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Title: Ballmer at War
Source: Fred on Everything
URL Source: http://www.fredoneverything.net/Ballmer.shtml
Published: May 5, 2015
Author: Fred Reed
Post Date: 2015-05-09 14:23:11 by Dead Culture Watch
Keywords: Whitey must die, Perfect World, BRA
Views: 10809
Comments: 39

As a certified member of the curmudgeon's tribe, practicing our dismal and lonely trade, I am delighted by the events in Baltimore. Among curmudgeons, almost our only joy is the gratification of confirmation of our dark expectionions of humanity. In the case of Ballmer, a particular source of somber joy is the gap separating the Talking-Heads Chorale and reality. Wanton foolishness is ever a curmudgeonly delight.

The Talking-Heads Chorale will see the riots, are seeing the riots, not as an intensification of the undeclared racial war, but as a protest against racist police or the racism of whites. Oh, quite. Never mind that Ballmer’s black government sets standards for the hiring, training, and behavior of its police, and half of the accused cops are black. But the conduct of their police cannot be the fault of blacks, because nothing is.

Feral white women, characterized by low IQ and poor impulse-control, try to steal a black man's purse. Note chair--a white chair-- in upper left. It is a White Supremacist chair, and feels itself to be above blacks in Baltimore.

Ominous for the future, though, is the solidarity of blacks in favor of the looters and arsonists. Our black president Obama, protecting his people, attributes the riots to racism and Republicans. Black leaders, e.g. Al Sharpton, see the villainy of whites as the cause. (I am inclined to agree that the riots involved racism, considering that black rioters reportedly burned chiefly Asian businesses.) The city’s black mayor first said “give them space” to loot. Later she told the police to stand down and let the rioters loot and burn. She has the intelligence of a raisin, but she knows whose side she is on. She isn’t alone. Supportive riots and attacks on whites, e.g. in Charleston have occurred.

The fundamentally racial attitudes of blacks from Obama down appear in the one-sided approach to racial violence. Our black president and black attorney general express sympathy for any black who runs afoul of the police, but none at all for the victims of the unending, undeniable, multitudinous, vicious racial attacks on whites by blacks: The Knockout Game. Obama and Holder cannot possibly be unaware of these attacks. Obama and his tribe are not neutral.

The Chorale says that the Knockout Game is a “myth,” but it demonstrably is not. For any who have the slightest doubt, I recommend Colin Flaherty’s latest, Don't Make the Black Kids Angry, documenting, in Kindle format with countless clickable links to original sources, attacks on whites. “Low-intensity race war” is not wild exaggeration, and summer comes.

Several effects will follow on the riots. First, whites will buy guns when they realize that it can happen to them, that a howling mob desirous of kicking them to death and burning their homes really can appear at any moment. Fear of blacks is a major, major sub-text in debate of the Second Amendment. We must not say it, though.The Chorale, safe in high-rise condos with security desks, will call the buyers Gun Nuts and say that they are over-reacting. There is nothing like a complete misunderstanding of motivations to make for good journalism.

Second, whites will sensibly move out of Ballmer, leaving it blacker and poorer and of less interest to anyone but its black residents. The Chorale will sing of White Flight and Abandonment, instead of common sense and self-preservation. (Note that when whites move into a black city, blacks complain of colonization, and when they move out, of abandonment. It’s like a toggle switch.)

Third, burned-out business will not return to be burned again. The city will thus have fewer jobs, fewer amenities, and no pharmacy, as they sacked and torched their CVS outlet. The Chorale will attribute this withdrawal to racism, slavery, oppression, White Privilege, and microaggressions. What else could account for not wanting one’s store burned?

In particular, blacks, having burned their pharmacy, will complain that it isn’t there. They will not see a connection between its burning it and its not-thereness. The Chorale will not see in this behavior low intelligence, short time-horizons, and inability to control impulses or to foresee consequences. No. It is the ineradicable racism of whites that makes a burned pharmacy not be there.

Two hundred businesses destroyed in Baltimore: Breitbart: . This makes sense. When something happens that I don't like, I usually go to the local Walmart, steal everything I can carry, and then burn the store. Don't you? What is really comic though is from Larry Hogan, the governor of Maryland: It “will take a little while to get back to normal, but let’s get people back to normal, get people back in the city to visit devastated shops.” Since many of those shps didn't have barbaric-population insurance, they will not reopn, and if they do, it won't be in black Ballmer.Which is what the city deserve.

It is the weird emotionalism and what appears to be utter brainlessness that grabs attention. Let us assume that, as may be the case, the police (hired and trained by a black government) did indeed do the things of which they are accused. This might reasonably explain attacks on the police. How does it explain burning a pharmacy? Or businesses that had nothing to do with the police? The phrase “thieving moronic savages” would not be politically correct and so, hewing as I do to the standards of society, I won’t use it. It may flash across my mind, though.

What we see, methinks, is a hunter-gatherer society, in which blacks hunt whites and gather expensive tennis shoes. In the absence of yams and kudus, this I suppose is understandable. Gather ye yams while ye may….

Where does this lead? The Chorale will speak in unison, with the rhythmic thump-thump-thump of a migraine, of White Privilege, Jim Crow, racism, institutional racism, White Supremacy, and so on. (Funny: I do not think I have ever met a White Supremacist. I have met a very great many white people who want to be allowed to live where they want with whom they want, among people who share their values and do not engage in crime, looting, arson, and the Knockoutt Game.)

What we have are irreconcilably different peoples. The looting classes are not going to turn into whites, not going to become academically diligent, speak normal English, give up crime and illegitimacy. If they were going to, they would have. There is no sign of change, and no sign that there ever will be change. We have what we are going to have. And yes, as many will point out, there are large numbers of blacks, indeed most blacks, who do not do these disagrteeable things. But that has been true of every city which has ever rioted, and it did not prevent the riots.

Not too brightly, the rioters seem to be looking for a race war. The Black Panthers say that they are “willing to kill.” We hear “No justice, no peace.” Calls resound to kill the police, to kill whites. This is not smart, considering that whites and Hispanics, who do not like blacks, vastly outnumber them, and out-gun them, and food does not come from burned-out Safeways but from distant farms owned by whites. But they are used to being allowed to burn and lootl as they think interesting. They seem to have little idea of the future, and what will happen if the Chorale loses its grip and whites say, as many privately do, “Let’s get it on.”

If you find this warlike behavior inexplicable, remember that the rioters live in a head-space entirely different from that of people who read on-line columns. Most can’t read, or barely can and so don’t. Most probably can’t spell “slavery,” don’t know the dates of the Civil War, and have only the pathetic and distorted notions of history that the Chorale allows them to be taught. Nothing can be done about this. We have what we are going to have.

So what to do? Separate the races. Stop trying to push together peoples that have nothing in common. End “Fair” Housing Laws. Write laws that encourage whites to get out of Dodge. Let black suburbs be black by their own choice, and white, white. Allow historically-white colleges to be white if they choose. Let white regions escape what they do not want, and let blacks have what they do want. In particular, if blacks have only black police forces, and whites have white (conservation of parity) then greater racial peace will follow.

This is not an ideal solution, there being no ideal solution. It is obvious that blacks, or at least the urban underclass, cannot on average support themselves in a modern technological civilization. We are not supposed to say this but, I suspect, most of us know it. Fine. Keep the welfare flowing. Regard it as equivalent to a golf handicap. (The other day I saw that some city is going to make both breakfast and lunch free in schools. This is better than letting them go hungry. It is also a step toward an undisguised custodial state.) But if the riots go on, and spread more widely as they seem likely to do, and the attacks on whites coninte, the danger is that one day whites will shoot back. The country would never recover.


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#1. To: Willie Green (#0)

Thoughts?

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-09   14:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Dead Culture Watch, A K A Stone (#0)

In particular, blacks, having burned their pharmacy, will complain that it isn’t there. They will not see a connection between its burning it and its not-thereness.
. . .
This makes sense. When something happens that I don't like, I usually go to the local Walmart, steal everything I can carry, and then burn the store. Don't you?

That's pretty funny stuff.

Tooconservative  posted on  2015-05-09   20:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: TooConservative (#2)

Fred writes some hilarious columns in his blog.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-09   21:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Dead Culture Watch (#0)

Moderately brilliant...

rlk  posted on  2015-05-10   0:31:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Dead Culture Watch (#1)

Thoughts?

It's unsurprising that a bigot would view it from a bigot's perspective...
More astute commentators noticed that the decline of blue collar job opportunities for residents of these neighborhoods is a major factor in the social unrest.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   9:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Willie Green (#5)

Ya, he's just like Archie Bunker, complete with a Mexican wife, oh, wait....

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-10   10:28:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dead Culture Watch (#0)

Second, whites will sensibly move out of Ballmer, leaving it blacker and poorer and of less interest to anyone but its black residents.

De-Troit be de sea.

What we have are irreconcilably different peoples. The looting classes are not going to turn into whites, not going to become academically diligent, speak normal English, give up crime and illegitimacy. If they were going to, they would have. There is no sign of change, and no sign that there ever will be change. We have what we are going to have.

And there you have it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-10   10:40:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rlk (#4) (Edited)

Moderately brilliant...

Ever consider pulling that stick out of your ass,Robert?

Try it. You will find the world to be a better place.

Yeah,I wish I had written it too,but I didn't.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-10   10:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Willie Green (#5)

More astute commentators noticed that the decline of blue collar job opportunities for residents of these neighborhoods is a major factor in the social unrest.

You're kidding,right?

You can't possibly be ignorant of the fact that there are 3 or more generations of ghetto rats now who have never had a job,and who have no intention of ever getting one.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-10   10:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: sneakypete (#9)

You're kidding,right?

No pete. I'm dead serious.
If you expect people to support themselves & their families, then the job opportunities have to be there. And they can't just be low-wage/no-benefit jobs flippin' burgers at Mickey D's. People can't support themselves on wages that are part-time jobs for teenagers. They need real jobs with real benefits. "Trickle down" doesn't work worth shit when BOTH the GOP AND the stinking Democraps keep undermining American wages and benefits with self-destructive trade & immigration policies.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   11:03:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Dead Culture Watch (#6)

Ya, he's just like Archie Bunker, complete with a Mexican wife, oh, wait....

A Mexican "wife" is probably less expensive than ordering one on the Internet.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   11:30:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Willie Green (#10) (Edited)

If you expect people to support themselves & their families,

Willie,you are obviously overlooking the point that the left doesn't even WANT them supporting themselves,never mind expecting them to support themselves.

The left made permanent slaves out of a larg percentage of the black population and a considerable chuck on the poor white trash population by making welfare in all it's various forms pay out more money than the typical factory worker could make working a 40 hour week.

Why would anyone expect them to stay sober,get up early every day and go to work,when they get paid more for just sitting on their asses in their free housing eating their free food and talking on their free cell phones?

The real criminals in this are the black preachers and other so-called "community leaders" that are more like the Jews that helped the Nazi's work the death camps than they are actual leaders.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-10   11:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Willie Green (#10)

You are totally correct about how the political class has sold out Americans, that doesn't explain the degree of disfunction on display in the inner city.

Also, in ANY job, there is room for advancement if one applies themselves, there really is no such thing as a dead end job.

I work with hundreds of blue collar workers each week, in the one big project going on, in construction, I have seen ONE black on the jobsite. Am sure you will blame racism, not a lack of interest in actually learning a well paying trade.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-10   12:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: sneakypete (#12)

Willie,you are obviously overlooking the point that the left doesn't even WANT them supporting themselves,never mind expecting them to support themselves.

All the more reason for conservatives to shun the right-wing bigots and Transnational Business "libertarians" who have abandoned our nation's blue collar workforce.

The idiot Tea Partiers are hellbent obsessessed with crapping on Reagan's Blue Collar Democrats, and they're gonna tank the whole goddam nation in the process. America the Banana Republic... whooptie-dooo...
Thank-God I probably don't have too many years left to have to endure this crap.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   12:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Dead Culture Watch (#13)

Also, in ANY job, there is room for advancement if one applies themselves, there really is no such thing as a dead end job.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   12:50:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Willie Green (#14)

The idiot Tea Partiers

Name a position held by most of the membership of the so called tea party you disagree with.

You seem brainwashed, but like most, no soap was used.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-10   13:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Willie Green (#14)

All the more reason for conservatives to shun the right-wing bigots and Transnational Business "libertarians" who have abandoned our nation's blue collar workforce.

A common mistake,but they ain't "right-wingers" OR "conservatives",Willie.

What they are is freaking Nazi's because globalization is nothing but world-wide fascism,and fascism is a LEFT-WING political movement.

Just think,we were all taught in school that the Nazi's actually lost WW-2. The realization that they actually won came as a recent shock to me.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-10   15:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Dead Culture Watch, Willie Green (#13)

Also, in ANY job, there is room for advancement if one applies themselves, there really is no such thing as a dead end job.

Very true! Bosses in every employment field are always looking for workers that are self-starters that can be relied on they can promote to higher positions.

The problem today is a generational one of perception. Those of us raised in the 1950's and earlier were raised to believe we would all start out at the bottom and work our way up. The kids raised since the 60's were taught they would start at the top and never have to do any actual work.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-10   15:32:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dead Culture Watch (#16)

Name a position held by most of the membership of the so called tea party you disagree with.

The boneheads are hellbent on underminiing high-speed passenger rail despite demonstrable growth in market demand.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   16:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: sneakypete (#17)

What they are is freaking Nazi's because globalization is nothing but world-wide fascism,and fascism is a LEFT-WING political movement.

You're wasting your breathe he doesn't believe that or cares for that matter.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-10   17:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: CZ82, , sneakypete (#20)

You're wasting your breathe he doesn't believe that or cares for that matter.

Ted Cruz sucks Chinese donkey-dick.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   17:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Willie Green (#19)

The boneheads are hellbent on underminiing high-speed passenger rail despite demonstrable growth in market demand.

Anyone with any sort of common sense knows it's not cost effective.

All this growth of demand you speak about is due to more and more people being economically illiterate.

So, what to you is a negative, is to beings with more than fight or flight intelligence, a sign of linear thinking.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-10   17:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Dead Culture Watch (#22)

Anyone with any sort of common sense knows it's not cost effective.

Baloney.
Private rail operators in Great Britain, such as South West Transport and Virgin Rail, compete for franchise intercity rail service contracts and regularly generate a profit. Rail routes in Japan and France turn a profit."

The GOP/Tea Party is opposed to high-speed passenger rail because it IS more efficient that other methods of regional transportation, and lobbyists for those groups don't want REAL competition undermining their easy profits.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-10   18:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Willie Green (#23)

Great Britain

Ahh, I see the source of what confounds you.

Willie, this isn't Great Britain.

Dead Culture Watch  posted on  2015-05-10   18:22:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Willie Green (#23)

Private rail operators in Great Britain, such as South West Transport and Virgin Rail, compete for franchise intercity rail service contracts and regularly generate a profit.

Yeah,and those "profits" come from government subsidies or tax breaks.

Fred,passenger travel by train has never been profitable. It it were,the railroad czars in America would have never given up on it and dedicated their railroads to cargo carry.

Hell,they weren't evern profitable back in the 1800's,when it took months to travel by horseback from one side of the country to the other. The government had to subsidize passenger travel then,just like they do with AmTrack today.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-11   4:59:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Willie Green (#21)

What politician doesn't?

Oh let me guess the ones you vote for?

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-11   6:50:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: sneakypete, Willie Green (#25)

Fred,passenger travel by train has never been profitable. It it were,the railroad czars in America would have never given up on it and dedicated their railroads to cargo carry.

When I moved to my new house in 1971 there used to be 2 sets of train tracks within a 1/4 mile of it, one was for passengers and the other for freight. Within a few years the passenger trains quit running and a few years later the freight trains quit running, it is that way throughout the whole state.

Well what they did was rip up all of the old tracks, graded down and compacted the old roadbeds and blacktopped them. Do you know what this created it's called Ohio Bikeways, it's a network of bicycle paths that criss cross the state. That way people wanting to ride bikes, jog, walk their dogs (or whatever form of exercise they want to pursue) have a place to go and not worry about being run over by "blue hairs", nigg&*s, and any other idiots (Leftards) who have a drivers license. The created something nice from the remains of something useless, and I use it year round to ride, run and/or exercise my boxers.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-11   7:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: sneakypete (#25)

It it were,the railroad czars in America would have never given up on it and dedicated their railroads to cargo carry.

Bullshit, pete.
The ONLY reason that the "railroad czars" in America were FORCED to discontinue passenger service was because of MASSIVE post-WWII subsidies of the automotive & airlined industries with construction of the Interstate Highway System and countless Municipal Airports.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-11   9:03:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Willie Green (#28)

The ONLY reason that the "railroad czars" in America were FORCED to discontinue passenger service was because of MASSIVE post-WWII subsidies of the automotive & airlined industries with construction of the Interstate Highway System and countless Municipal Airports.

Isn't that a polite way of saying they were no longer viable as technology made them impractical and obsolete?

Nobody FORCED them to stop carrying passengers but the passengers themselves who quit buying tickets because there were cheaper and/or more practical ways to get to where they were going in the time frame they wanted to get there.

What you are claiming is the equivalent of saying that people were FORCED to abandon wagons pulled by oxen because the railroads were subsidized by the government. Which they were,but it would be more correct to say the railroad barons bought our ruling political class just like the international bankers are buying them today.

Local trains ran between cities and suburbs might work for the commuting classes,but that's about it. Even then they would have to be heavily subsidized by the taxpayers.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-11   13:58:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: sneakypete (#29)

What you are claiming is the equivalent of saying that people were FORCED to abandon wagons pulled by oxen because the railroads were subsidized by the government. Which they were, but...

Good. I'm glad you agree with me.

Local trains ran between cities and suburbs might work for the commuting classes,but that's about it. Even then they would have to be heavily subsidized by the taxpayers.

OK, then subsidize the railways just as heavily as we subsidize the highways, airways & waterways... I have no problem with that.
Congress needs to quit shortchanging Commuter Mass Transit & High Speed Passenger Rail and give those technologies their FAIR SHARE of the transportation subsidies.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-11   15:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Willie Green (#30)

OK, then subsidize the railways just as heavily as we subsidize the highways, airways & waterways..

Why? Not only do more people use highways,airways,and waterways,but your thinking is equivalent to someone saying "I had the dentist pull a infected tooth,and told him that as long as he was in there,to go ahead and pull a couple more."

Willie,BAD things,like businesses that can't stay afloat without welfare,should be eliminated,not given company.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-11   15:38:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: sneakypete (#31)

Why? Not only do more people use highways,airways,and waterways,

Because for the "commuting classes," traveling by high speed passenger rail & mass transit is MUCH FASTER than getting stuck in rush hour traffic jams. And then the "commuting classes" will arrive at work relaxed and refreshed and not suffering road rage from the dumbass jerk in the rearview mirror who was leaning on his horn trying to get you to run the red light and get T-boned at the intersection 'cause he was late for work. And then they can get more work done and be more productive.

THAT's why.

And Airplanes are only good for long distance because the terrorists blow them up. THAT's why too.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-11   15:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Willie Green (#32) (Edited)

Because for the "commuting classes," traveling by high speed passenger rail & mass transit is MUCH FASTER than getting stuck in rush hour traffic jams.

Ok,those are urban trains for big city denizens. They ain't national rail systems.

And Airplanes are only good for long distance

Which makes them better for travel that trains,and which is what I said.

because the terrorists blow them up. THAT's why too.

Terrorists don't blow them up in this country because we have few passenger trains and fewer terrorists.

They did blow one up in France several years ago,though.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-12   2:09:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: sneakypete (#31)

Willie, BAD things,like businesses that can't stay afloat without welfare,should be eliminated,not given company.

But that would eliminate part of the money laundering scheme the politicians he votes for have in place.

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-12   6:30:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: sneakypete, Willie Green (#33)

Terrorists don't blow them up in this country because we have few passenger trains and fewer terrorists.

They did blow one up in France several years ago,though.

My, my, my look at the amount of train issues/incidents/accidents just from 2000-2009, there must be hundreds and some of them were by terrorists too!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(2000%E2%80%9309)

Kinda makes you wonder just exactly how many there have been since trains were invented??

“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

CZ82  posted on  2015-05-12   6:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: sneakypete (#33)

Ok,those are urban trains for big city denizens. They ain't national rail systems.
And Airplanes are only good for long distance
Which makes them better for travel that trains,and which is what I said.


Long distance for airplanes is 500 miles or more.
But there are plenty of regions where major cities are less than 500 miles apart. Houston to Dallas or San Antonio or New Orleans.... Atlanta to Jacksonville, Nashville, Charlotte or New Orleans. Los Angeles to San Francisco, San Diego, Phoenix or Las Vegas. Chicago to Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Kansas City, St Louis, Louisville, Nashville, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh...
And a LOT more less than 500 miles apart (if I wanted to take the time to name them) that would be better with high speed rail than inefficient, short-hop puddle-jumper airlines.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-12   9:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Willie Green (#36)

But there are plenty of regions where major cities are less than 500 miles apart. Houston to Dallas or San Antonio or New Orleans.... Atlanta to Jacksonville, Nashville, Charlotte or New Orleans. Los Angeles to San Francisco, San Diego, Phoenix or Las Vegas. Chicago to Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Kansas City, St Louis, Louisville, Nashville, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh... And a LOT more less than 500 miles apart

Yeah,and how many people commute 500 miles to work and back each day?

You are flogging a dead horse. If it were enough people wanting to do it to make it profitable,someone would be doing it.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-12   10:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: sneakypete (#37)

Yeah,and how many people commute 500 miles to work and back each day?

Whatever the number, it would undoubtably increase as faster/more efficient transportation became available.

We live in a fast-paced mobile society, pete.
We need high-speed rail to remain competitive in the 21st Century global economy.
Being stuck in highway rush hour or in airport security ain't gonna cut the mustard.

Willie Green  posted on  2015-05-12   10:33:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Willie Green (#38)

Whatever the number, it would undoubtably increase as faster/more efficient transportation became available.

Yeah,get back with me on that one when Star Trek "teleporters" go on sale at Wal-Mart.

We need high-speed rail to remain competitive in the 21st Century global economy.

Only for the transport of goods to central shipping points.

Willie,with the new thing called "the internet",fewer and fewer people even have to leave home to do their work,never mind travel hundreds or thousands of miles for a conference. They can accomplish just as much while staying at home,and don't have all those dead unproductive hours and expenses to deal with.

Why is democracy held in such high esteem when it’s the enemy of the minority and makes all rights relative to the dictates of the majority? (Ron Paul,2012)

sneakypete  posted on  2015-05-12   14:23:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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