europe they do it the other way around. America’s freight rail system is the best in the world (which is why Warren Buffett keeps investing in it). The reasons for this arrangement have to do with population density, geography, etc. I’m not saying our passenger rail system couldn’t be better, particularly in the Northeast. But this idea that we’re falling behind China on infrastructure is ridiculous. Just because the Morning Joe crowd doesn’t care about our see the freight rail system, doesn’t mean we should obviously blow it up to turn it into a passenger rail system.

Goldberg’s post dismantled the pathology that compels partisans to insist that their pet cause would have prevented a heartbreaking disaster, even before an investigation into the incident has been conducted. These MSNBC personalities might have spared themselves quite a bit of embarrassment if they had checked NBC News’ website before launching into a diatribe loaded with familiar Democratic talking points. A source told NBC’s reporters on Wednesday morning that excessive speed, not America’s dated railway network, is most likely to blame for this tragedy.

The macabre instinct to politicize an ongoing tragedy has become a pattern for MSNBC hosts. In December of 2012, even while helicopters hovered over Sandy Hook Elementary School and ambulances raced to the scene of that horrible massacre, MSNBC host Alex Wagner consoled herself by noting that “hopefully” the shooting would provide Democrats with the “political capital” they need to pass new laws restricting gun ownership.

“Let’s talk about this idea of politicizing a tragedy,” she said of the exploitation of the Sandy Hook shootings a few months later. “Because, I see this and I think, this is a reminder of what we’re talking about in the same way that showing pictures of oil-covered birds isn’t exploiting wildlife to talk about energy reform. Nor is talking about the death count in Afghanistan exploiting a tragedy to talk about what we’re doing overseas and our foreign policy.”

Only an intellectually capable person could convince themselves that this manner of moral bankruptcy is not only justified but necessary. It takes a truly committed ideologue to sacrifice decency upon the altar of partisanship, but only someone with logical faculties can subordinate their own humanity in service to a political agenda.

“Disgusting,” Goldberg said of today’s segment on Morning Joe. Indeed. Hopefully the families of the dead will understand why they were informed, dubiously, that their loved ones’ deaths might have been prevented. You see, this contention might help Democratic candidates win next November. And that’s what’s really important, right?

Update (AP): I wonder how much we’d need to spend on infrastructure to keep Amtrak conductors from taking a curve at 100 miles per hour.
An Amtrak train involved in a fatal crash here appears to have been traveling at more than 100 miles an hour as it entered a sharp curve where it derailed Tuesday night, killing at least seven people, according to two people with knowledge of the investigation.

The speed limit in that section of track drops to 50 miles per hour, according to the Federal Railroad Administration.

Investigators are focusing on the possibility that excessive speed was a factor in the derailment, one of these people said.

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#1. To: TooConservative (#0)

We should wait till the next bridge collapse to bring the infrastructure funding up.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-13   14:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Pericles (#1)

We should wait till the next bridge collapse to bring the infrastructure funding up.

If we get really lucky, it'll take out a couple of schoolbuses!

It is striking what a bunch of ghouls hang out at PMSNBC.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-13   18:20:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#0)

Just think of how much damage the train would have caused if it was going 2 or 300 MPH.

From what I heard the engineer isn't talking, lawyered up immediately.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-13   19:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: CZ82, Pericles (#3)

I notice that LF's choo-choo chorus doesn't want to visit this train thread. Funny.

This derailment brings to mind the last big derailment. Sometimes, I think I'm the only person boring enough to recall these fairly recent and strikingly similar stories.

CNN, 12/3/2013: 'Extreme speed' eyed in fatal Bronx crash



The commuter train that jumped its tracks in the Bronx was barreling into a curve at nearly three times the posted speed when it derailed, killing four passengers, federal safety officials said Monday.

Preliminary data from the event recorders aboard the train clocked it at 82 mph as it approached the 30-mph curve, where the Hudson and Harlem rivers converge, National Transportation Safety Board member Earl Weener told reporters. The data show the engineer cut the throttle and slammed on the brakes, but those moves came "very late in the game," Weener said.

"This is raw data off the event recorders, so it tells us what happened. It doesn't tell us why it happened," Weener said.

Investigators questioned the engineer, William Rockefeller, and the rest of the train crew on Monday. Rockefeller told investigators he applied the brakes, but the train didn't slow down, according to a law enforcement official who was at the scene and is familiar with the investigation.

But while the cause of the derailment has not yet been determined, investigators have seen no indication of brake problems, Weener said.

Then, as now, the Dims were howling for infrastructure spending before the bodies were removed.

Infrastructure spending won't help trains that run more than double the track's rated limits.

I notice libmedia is carefully avoiding any reminder of that other speed-related crash.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-13   22:13:06 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: TooConservative (#4)

Then, as now, the Dims were howling for infrastructure spending before the bodies were removed.

Infrastructure spending won't help trains that run more than double the track's rated limits.

Automated controls would - they cost money.

Pericles  posted on  2015-05-14   1:56:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: TooConservative (#4)

Maybe the reality of the situation is starting to hit home and he's avoiding it.

I also don't think he realizes for the trains to go that fast you have to have a lot of straight track. And how are they going to procure all of the land to build the straight tracks? Kick people off their property and offer them .50 on the dollar for it? I know people like him could care less about that aspect of building his selfish little dream, but it would be interesting to see him howl if his property/Section 8 apartment/cardboard box is in the way of the train tracks. LOL...

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-14   7:14:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: TooConservative (#4) (Edited)

I notice libmedia is carefully avoiding any reminder of that other speed-related crash.

Did you see that list of train incidents from 2000-2009 I posted? Was in the hundreds in just a 10 year period. How many of those have you seen on the Nightly News, not many.

When you are a child and have something that is very important to you, and it's constantly going wrong do you tell everybody the truth or do you just sit on it??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-14   7:16:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: CZ82 (#7)

Did you see that list of train incidents from 2000-2009 I posted? Was in the hundreds in just a 10 year period. How many of those have you seen on the Nightly News, not many.

I scanned a Wiki page with global wrecks from 2009-2015, much the same. I didn't see yours.

But the one I mentioned above received very prominent coverage a little over two years ago and also involved engineer carelessness and derailing at 50mph over the limit on a curve. So the comparison seemed apt in my mind.

As for that earlier wreck in 2013, apparently the engineer got off by saying he dozed off suddenly due to apnea or some other crap. A few other bus/train operators have pulled the same to avoid prison.

NYDailyNews: ‘Sleepy driving’ won’t guarantee Metro-North train engineer gets convicted

AFAIK, he was never prosecuted at all. Can't find it via search engine anyway. That bus driver who killed 15 in NYC also got away with it but not the ferry captain who tried a similar defense.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-14   8:16:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: TooConservative (#8)

I scanned a Wiki page with global wrecks from 2009-2015, much the same. I didn't see yours.

My, my, my look at the amount of train issues/incidents/accidents just from 2000-2009, there must be hundreds and some of them were by terrorists too!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2000%E2%80%9309)

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-14   17:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: CZ82 (#9)

Yep. I looked more at the 2010-present page.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-14   17:28:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: TooConservative, redleghunter, Liberator, Willie Green, Pericles (#4)

Then, as now, the Dims were howling for infrastructure spending before the bodies were removed.

Infrastructure spending is kept low on purpose, about 5% or so of the total budget. Some goes for the military and the rest for buying votes from stupid people.

Then when something like this happens the "stupid" public starts howling about the "lack of infrastructure spending". Which "most" of the politicians (Leftards and Faux Conservatives) agree with and use this as a way to spend even more money. Except that it still doesn't go for infrastructure it goes to buy even more votes and used as payback for those who give them campaign contributions.

And the "stupid" people living in the big Leftard Ghettos never catch on to the con.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-14   19:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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