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War in Ukraine Turns on Russia what happened during total solar eclipse Israel Attacks Iran, Report Says - LIVE Breaking News Coverage Earth is Scorched with Heat Antiwar Activists Chant ‘Death to America’ at Event Featuring Chicago Alderman Vibe Shift Status: Not Logged In; Sign In LEFT WING LOONS See other LEFT WING LOONS Articles Title: Fox Hypes Minimal Improper Spending To Demonize Welfare Source: [None] URL Source: [None] Published: May 11, 2015 Author: grandiose demands and HANNAH GROCH-BEGLE Post Date: 2015-05-11 11:19:38 by tpaine Keywords: None Views: 21466 Comments: 55 http://mediamatters.org Fox Hypes Minimal Improper Spending To Demonize Welfare Fox News continued its campaign to demonize welfare benefits, this time hyping improper payments made by a Massachusetts program even though those payments made up only a minimal amount of all benefits paid by the state. On Fox & Friends First, co-host Patti Ann Browne hyped a report that Massachusetts welfare agencies had improperly continued to provide a total of $2.39 million in assistance to 1,164 deceased recipients, calling the figures "ugly." On Fox & Friends, co-host Brian Kilmeade mocked the report, claiming, "More than 2 million dollars. That's the amount of welfare benefits paid out recently to nearly 1200 dead people in Massachusetts. They could not be reached for comment." A http://FoxNews.com article called the audit of the agencies "damning." But according to the audit, improper payments to deceased individuals made up only a tiny amount of total assistance payments made by the state. Massachusetts' Department of Transitional Assistance (DTA) spent more than $1.7 billion in benefits in fiscal year 2012 alone for a variety of financial assistance programs including the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (also known as SNAP, or food stamps) and emergency aid to people with disabilities and children. The audit found only $2.39 million dollars improperly paid to deceased recipients for the entire time period from July 2010 to December 2012. Furthermore, the audit found that Massachusetts has already taken steps to reduce the small number of improper payments in these programs, and according to the official press release, the auditor was "encouraged" by DTA's actions. Fox News has a history of attacking programs for Americans in need. Fox News hosts have tied government assistance programs to the terror attacks committed at the Boston Marathon, mocked food stamps as a diet plan, claimed all individuals who receive government disability benefits are faking their disabilities, and even asked whether children should have to work in exchange for free school meals. Notice anything wrong? Send Silk feedback Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread   Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 33. #7. To: tpaine, SNAP, welfare payments (#0) This is a pro welfare article. They're crying because governor Romney's dead illegal aliens aren't receiving their gov checks. Hondo68  posted on  2015-05-11   12:11:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #9. To: hondo68, grandisland (#7) This is a pro welfare article. I figured this site is where grandisland picked up his 'demonizing welfare' bullshit. tpaine  posted on  2015-05-11   12:19:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #20. To: tpaine (#9) I figured this site is where grandisland picked up his 'demonizing welfare' bullshit. You're so full of garbage... you posted this to give welfare a secret plug... You are as libtard as they come. No shame, you and every agenda poster here is s closet libtard. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-11   16:30:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #25. To: GrandIsland, claims we're all 'closet libtards' (#20) I figured this site is where grandisland picked up his 'demonizing welfare' bullshit. This is a slanted bias libtard advertisement for more welfare. --- You're so full of garbage... you posted this to give welfare a secret plug... You are as libtard as they come. I posted it to make you look like the fool you are... No shame, you and every agenda poster here is s closet libtard. You're demented... tpaine  posted on  2015-05-11   17:05:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #28. To: tpaine (#25) I posted it to make you look like the fool you are... Bullshit. You posted it to sell welfare... and disguise the post as something different. 15 years and you've been afraid to praise welfare for fear you'd be exposed as a libtard, so you and the others do the next best thing.... Not say a word about it... AND THEN you get an awesome opportunity to actually praise welfare... and you do, all while still trying to Mask what you are. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-11   18:39:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #30. To: GrandIsland (#28) When people are still mostly down on the farm, welfare is not so much needed. In time of drought, maybe. But if life in the town or city becomes hard, people can mostly go back home to the farm and work, eat, spin their own clothes, hunt…start over. But once people move en masse into the cities and sell the farm, then things are different. They're much poorer, though they FEEL richer. They have more liquid money, but they don't have the "security capital" of the farm and the ability to feed themselves through sunshine, rain, seeds and labor. In good times, the "townies" have more than the folks back on the farm, but in bad times, city dwellers with basic jobs and no farm to go home too are poorer than the rural poor, for they have no roof of their own and no way to feed themselves. Industrialization concentrates millions of formerly rural poor into the cities, where they become the proletarian. They FEEL wealthier, and certainly have more cheap material goods and entertainment, but their lives are much more precarious. As long as parents and grandparents or uncles still have the farm out in the outback, there's an escape hatch. But after a couple of generations, that's gone, and there's nothing left but worker's wages, and they're never enough, in the inflating city, to get any sort of permanent security. The proletariat is born, and when times become hard, they crash and suffer. They can't go home, and they won't sit and starve. So they revolt. That's WHY the French, British and American Revolutions, in their day, were contained within the bounds of reason. The British version was tied up with religious excess (the Irish bore the brunt of the Roundheads' fury after the King was killed). The French version got out of control for a little while in Paris, which was a massive city by the standards of those days. But the countryside was still there, and the worst periods of excess were over with in a year as the essentially conservative nature of an essentially rural people reasserted itself. All told, only about 10,000 people actually died in the French Terror, and Robespierre himself and his cohorts were guillotined before two years ran, and it was over. France's Revolution was the harbinger of bad things to come in urban societies, but it stopped short and became, in essence, a conservative, militarist revolution as opposed to a wild red Communist nightmare. Fast forward a century, though, to Mexico, and Russia, and China and Cambodia, countries with vast urban centers that dwarfed 18th Century Paris or anything that was in America or England at the time of their respective revolutions, and the effects of social breakdown are seen. Proletarians don't meekly starve. The rebel, as Marx hoped. They rebel and they destroy and kill. Robespierre was overborne by a "country party", much superior in numbers, which was hardheaded and practical, but which was incensed by things like guillotining clergy, or drowning peasants and the like. The country brought the city to heel in France. In England, the son of the decapitated king was restored and ruled. America was mostly country, making America's revolution particularly conservative (from a "country party" viewpoint) - essentially, the American landed gentry and yeomanry threw off the City of London and its bankers and insurers. But come the 20th Century, and the country was dwarfed by the millions of struggling and desperate people in the cities. Revolution was in the air everywhere, and every industrialized country either adopted a public welfare and social security system, or had a bloody revolution that imposed one. Nobody held the line, because that was impossible. The nature of capitalism is boom and bust. When the busts come, as they must, unemployment comes. People on the farm tighten their belts and grow food. Urban proletarians starve and are evicted, and swell into a sulfurous mass and explode like gunpowder, if not fed and housed. Social Welfare, by the government (as on that scale taxes are required to pay for it) exceeds charity. It isn't charity, it is part of the necessary infrastructure of an urban industrialized and post-industrialized society. It's not OPTIONAL, unless one wishes to "opt" for bloody revolutions and the killing fields. The society that is unwilling to accept FDR gets Hitler, Stalin, Mao or Pol Pot. Take you pick. There's a segment of the population - call them libertarians and hard right Republicans, who steadfastly refuse to admit any of that. They never gain power, or if they do, they never hold it, because their ideas are fanciful. Modern industrialized, urban society cannot operate under the norms of the agricultural 18th Century. It's impossible. No people in the world will accept it for very long. You either get peaceful social democracy or you get a revolution. The libertarians and hard right will never accept that. And they'll never have power anywhere for very long either, because trying to operate a modern urban society without social welfare is like trying to drink sea water. It sure would make things easier if we could. But we can't. And no amount of wishful thinking or asserting "the power of prayer", or anything else, is going to change that reality. Unfortunately, trying to talk the fantasists out of their ivory tower is never a winning exercise. You just get boiling oil poured on you and arrows shot into you head. That's why society doesn't really ENGAGE with the ideas of the libertarians or the far right, but instead just sort of ring-fences them. To my credit, I try to talk to these folks. I try to make them see, to talk them off the ledge. If they would accept reality as it is, there is PLENTY that could be done to better protect individual liberty and basic property rights within the structure of a social welfare state. Certainly we could have a more just tax system, less corrupt government, and probably even allow laxness in certain areas of civil liberties that we currently do not. But the price of all of that political reform is political control, and that means numbers. And the fact is that 85% of the population "gets it" that we can't just scotch Social Security, Medicare and Welfare. Ever. If the 15% who don't currently accept that reality could be talked down off the ledge, they form a substantial mass that could tip the scales of the political balance quite decisively in the direction of greater liberty WITHIN a social welfare state. But holding out for the end of the Social Welfare state is really just like the hard right Europeans who hold out for the restoration of the old monarchies. There's a Royalist Party in France. They're very sincere…like museum pieces of a time that is gone and that cannot be raised from the dead. If they put their considerable educations (and WEALTH! Sacre Bleu is there still a lot of wealth in the old families!) into building a different political order, European states could be much better governed. But by holding out for fantasy, they leave possession of the field to the crooks. Same thing in America. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-11   19:53:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   #33. To: Vicomte13 (#30) (Edited) When people are still mostly down on the farm, welfare is not so much needed. In time of drought, maybe. But if life in the town or city becomes hard, people can mostly go back home to the farm and work, eat, spin their own clothes, hunt…start over. We are a little past your Little House on the Prairie dream. Millions Upon millions of sheep depend on the government to survive in the urban jungles called cities. They can't even spell F A R M. The greatest threat you have towards your Liberty isn't the police... it's the governments ability to manufacture SHEEPLE... and your peers eagerness to accept that lifestyle. It's what is causing your police forces to get bigger.... lazy, drug addicted, dependent Sheeple that can't survive without the police, DSS or some other government agency to instantly fix their dysfunctional problems that they've created all their lives. GrandIsland  posted on  2015-05-11   20:15:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   Replies to Comment # 33. #34. To: GrandIsland (#33) Actually, the greatest threat is sexual license. The problem with sexual license is that it rots the society out utterly. Children are bent young, and stay bent. Unable to form lasting, permanent relationships, they drift from casual pleasure to casual pleasure, age, don't marry, don't have children…and don't have the social support that family offers. To support the free sex lifestyle, women become murderers of their own children, thereby ruining their mental stability for the rest of their lives, and defending it. A significant portion do marry, and half divorce, leaving children damaged and as crazy as the parents. Contraception drives down the birth rate. And at the end of the day, the population goes into a demographic death spiral, where it's been for quite some time. Nature abhors a vacuum. People enter to fill it. They have, they are, they will. Bienvenidos a Los Estados Unidos Norte Americanos. And that's all she wrote. Vicomte13  posted on  2015-05-11 20:25:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply   End Trace Mode for Comment # 33. Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest

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